Bumping this thread since it rears its ugly head from time to time. There are some golden nuggets in here. I think I used to think DC had fewer attractive women. But when I am networking out the ass every week, I meet an early 20s 8 at least once every week. Getting them to commit to anything has been a chore. So I am often direct at the venue and suggest more insta venue changes to get a feel on their DTF vibe. Not a lot different than before, but I think I am going to state my intent more. Let's get out of here doesn't appear to be working for me as it used to. So I am working more on the rapport when I didn't care if I skipped it right to the close. Aside from this approach, we sometimes have to settle for a business card exchange to follow up on a meet one on one. And when you see more than once that a new girl you don't know very well tries to switch the venue last minute or says anything like it's not convenient for her, then I just go with Basil's advice to say another time and move on to others to maintain frame and to continue serving your abundance mentality.
When a first date asks to change date venue
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