[XPQ22]

(02-09-2017 10:23 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

You asked for my details: I'm South African, English speaker. I've lived in Pretoria for too long, this is my 17th year, and I'm fed up of the place and I'm planning to leave the place this year. I'm thinking of dropping a data sheet to celebrate leaving.

Anyways, provided you can ramble well enough, there are girls who are willing to least share a phone number. That said, my previous stats (I always kept track of my approaches and outcomes) show that I had to make 10 - 20 approaches to get a phone number, and only about 1 in 5 of my numbers actually led to dates, so it was always a numbers game (yes, it took me 50 - 100 approaches to get 1 date).

Funny, if I were good at keeping statistics (I'm not) my results here in the greater Boston area would probably come out about the same. Maybe around 100 approaches to get two lays from night game over the past year and a half.

In my experience girls you direct approach that you manage to get out on a date are way more ready to put out than the average online dating girl - they're very into you. Most of the girls I hooked up with were from online, and while you get more dates that way it's always extremely hit or miss and most times it was anyone's guess how it was going to play out until I was either packing it in after it went nowhere, or taking her back to her apartment.

People disparage online but I pulled some real stunners from it who weren't just playing games - they're out there. And I never once settled for banging a real hog or a girl without a pretty face. But, on average, you'll meet more attractive women out in the real world.

(02-08-2017 05:27 AM)pirate Wrote:  

@XPQ22

Thank you for your very detailed, point by point rebuttal of my mental masturbation. I do not agree with everything you said, but you are certainly correct that there is a lot of All-or-nothing thinking in my post. +1 from me- it is rare to be given such personalized advice from a stranger.

You're welcome. I felt I was too harsh in a few places, I didn't mean to insinuate all your values were BS. What I meant was that it's a losing proposition to imagine you can divine other people's thoughts about you. I love going out solo, and I talk to lots of different people when I'm out, men and women alike. I almost never think to myself "Oh, this guy, this guy is the awkward PUA in the bar that's putting up a front." It simply doesn't register at that level, and I think women are much the same way. They're out at the club to have a few drinks, some conversation, and maybe meet a cool guy.

Unless you're completely off-the-wall like the Asperger's kid with the Pokemon backpack that turns up in front of the strip to try to get women to play Go with him every weekend, I just don't think they're analyzing things at the level you think they're analyzing them.

It's too bad more people don't take a minute to talk with that kid, he's hilarious, frankly. Probably has a way better chance of taking a girl home than some of the angry guys I see out there...