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Morbidly obese. Desperate for advice on where to start.

Morbidly obese. Desperate for advice on where to start.

Quote: (06-25-2017 10:39 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Look the fact is none of us are qualified to give dietary advice.

No. You, Phoenix, are not qualified to give dietary (or fitness) advice.--

Quote: (08-29-2016 12:07 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Quote: (08-29-2016 11:54 AM)zatara Wrote:  

You can eat normal social meals with other people, just supplement them with extremely calorie dense shakes and you'll get there. Full fat milk + peanut butter + protein powder can get you a high protein 1k+ kcal shake very easily. 3 of them a day on top of normal food and you're flying.

Yes yes, all that was done. GOMAD was done. Shakes twice as dense as that recipe was done. The super nutrition-dense liquid stuff hospitals feed to decrepit people was done (on top of other meals). To reiterate: the 5 months ended primarily due to a total physical/mental burnout, such that it was only a fluke of temporary market conditions and some other factors that I didn't end up getting fired.

The Forum is littered with your own testaments to your utter personal failure to get strong by finding the right diet/workout regimen and sticking to it. So yes, if by "none of us are qualified" you mean "I am not qualified," then you would be quite correct.

Unlike you, I am rather well qualified to give basic dietary and workout advice -- and indeed I have done so to many men in real life, some of whom are members here, with positive results. Like you, I am a natural ectomorph. My natural set-point weight for fifteen years was 70 kg. Over four years I transformed from 70 kg/25% bodyfat to 86 kg/16% bf -- an addition of 20 kg (44 pounds) of lean muscle without recourse to roids/TRT or any other unnatural means.

By the way, Phoenix: You felt qualified to give the OP another of the pieces of truly shitty advice in this thread: Take a weight-loss pill. No. The brain always punishes a short-cut: Because there are none.

When you have nothing to say, you would do well to keep silent, rather than 'sperging out, in trademark Phoenix fashion, like this --

Quote:Phoenix Wrote:

He's bitching out so bad he can't even stomach anonymous criticism on an internet forum on something he started himself there. What does OP think, this forum is fucking magic, and you don't even need to go to the effort of posting data once a week, and it'll still magically transform your body into a fitness model's? If he can't even do this, he's already done for.
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