[Dalaran1991]

(12-02-2015 02:53 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 10:10 AM)Requiem Wrote:  

(12-02-2015 04:55 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Here’s a few of her proposal: Muslims can not be considered French unless they have pledged to follows the lifestyle and values of the historically-Catholic France.

Sorry, but I never understood this: How can someone from another country ever be considered a Frenchman (or any other nationality other than his original one)? There are Turks living in my country in the 5th generation - they all have a German passport and citizenship and were born here and everything. But they are still just that: Turks in Germany.

I think it's entirely possible for other cultures to fully integrate into society even after at least one generation. I've seen it all over the US and Canada. I would say though that most of Europe makes it easier not to integrate. Here at least in the US it is encouraged and more far more beneficial.

Oh and most definitely WB.

Yeah integration is entirely possible if the newcomers are willing and able to be absorbed into the new cultures and adopt its values. Remember, there were Asian soldiers serving in the Wehrmacht. If they bring values, do not disrupt the social cohesion of host society and are willing to integrate, I dont see any reason not? For a long time Roman Emperors only recruit Batavian warriors to be his bodyguards because they are more loyal than Romans.

A lot of the disdain for foreigners come from the entitlements of immigrants. Those who did integrate well, you can hardly tell them apart if not for the physical traits. They work hard, live like you do, and never ask the host society to receive them. They know it is their duty to persuade the new country to accept them first. You can find plenty of people like that anywhere.

More often than not they have a more active interest in preserving the host country than the locals, because for someone who are willing to forsake his entire heritage to join a new one, it must taken a deep and great passion for the new country.