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(02-09-2016 11:49 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

A. isn't going to work. I've seen guys like you in the real world. Not your age, but with the same mentality. I've tried to help them but its impossible as their view of themselves is skewed.

So lets go with B. and that means everything you posted about how you are is full of shit in terms of how you perceive yourself.

Odds are:

-You dress like shit.
-You're most likely skinny with no muscle or skinny fat.
-You have no friends and are essentially mooching off your family.
-Your hair is messed up in some fundamental way.
-You're most likely an alcoholic hence why you have depression.

I could go on but this list is pointless. Your entire worldview is a farce and that's the point.

Solution: Find some new friends whom are successful, start to look around at what the guys who are getting laid do to get laid, and learn to talk to strangers as well as ask why they are laughing at you. Now get off your ass.

To clear up your points:

I dress well, definitely above the average attire.
I work out with and without weights, enough muscle to be & look fit - eat fairly clean.
I'd say it has been harder to make/keep friends because I have been moving around a lot.
Hair is fine.
Not an alcoholic, depression is more related to my past and things that went on in my family, as is anxiety.


I can usually hold a conversation and keep a girl interested, but the obvious obstacle is that they need to be interested and as I said that hasn't occurred in a long time.

I mentioned MGTOW in my initial post because it seems like the only real logic to go for here and so many years down the track.
One can only regret and make excuses for so long...

If in all the cities i have been in (all population +300000) in countless restaurants, bars, clubs, malls, train stations, petrol stations, workplaces etc you name it, surrounded by girls/women - there has not been any tangible girl motioning towards a point of view that she is interested in me and me only, add to that equation - years, I think that really says a lot.

Fair enough, as I have grown into my looks more, rid the baby face, stood taller, and started to look and act my age of the last 2 years there has been many more indicators of interest, but seriously this does not prove much.
Most people can sense I don't have normal confidence, or maybe confidence that matches my appearance.

Eg - Walking in the mall about 30 minutes ago, pretty cute blonde thing walking my direction, she notices me, smiles/grins awkwardly but in a way that I assume says - "Whats wrong with you/wtf?" --- then looks away quickly.
Could it really be a different reaction?, maybe. But I am good with social cues and body language.