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(08-21-2017 04:06 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

BTW, nobody has really hit the nail totally on the head here.

It would have been a hell of a lot easier for him to keep it in his pants had he married an 8+ in the looks department.

Are you kidding? Joss's inability to keep it in his pants has next to nothing to do with the way his wife looks. By way of analogy, Tiger Woods had this on tap (or at least 25 days out of the month):



and still notched up a good 10 others on the side. Some of whom were thrashed-out porn stars, for Christ's sake.

It is a combination of availability and Whedon being a narcissist with neither a moral centre nor an identity. Remember, Whedon didn't go with one night stands, he pursued relationships with his side orders. Whedon's problem isn't that he needs to bang 8s, his problem is the same as Tiger Woods: he doesn't believe the women actually like him for who he is, which is understandable because Whedon doesn't have a fucking clue who he is either.

Last Psychiatrist again, this time with me swapping out Tiger Woods for Our Latest Contestant.

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Question: why would any of these women sleep with Joss Whedon?

"Well, because he's JossWhedon. Maybe they do it for the story, for their ego; maybe they do it because they think he might give them gifts or money; maybe they think he might marry them..."

So it couldn't possibly be because they like him? That had they not known about his fame and money, they still would have gone to bed with him?

"Of course not. Not those girls."

I see. Do you think he doesn't know that?

II.

Assume Joss was not married. Describe the woman you think would love him "for him." For whom Joss's fame and wealth plays no part at all, who would have loved him even if he was a shoe salesman. Which modeling agency would she have been with? Oh.

Would Kai Cole have married him if he was just Joss Whedon, not JossWhedon?

What do you think Joss Whedon thinks?

III.

Would these women have slept with him if he was half as rich and half as famous? How about 1/4? At what point would he have been insufficiently rich or famous for them?

Yet it is entirely safe to assume these women have slept with other men who were neither famous nor rich. So why did Joss have to be JossWhedon to get them?

Do you think Joss Whedon doesn't wonder this?

Stop reading here. You should go get a glass of water. Take a nap, watch a music video, there's a catchy one I quite like by Akon/David Guetta. Come back when you've thought this through.

IV.

It may, or may not, be true that these women are golddiggers, "whores", or only interested in him because he is famous; but it is absolutely a fact that these women could be seduced by a man who isn't famous or rich.

The reason this is absolutely, incontrovertibly a fact is that these women are human beings. They have the same general needs-- love, lust, attractions, loneliness, childhood dramas... Different things make them happy, in different ways.

Joss Whedon does not seem to know this. He seems to think what every guy has at least once said: "she only wants a [adj] guy..."

Taken to the inevitable conclusion, Joss Whedon needed to be a Hollywood producer in order to think a woman would really want him. In order to get those women, he [thought] had to be JossWhedon, not Joss Whedon.

This means that no matter who/how many women he sleeps with, he will never be satisfied, because he has tricked them. He wants them to like him, but he knows they only like JossWhedon. That would be okay if he was just after the sex, he'd have a one night stand and disappear; but instead, he tries to forge loose relationships that are based on him pretending to be his image. This always fails.

The question isn't how he could have cheated with ten women; the question is how he managed to keep it under 100.

Va.

"But if I say I'm a doctor, she'll want to sleep with me." No, that only works on patients.

Vb.

No, I'm not kidding. I'm not saying she has to be your patient...


VI.

"As a woman, what I want to know is why he would ruin what looks like a perfect marriage to a beautiful woman, he has two kids with her... why would he risk all that on cocktail waitresses, no matter how attractive they are?"

Oddly, no man ever asks this question. It's not because he knows the answer: he doesn't. "Well, if I was JossWhedon, I'd probably do the same thing." That's interesting, you didn't say you'd do the same, you said you'd do the same if you were JossWhedon. "No, I mean in the same situation as him." You mean the one in which you're a Hollywood mogul with a million bucks married to a mother figure? Or do you mean if you were just a regular guy?

"But it wouldn't happen to me if I was a regular guy, it would only happen to someone like JossWhedon."

That is exactly what Joss Whedon thinks, too.

From Joss himself, coming up in his very own sidebar when you Google him:

Remember to always be yourself. Unless you suck.

Loneliness is about the scariest thing out there.

And from the article, assuming we are quoting Joss verbatim:

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“When I was running ‘Buffy,’ I was surrounded by beautiful, needy, aggressive young women. It felt like I had a disease, like something from a Greek myth.

Leaving aside the externalisation, this characterisation of these women is potent evidence he believed these women didn't like him for who he was; they liked him because he was JossWhedon, producer of a TV series. He even admits it himself: he had two lives. One was Joss Whedon, the guy married to his wife, and slowly wasting away, and the other was JossWhedon, the guy who was having intense short relationships all the time (because that's the only guy all the fillies would fuck.) Whedon cannot even use the "I got tired of my childhood sweetheart" excuse: he was already established in the writing industry and had just written the film version of Buffy when he first met Kai Cole, and they married in 1996, just after Toy Story had blown up and got him an Oscar nomination.

This is the hilarious part about his "feminist" past: if it was genuine, he had even less reason to think they liked him for him. He would have been browbeaten into believing all women have complete agency and decide entirely for themselves whether they're going to fuck a guy or not. That is, that women can be as transactional about sex as men can be. He would have put himself inside a woman's head and asked himself: given a woman has agency, why on Earth are these hot, options-heavy fillies coming on to me?

Oh. Because I'm JossWhedon. So in order to have a heady, sexy relationship -- like it was with my wife in the early days, but not now because she's been with me for 2 years and is too tired from work and has seen me fart and shit and caught me masturbating and isn't as impressed with my feminism anymore -- I have to continue to play the role of JossWhedon. Even though I'm Joss Whedon.

I'm actually drawn back to The Avengers, first and second films, especially around Hawkeye and Black Widow's relationship. Remember, Whedon wrote and directed both. In the first film, it feels as if these two characters are meant to be together, the sexual tension is very high and there is a strong suggestion of an intimacy - not just sexual, emotional intimacy, which is arguably just as bad a betrayal of a matrimonial relationship. It's the only real romantic relationship in the film; Tony Stark and Pepper Potts' relationship is a legacy from the Iron Man films. In the second film we suddenly get the wife and family at home like an add-on, an afterthought.

My guess is that this dynamic between Hawkeye and Black Widow is in microcosm how JossWhedon conducts his affairs with younger female women. Hawkeye is a Rescuer taken up to 11: he got Black Widow out of some shit, that's why she "owes" him, that's apparently why they have a close emotional bond but can't take it to an open relationship for some reason ... which we find out in the second film is because Hawkeye is already fucking married. This is probably how Whedon rationalises his affairs with hot sluts: they give him a sob story about how they're down to their last rent for the week, he pays them, they owe him, he gets them a part, they fuck him, along the way having a weird non-relationship-y dynamic.