Quote: (03-23-2016 01:46 PM)Designate Wrote:The isolation seems to be the biggest challenge for me especially for the small groups. Girls in grps of 2 or 3 might be standing or sitting together at the smoking area mostly with a drink in hand. You strike a conversation with them. After sometime, you realize that the conversation thread is running out and you have no excuse to isolate them. They always want to move around with their friends who will notice if they are missing.
For starters I'd recommend you check back and read Bang page by page again. A lot of these questions you are asking in this thread have already been covered and answered by Roosh.
It should always be your goal to isolate. But if it's a big group, especially with a mix of girls and guys, you'll most likely be forced to disarm the group at large though. High energy and a fun vibe will be necessary.
In general what you say will be purely situational and different across the type of venues, type of cultures and language.
If she is putting off an overt sexual vibe by eye fucking you repeatedly then you should obviously reciprocate.
If you don't want to make things complicated I'd check back with the basics via Roosh:
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Bang - Page 23-24 - The Approach
There are two multi-purpose openers that you can use almost anywhere. The first: "Hey. You look like you are having the most fun here out of anyone." When used in a bar or club, it is said with enthusiastic sarcasm to match the mood of the venue. When said everywhere else, it is said with relaxed sarcasm, unless she really is having lots of fun then you can just say it straight. In both instances you crack a very slight smirk to let her know that you are being sarcastic. Say the "Hey" with a healthy volume to get her attention so that she makes eye contact with you. Once she does make eye contact, deliver the rest of the line. She will respond back with laughter or something simple like "Really?" or "I know, I am!" She is now opened. The reason this line works well is because you are joking that she appears boring, so you the interaction often starts with her qualifying herself to you. (By "qualifying herself" I mean she is explaining or rationalizing a perceived flaw.) The advantages of this opener are that it is very easy to deliver and doesn’t need adjustment based on where you are. The disadvantage is that you still need something else to continue conversation. When you are opening a group of girls, simply add the word "guys." Say, "Hey guys, you look like you are having the most fun here out of anyone." Again, I must stress to get your volume up there to make sure they all hear it―you don’t want the conversation to start with "What did you say?" When I use this opener, I either follow by making a comment about our shared environment or something situational, or I stack another opener after it, such as this second one.
The second opener: "Hey. Let me guess. You are from ________." Like in the previous opener, you also wait until eye contact is established before continuing after the "Hey." Make sure you do a dramatic two second pause after you say "Let me guess." Feel free to add a slight squint as if you are thinking. Here you are going to guess where she is from, whether it be a city, state, or country. I like using this opener on girls who are obviously not American because you dive into a guessing game of what country she is from. It’s win-win for you because if you get her country wrong then she usually wants you to keep guessing, continuing the interaction, and if you get it right then she is impressed and asks you how you knew. To double my chances of getting her country right, I cheat a little with something like, "You are either from Argentina or Mexico." Even with girls who are not ethnic and just white, this opener still works well: just guess that they are half German or Norwegian. There is a good chance her ancestor will be from somewhere in Europe. And then for girls who are acting snobby, show that you are not impressed with their demeanor by guessing they are from a place like Romania or West Virginia. As long as a girl doesn’t blow you off after you say "Hey," this opener leads to conversation. If your girl is in a group then say either, "Hey, let me guess… you guys are from Argentina," or, "You guys are from Argentina and Colombia," or, "I have a feeling that at least one of you is from Argentina." This opener works because of the guessing component, so it can easily be modified to start a conversation about almost anything. For instance if you see a girl writing in a bookstore, you can say, "Let me guess. You are writing the next great American novel?"
If you are at a music concert you can say, "Let me guess. You have been a fan since before they became big?" You can tone down the initial phrasing of this opener if you are in a more relaxed venue. In a coffee shop I’d say, "Hey, I’m just curious… are you from Argentina?"
Can you see yourself saying these lines to girls? A monkey could do this! While they are powerful, even the best opener is not going to work all the time, but these two are the most effective openers I’ve used. Not coincidentally, they are also the simplest. As for which one to use in certain situations, you can’t go wrong with either. These openers take away the "What am I going to say?" excuse that prevents so many guys from talking to a girl they like. Even if you completely freeze after the opener, the fact that you opened and made yourself a presence in her world dramatically increases your chance of getting something.
This problem can be solved very effectively with a wingman but we are talking solo here.