Quote: (09-06-2016 12:22 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:
Quote: (09-06-2016 05:12 AM)subterfuge Wrote:
That is crazy! That late for date tinder opener.
I done that as my opener to get my only ever one night stand some time ago!!
But I thought i'd made it up myself! I had never seen that video! Crazy. Maybe I should only ever use that opener? It could be teh holy grail!i Don't know how I made it lead to sex but I guess I must have done something right?
Regarding the prank guy in my vid, I personally thought he came across as smooth and with good body language? How would it be improved?
And when you talk about the opener only getting your foot in the door, but the magic happens later, by 'magic' are you referring to like kino, eye contact, having witty comebacks etc? I need more help with that part I think. I don't even know how I pulled that girl!!
I would say the goal of any cold approach is just to make a girl laugh (build trust and comfort). She doesn't know you, she could have a boyfriend, and she doesn't want to talk to a random stranger. The goal is to make her feel safe and at ease with you.
That could be the problem with Direct PUA openers is that the objective is of a direct sexual nature, that the woman may not want or be expecting. She may be too young, inexperienced and uncomfortable being cold approached by a stranger. There are some girls that just don't want to talk to strangers due to fear and inexperience. The girl needs to have time to decide for herself if she likes a guy.
The "beautiful compliment" opener makes girls uncomfortable because she doesn't know what to say, and its not a conversation piece. She can say "Thanks for the compliment, now goodbye."
Instead, by joking and asking her on the tinder date - then the girl has time to decide if she actually likes this guy and considers him attractive. You have to give a girl that time to desire a guy and make up her own mind.
Once a woman has made up her mind about desiring a guy, then she clings to him for life, and its easy to date/sleep with her. Pickup should be about creating "desire from a woman" and making a man irresistible.
I completely agree (although maybe that's not a good thing, as I am very unsuccessful with girls)
But I generally see the same thing with direct openers. When I tell a girl I think she is cute as my opener, even though it 'can' go well, it generally seems to make the girl feel a bit awkward from what I can see, and she doesn't really know what to say.
Some of the more confident, older girls seem to like it, but they seem to then gain all of the power. They stick around whilst you are telling them how pretty they are, but that's really all they want out of the conversation (until even hearing that gets boring!) They know you want them. You've shown your hand straight away. They are in control
Maybe 'funny' is really the answer, which would suggest I should be looking at prankster type guys as my inspiration as opposed to pickup guys!
In fairness, I have been harshly rejected once or twice with the 'tinder opener', but it still remains the only opener that lead to a one night stand for me.
And other 'funny' openers have lead to makeouts.
But everytime I do a 'typical' opener (either direct or indirect using what i've learnt from books etc) it usually goes pretty badly