Chengdu or bust.
I have a few friends who live in Wuhan and it's godawful.
Suzhou seems "eh"
Hangzhou seems "eh," but you can confirm with Vacancier Permanent
Also, what is your experience with chinese locals? If you already have a bunch of chinese friends, fine, but I think you will find that Chinese people in a tier-2 city in the mainland will drive you up the wall with how homogenous and boring they are.
Not to get on the bashing train, but nearly all my long-term expat friends in China have only 1-2 REAL Chinese friends. As in, they hang out often and really get along well and aren't just exchanging favors.
I once asked a friend why he didn't have more Chinese friends and his reply was quite telling.
me: bro why don't you have more local friends. You're fluent as hell.
Him: What are we going to do together? Smoke cigarettes and stare at each other?![[Image: icon_lol.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/icon_lol.gif)
Not to be pessimistic or defeatist, but I have generally found it VERY hard to relate to the locals outside of a few exceptions. To be honest, most of my local friends are girls I've fucked. I know that sounds sorta weird, but I find Chinese women to have 100x better social skills than local dudes and are less generic.
Do not write off other foreigners. I guarantee that you'll come back to this thread in 1 year and tell me about how 95% of your close friends are other foreigners.
I have a few friends who live in Wuhan and it's godawful.
Suzhou seems "eh"
Hangzhou seems "eh," but you can confirm with Vacancier Permanent
Also, what is your experience with chinese locals? If you already have a bunch of chinese friends, fine, but I think you will find that Chinese people in a tier-2 city in the mainland will drive you up the wall with how homogenous and boring they are.
Not to get on the bashing train, but nearly all my long-term expat friends in China have only 1-2 REAL Chinese friends. As in, they hang out often and really get along well and aren't just exchanging favors.
I once asked a friend why he didn't have more Chinese friends and his reply was quite telling.
me: bro why don't you have more local friends. You're fluent as hell.
Him: What are we going to do together? Smoke cigarettes and stare at each other?
Not to be pessimistic or defeatist, but I have generally found it VERY hard to relate to the locals outside of a few exceptions. To be honest, most of my local friends are girls I've fucked. I know that sounds sorta weird, but I find Chinese women to have 100x better social skills than local dudes and are less generic.
Do not write off other foreigners. I guarantee that you'll come back to this thread in 1 year and tell me about how 95% of your close friends are other foreigners.
I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.