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Game Denialism Here? Selection vs. Game
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Game Denialism Here? Selection vs. Game

Quote: (03-01-2012 02:55 PM)kimleebj Wrote:  

Roosh's essay, "Everything I Know about Women" advocates fitness, reading, and travelling to improve your love life. Isn't this just his mother's game-denialist advice to "be yourself"? It is a real contrast to his alpha/beta video.

Similarly, I asked how to improve dud dates, and most of the responses emphasized selecting more eager companions.
How to Manage Dud Dates

I thought the whole point of game was to stimulate interest. There are plenty of guys like me who were educated, travelled, and in-shape. We got rejected wearing pleated khakis, tucked-in polo shirts, and obsequious smiles.

I have even seen Neil Strauss criticized because he levered his rock journalism connections. But remember - he felt like a lowly ink-stained wretch among the cool musicians, and could not capitalize on this for years. That is probably the biggest proof of game - all the rich, fit nerds who get nothing.

Maybe we should discuss the relative importance of screening women for interest versus gaming the marginally interested ones.

Kim, I think you still sort of have a novice mindset. Tyler Durden in the Blueprint has an excellent analysis of this actually. I forget the exact words he uses, but it revolves around being internally and externally focused. A man who is internally focused believes that any good or bad outcome is due to his efforts. A man with an external locus of control attributes his outcomes to things beyond his control.

Mainstream wisdom is that romance is entirely out of your control. "Be yourself." "Chemistry." "Fate." The 'seduction industry' tends towards the opposite, that it's completely under your control, and the fault lies entirely with you. The problem with being 100% external is that you think there's nothing you can do to improve. If you're 100% internal, you get weird, awkward, you overthink everything, and then you blame yourself when you aren't the cause.

The optimal mindset is a bit of both. Identify where you can improve, but understand that your failures may sometimes be beyond your control. For instance, if a date doesn't go well for me, I will try to identify things I could have done better that might have made me more likely to succeed. But overall, I probably just feel like the bitch sucked. If she was cool, we'd be going on another date.

There are so many things in this game that are out of your control, that you can't blame it all on yourself.

Edit: To add, the proper mindset as Roosh has written is to not care about any single girl, but to try and continually make yourself attractive to women as a group, and your niche of women in particular.

I sincerely believe that if a girl doesn't like me, it's because she just doesn't know me well enough. Or she sucks as a person. I've occasionally disclosed this belief to women, and they find it hilarious...
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