***What Does The Bible Actually Say About Premarital Sex?***
The Manosphere appears to have acquired a generous sprinkling of Christian flavouring over the past couple of months. Exciting times. But amidst all the discussion of the compatibility of Game and God, one question remains unanswered: What sort of sexual morality does Christianity actually demand of its followers?
More to the point, is banging sluts on the reg compatible with Christian morality?
I am tempted to say ‘yes’ and call it a day. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 suggests to me that we are free to bang non-virgins at will. Also, to stone them:
13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel’s virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
16 And the damsel’s father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him
(But also remember that Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Otherwise, deleteth her number and act unfazed when you see her in the same bar next month.”)
So God seems OK with banging and discarding non-virgins. Then again, the bible repeatedly admonishes fornication. But what is fornication?
The question of whether casual sex is acceptable hinges on our definition of this word, which is a translation of the Greek porneia. The most common English translation of porneia that I’ve found is the disappointingly vague “sexual immorality.” So let’s see if we can infer the meaning from scriptural context.
I Corinthians 6:18 implies that all extra-marital sex is classified as Fornication:
“Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife and every woman have her own husband”.
Hebrews 13:4 is pretty clear on whoremongering:
“Marriage is honorable in all and the bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.”
And what is the modern American carousel rider, if not a whore with poor bargaining skills? But surely there is some difference between a whore-monger, i.e. a man who devotes a gluttonous fraction of his thoughts and energies to whores, and a mere whore-dabbler. Christians, help me out in the comments.
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In any case, the position of the modern Church is clear: Casual sex is against God’s will. But the rot of Churchian infiltration runs deep. True Christians must assume that any scripture which can conceivably be misinterpreted to serve the purposes of the feminists, will be. Biblical double standards, where they serve the interests of men, will be papered over. The most egregious example of this tendency is that the bible clearly permits polygyny. Cases in point: Would Jesus have told us the parable of the ten virgins, without mentioning that the fundamental premise of the story is that the man in the story was a sinner?
Churchianity would have us believe that marriage is simply whatever the Churchians tell us it is – in most cases, a ridiculously unfair and unbiblical legal contract between one man and one woman. But what does scripture say?
The most commonly cited passage in support of monogamous marriage is I Corinthians 6:18. “Let every woman have her own husband.” Just like my brother and I each had our own bedroom, every blogger has his own URL, let every woman has her own hunk of man meat. The modern English translation implies no sharesies. I wonder though, is this the correct translation? My Greek is a little rusty.
Because the rest of the bible, outside of that verse, seems to imply that polygamous sharesies are most certainly permitted.
The Old Testament obviously permitted polygamy, as many of the old patriarchs had multiple wives. The Pentateuch also contains many guidelines with regard to the juggling of multiple wives. For example, Exodus 21-10 explicitly demands that when we acquire additional wives, we do not diminish the food, clothing and marital rights of the first.
The New Testament retcons the ability of men to divorce their wives at will. But does it forbid polygamy? No. Timothy 3:2 supplies the exception that proves the rule:
“A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.”
Church leaders must have but one wife. But the rest of us? Line ‘em up, Paul implies.
And what is marriage? Does it require a license, a certificate from your local state government, or even the witness of a pastor? I Corinthians 7 clearly divides women into two categories: Virgins, and Married. This implies that the act of sexual intercourse is sufficient for marriage. Luke 16:18, contra Deuteronomy, states that marrying/fucking an already married/fucked woman is adultery. So Christian men are left with one option: Chase virgins. Once you hit it, add her to your wife collection. End of story. At least, until she bangs some other dude. See Matthew 5:32:
“But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”
So – Christian Men – did you come here looking for scriptural permission to bang as many sluts as you cared to? Were you crossing your fingers, hoping to learn that the Christian imperative to male chastity was no more than yet another anti-male invention of feminist-infiltrated Churchianity? Yeah, me too. But while the polygamous acquisition of multiple virgin wives is a slam dunk, the case for hitting and quitting is more ambiguous.
Hyperlinks and an interesting comment thread can be found here:
http://web.archive.org/web/2012102507385...rital-sex/
The Manosphere appears to have acquired a generous sprinkling of Christian flavouring over the past couple of months. Exciting times. But amidst all the discussion of the compatibility of Game and God, one question remains unanswered: What sort of sexual morality does Christianity actually demand of its followers?
More to the point, is banging sluts on the reg compatible with Christian morality?
I am tempted to say ‘yes’ and call it a day. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 suggests to me that we are free to bang non-virgins at will. Also, to stone them:
13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel’s virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
16 And the damsel’s father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him
(But also remember that Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Otherwise, deleteth her number and act unfazed when you see her in the same bar next month.”)
So God seems OK with banging and discarding non-virgins. Then again, the bible repeatedly admonishes fornication. But what is fornication?
The question of whether casual sex is acceptable hinges on our definition of this word, which is a translation of the Greek porneia. The most common English translation of porneia that I’ve found is the disappointingly vague “sexual immorality.” So let’s see if we can infer the meaning from scriptural context.
I Corinthians 6:18 implies that all extra-marital sex is classified as Fornication:
“Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife and every woman have her own husband”.
Hebrews 13:4 is pretty clear on whoremongering:
“Marriage is honorable in all and the bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.”
And what is the modern American carousel rider, if not a whore with poor bargaining skills? But surely there is some difference between a whore-monger, i.e. a man who devotes a gluttonous fraction of his thoughts and energies to whores, and a mere whore-dabbler. Christians, help me out in the comments.
*
In any case, the position of the modern Church is clear: Casual sex is against God’s will. But the rot of Churchian infiltration runs deep. True Christians must assume that any scripture which can conceivably be misinterpreted to serve the purposes of the feminists, will be. Biblical double standards, where they serve the interests of men, will be papered over. The most egregious example of this tendency is that the bible clearly permits polygyny. Cases in point: Would Jesus have told us the parable of the ten virgins, without mentioning that the fundamental premise of the story is that the man in the story was a sinner?
Churchianity would have us believe that marriage is simply whatever the Churchians tell us it is – in most cases, a ridiculously unfair and unbiblical legal contract between one man and one woman. But what does scripture say?
The most commonly cited passage in support of monogamous marriage is I Corinthians 6:18. “Let every woman have her own husband.” Just like my brother and I each had our own bedroom, every blogger has his own URL, let every woman has her own hunk of man meat. The modern English translation implies no sharesies. I wonder though, is this the correct translation? My Greek is a little rusty.
Because the rest of the bible, outside of that verse, seems to imply that polygamous sharesies are most certainly permitted.
The Old Testament obviously permitted polygamy, as many of the old patriarchs had multiple wives. The Pentateuch also contains many guidelines with regard to the juggling of multiple wives. For example, Exodus 21-10 explicitly demands that when we acquire additional wives, we do not diminish the food, clothing and marital rights of the first.
The New Testament retcons the ability of men to divorce their wives at will. But does it forbid polygamy? No. Timothy 3:2 supplies the exception that proves the rule:
“A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.”
Church leaders must have but one wife. But the rest of us? Line ‘em up, Paul implies.
And what is marriage? Does it require a license, a certificate from your local state government, or even the witness of a pastor? I Corinthians 7 clearly divides women into two categories: Virgins, and Married. This implies that the act of sexual intercourse is sufficient for marriage. Luke 16:18, contra Deuteronomy, states that marrying/fucking an already married/fucked woman is adultery. So Christian men are left with one option: Chase virgins. Once you hit it, add her to your wife collection. End of story. At least, until she bangs some other dude. See Matthew 5:32:
“But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”
So – Christian Men – did you come here looking for scriptural permission to bang as many sluts as you cared to? Were you crossing your fingers, hoping to learn that the Christian imperative to male chastity was no more than yet another anti-male invention of feminist-infiltrated Churchianity? Yeah, me too. But while the polygamous acquisition of multiple virgin wives is a slam dunk, the case for hitting and quitting is more ambiguous.
Hyperlinks and an interesting comment thread can be found here:
http://web.archive.org/web/2012102507385...rital-sex/