I've said this before and I'm saying it again. On this forum and in life in general - it is important to understand the perspective of the person you are reading or listening to. HankMoody has read a lot of the older Heartiste/Roissy blog. I've read and learned a lot from that blog as well. But Heartiste's understanding of game is limited to the Washington D.C. area which is not a good representation of the rest of the world and Heartiste can be quite negative. Heartiste has even said in his blog that there are positive and negative aspects about women and he writes almost exclusively about the negative aspects of women because our culture only focuses on the positive.
If you take Heartiste's advice very literally then you are going to fail in a lot of situations that don't involve a bitchy careerist western woman. However, if you understand Heartiste's perspective then you will know when to relax a little with the hardcore alpha posturing. I know this because I've failed in a lot of situations with girls outside of western culture because I was following Heartiste's advice too closely.
This original post in this thread is a good example. Hank might have been successful in this situation but I think the more experienced forum members have shown that the situation could have been handled before it ever happened or while it was happening. The hardcore alpha posturing of leaving the girl wasn't the ideal solution.
Heartiste also talks a lot about being aloof and "amused mastery" which I think would have been a better approach. Heartiste would probably suggest something different like making friends with the guys and telling them how to game the girl. Example - if they are talking about food then tell the guys her favorite food is sushi and something like "you should tell her you will take her out for sushi and ask her for her phone number".
If you take Heartiste's advice very literally then you are going to fail in a lot of situations that don't involve a bitchy careerist western woman. However, if you understand Heartiste's perspective then you will know when to relax a little with the hardcore alpha posturing. I know this because I've failed in a lot of situations with girls outside of western culture because I was following Heartiste's advice too closely.
This original post in this thread is a good example. Hank might have been successful in this situation but I think the more experienced forum members have shown that the situation could have been handled before it ever happened or while it was happening. The hardcore alpha posturing of leaving the girl wasn't the ideal solution.
Heartiste also talks a lot about being aloof and "amused mastery" which I think would have been a better approach. Heartiste would probably suggest something different like making friends with the guys and telling them how to game the girl. Example - if they are talking about food then tell the guys her favorite food is sushi and something like "you should tell her you will take her out for sushi and ask her for her phone number".