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(11-01-2015 05:56 PM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 05:05 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  

In terms of chicks, I do very bad here, I'm still a virgin for Christs sake which is mix of my short height, aesthetics (working on this), poor game, anxiety and the general state of women here in London.

I'm having a terrible time here but I really want to know how I can maximise my time here until I move when I'm 30ish.

Or should I move earlier to another country? I've got no idea but I'm really not enjoying myself here.

(11-01-2015 05:47 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  

I'm on 20K right now mate. I think I may just take weekend trips to EE whenever I can until my game improves as it is easier there apparently.

It´s not easier there.
If you can´t get laid in London, you won´t get laid in EE either.

Better save some money and go on a trip to the Philippines as soon as possible. Lose that V card, get it out of your system, so you have one problem less to worry about. A few notches under your belt will do wonders for your confidence.

I don't agree with this. It will definitely be easier in Eastern Europe. Mainly because of your gaming bankroll.

I lived in London for a good while and on top of the company paid town house in Zone 1 I spent around 4 times that of your monthly after tax and I got results sure but they werent perfect, most importantly they were nowhere near what I would get with that kind of bankroll in let's say Thailand or Philippines. Considering the fact that (central) London is too expensive for hard working British people and is therefore mostly populated by the following two kinds of crowd;

1- Arab oil sheikhs, Indian outsourcing business owners, expat CEOs.. etc looking to throw money around, and
2- Slutty Eastern European girls who want to save their asses by becoming a mistress to someone of Group 1.

You can't really go straight into Group 2 when the Knightsbridge/Belgravia crowd can tear you apart with their bankroll alone (not to mention the designer clothes, Italian sports cars, rock solid careers and of course the confidence that comes from all this) The path for you to follow seems to be (a) fix your confidence issues, then (b) master "the grind" and network as much as you can with group 1 and look for opportunities for a high salary career or better yet your own business. Your business doesn't have to be the next big thing, it doesn't even have to be something mainstream, I know a guy that everyone who had met him has asked "where did you find this dork" He scored a gig in which he contracts fabricators and tradesmen in Turkey for cheap to build propellers then sells them to a European boat engine manufacturer. That dork makes seven figures.

I kind of understand the moving to Manchester idea but you'd be severely limiting your grinding pool. London is filled with opportunities that people who can barely speak English (but has mastered the grind) can grab and completely 180 degree shift their lives. You have much better chances because you're playing the home game as a London native.

I don't think you should try Eastern Europe before you fix your confidence issues because even though the income levels are lower it's not some magical place where women bend over at the airport waiting for you, you'll need good game there too. (Especially when you're competing with half the senior RVF crowd) Neither should you try SEA.

Lastly, I know pay for play isn't taken well here but something I have to recommend; prostitutes. There was a time when I was stagnating badly and I felt like the whole world was coming over me, I tried to fix it with alcohol, drugs, different friends, the gym, I even got a shrink but at the end prostitutes were what helped me get through it. By fucking quality pussy repeatedly, your mind subconsciously realizes that women aren't an entirely different species that you should be putting on a pedestal and other people around you aren't really any different from you. That was what shifted my game (both the pickup game and the grind game) up several gears. Don't go 20 quid a pop in Soho make sure you go for one who's at least 100-150 quid.

I'd say start working out, do the Stronglifts 5x5 program. The squats will really help with your stance and you'll notice it in as soon as a week. Wait until the test increase really hits you, spend 300 and get a quality escort for your first time (no Romanian they're so in it for the money that you'll hate it) keep your cool, pop the cherry, have a good time. You'll see for yourself that things will change after that.

PS. Here's a good Wall Street Playboys article about how many times the median income you should have to pull what level of pussy. http://wallstreetplayboys.com/personal-f...nd-dating/
I'm not affiliated, it's not clickbait and I think a good portion of RVFers already know about Wall Street Playboys and how good a blog it is.