Briefly, where I'm coming from. I'm happily married and here at the forum to better my masculinity as well as to learn the ins and outs of game so I can teach it to my sons.
This thread was spurred by several others relating to LTRs.
I was unfortunately raised on the basis that every relationship with a female should be entered into and kept up on the basis that it was a permanent arrangement that would inevitably occasion marriage (raised by a single mother).
This lead to years 16-23 being utterly miserable in terms of dealing with the opposite sex. I was a total white knight who had no idea why I wasn't getting laid despite being such a nice guy. In my misguided mind the object was sex but the means was commitment, rather than just getting my shit together and banging sluts (for shame!).
Some recent threads have related to either the possibility of entering into an LTR or the messy results of an LTR ending. With the benefit of hindsight my question is this.
What in the bloody hell is the point of an LTR unless you're absolutely committed to inevitable marriage?
Now, I'm not talking about "friends with benefits". I'm talking monogamy and eventual cohabitation, because if I had to give one piece of advice to my sons regarding women it would be "until you're genuinely looking to settle down, pump and dump exclusively."
Is this logic flawed? To me it seems like sex via monogamous dating is largely a product of mainstream media shows like Seinfeld who even back in those days wouldn't dare to delve into the realms of pump-and-dump conquest.
To me, LTRs seem like giving your balls to a woman on the promise that she'll routinely drain them.
This thread was spurred by several others relating to LTRs.
I was unfortunately raised on the basis that every relationship with a female should be entered into and kept up on the basis that it was a permanent arrangement that would inevitably occasion marriage (raised by a single mother).
This lead to years 16-23 being utterly miserable in terms of dealing with the opposite sex. I was a total white knight who had no idea why I wasn't getting laid despite being such a nice guy. In my misguided mind the object was sex but the means was commitment, rather than just getting my shit together and banging sluts (for shame!).
Some recent threads have related to either the possibility of entering into an LTR or the messy results of an LTR ending. With the benefit of hindsight my question is this.
What in the bloody hell is the point of an LTR unless you're absolutely committed to inevitable marriage?
Now, I'm not talking about "friends with benefits". I'm talking monogamy and eventual cohabitation, because if I had to give one piece of advice to my sons regarding women it would be "until you're genuinely looking to settle down, pump and dump exclusively."
Is this logic flawed? To me it seems like sex via monogamous dating is largely a product of mainstream media shows like Seinfeld who even back in those days wouldn't dare to delve into the realms of pump-and-dump conquest.
To me, LTRs seem like giving your balls to a woman on the promise that she'll routinely drain them.
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