Quote: (11-13-2016 10:19 AM)Agastya Wrote:
Quote: (11-13-2016 08:13 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:
I'm an immigrant too. But I get the sentiment. For many Americans, it isn't so much about doing it by the book or not, it's about demographics. Immigration isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it needs to happen slowly, with enough time for the migrating population to assimilate to a point of no distinction. Over the span of decades, if not centuries, you ideally get people who are fully assimilated.
Demographics in the United States is a real concern (and I say this as an Indian man). Ann Coulter mentioned this might be the last time Republicans are voted into the White House. The harsh reality is that the US needs to drastically decrease immigration. I look at my 2nd generation Indian American friends and they are a threat to the United States. I've said this in other threads, but in our blind desire to be American we've adopted the easy path to Americanization: anyone can be an American, regardless of beliefs, customs, religion or other important aspects of a healthy nationhood. The hard path (which would take a few generations) is complete assimilation with no loyalty or connection to the motherland.
Immigrants and their children vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party. There are parts of the alt-right clamoring to strip every post-1965 immigrant and their descendants of US citizenship. I think that might go too far. But the underlying premise is accurate: the multiculturism and tribalism we're seeing due to an enormous amount of immigration in the United States are not going to bode well for the nation. A healthy nation needs a strong national cultural (and religious) identity. You can't have that with every fucking minority in the US holding on dearly to its ancestral culture.
I disagree with parts of what you said. For example, I don't think that there's anything wrong with immigrants holding on to some aspects of their parent culture. I'm Indian-American, I love listening to Indian music and reading about Indian history. My best childhood friends are other Indian-Americans, our parents are all successful computer engineers, we generally live pretty healthy lives and do right by the laws of the country. I don't think second-generation immigrants are America's main cultural flaw at the moment, it's the proliferation of third-wave feminism and political correctness coupled with the breakdown of the family.
I completely agree, however, that we need to scale back the number of immigrants that America accepts at the moment.
I'm curious, why do you think that your Indian friends are harmful to the U.S? Is it because of any innate cultural characteristics, or is it because they're libtards? I'd understand where you're coming from its the latter, but then that's because they're libtards, not because they come from an immigrant background.
We can talk about this in detail over PM. But in short: most of our Indian-American friends are libtards because they come from an immigrant background. You cannot separate the two (80% of immigrants and their children vote D).