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(12-05-2015 04:59 PM)luke Wrote:  

Right now I live and work in PL for over a year, travelling a lot, working on myself and having a good time. For the young players interested to get easy office job with enough money to drinkdate, backpack and spend some time in the Roosh's favorite country, I could prepare a mini datasheet if interested.

First off, that is a very interesting topic that will get you a lot of attention on here. Personally, I'm planning on spending some time in Eastern Europe and this interests me greatly.

And I'd like to know as XXL does why you shit test girls.

Overall, the tone of your post and the specifics you give show at least to me that you've got the right attitude. I think you need to take your head out of the game aspect for a second and look around, and realign yourself with your setting. A lot of more hardcore game angles are built around dealing with stone cold girls who like to toy with guys, and girls who are easy to fuck generally but not necessarily specifically (by that I mean girls who are going out to get fucked by someone, but that doesn't mean it'll be easy for you to be that guy without game).

These kinds of things are completely out of place in Eastern Europe. Keep your slut awareness sharp, because it sounds like Poland will soon become a place for hard game approaches, but as of now it just seems like you might be coming off too strong for these girls.

You sound like you're looking to run and gun and slam these conservative girls, who might have a good time with you the night they meet you, but later characterize you as a guy who just wants to fuck. That good time can work against you in such cases as they rationalize why they'd want to continue seeing you—if they feel like you can quickly fuck them, it might scare them away when that isn't what they want you to do.

I would suggest opening the same ways, and developing the conversation on a more personal level and not being too sexual. Assume you aren't dealing with sluts, or girls who are even thinking about quick sex. Assume quick sex scares them. This goes back to old Day Game advice—treat them like cats, easing into the sexual talk and building comfort gradually so as not to scare the cat away.

Bring up your travels like you do, and go into detail with stories. In short, treat your night game in your EE spots like day game in more Western spots, and stop trying to get ONS unless you feel like you've got an easy girl. There are easy girls everywhere and part of game is finding these girls when you want something quick, so if that's what you're looking for, it's just a matter of vetting out these girls, picking up on the signs and searching harder for them, because there's fewer of girls like that advertising their sluttiness in the EE than LA or Vienna.

If you want the all-around quality, you'll have to quit chasing after the kinds of ONS you'd find in Austria and so on, because it's just not as realistic. At least, that's what I've gathered from my experiences in Poland and with Slovenian and Czech girls. Once you get the comfort you need with these EE girls, they spread their legs like any other, as you know. But there's a lot more build up that's necessary for them than say some Scottish skags or other Westerners.

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I have realized that recently my tolerance for bad behavior has lowered quite a lot. For example a year ago I would not have even thought about standing up and leaving from the date. When girl is late, she always gets a lecture. When she smokes, when her nails are not perfect, when is she not wearing girly shoes (most of them came to an event and eventually ended up on a mini date with me) and so on.
I am also doing a lot more shit tests and situational negs. Instead just being cool and keeping the playful wibe. Sometimes I end the date with a brief makeout (in case of no bang) sometimes I simply tell them that they forget to give me their number when saying goodbye.

Then I call or text them, usually after a couple of days. And suddenly they are dead cold on the phone, not willing to meet me, not rescheduling, answering texts like a dude etc. That makes me lose my interest and to go back to my plates or to try to pick up a new prospect.

This is one good example of what I mean. Lecturing a girl like this is a highly defensive kind of game in my eyes and only works to fuck up your blood pressure. Learn to let these things slide, because often these girls, especially if they're from smaller villages, are just like this and can't help it. Maybe they don't own the best high heels, maybe they painted their nails a few days before and didn't have time to redo them for the date. Maybe she really doesn't give a shit how she looks. If she's still worth the bang, who cares? If you care, then don't lecture her, just up and leave. You don't owe her an explanation.

I feel that taking an offensive or lecturing tone with a girl in Eastern Europe is taken a lot more heavily than in the US where you need an abrasive attitude to even hold a conversation half the time. That might be the number one thing that's pushing girls away. Just let things slide a little more and treat them warmly.

All in all I think you should just go back to what your gut tells you about the culture there. You might have focused so much on the West and Western-oriented game styles that you forgot what it was like to swim in your own pool.