Quote: (11-04-2014 09:36 AM)frenchie Wrote:
Going to be flamed, but I don't see the problem.
As a white guy, I'd expect to run into problems trying to get a factory job in India or China with a name like mine. Racism is a worldwide phenomena . I'd change my first name to something else if I had to do such a thing.
They'd probably hire you as a manager - a lot of people have serious inferiority complexes when it comes to foreigners in those countries.
Or, they may hire you to represent the company - having a white employee is seen as prestigious.
Colour of money: Chinese firms rent white foreigners PER HOUR to get ahead in business
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Chinese companies are 'renting' white people in a bid to boost their chances of securing new business.
The firms hire fair-skinned foreigners as fake employees or business partners - sometines for as little as an hour.
Britons are among those hiring themselves out as fake tycoons, executives or office workers, according to a report by CNN.
Companies are happy to pay fair-skinned foreigners by the hour, the day or a week for what is known as 'White Guy Window Dressing,' 'White Guy in a Tie' events, 'The Token White Guy Gig,' or a 'Face Job.'
Firms advertise for 'pretty white women' or 'white men who look good in a suit' so they can boost their image by appearing to be successful international operators.
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Quote: (11-04-2014 09:32 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:
A few years ago I was in charge of a project that aimed to introduce local Turkish high school students to international university students. I was supposed to bring a couple people from each country (as many countries as possible) and have them teach English and teach about their culture to the local students here. The goal was to promote diversity and give these local students an experience they would never forget, since they couldn't afford to travel and meet foreigners.
As you can guess, the more diverse the team was, the more successful the project would be. So I did my best to bring as many different nationalities as possible. But the project hit a wall when it came to recruiting from Western Europe and North America. After tens of interviews with people from countries like France, U.K, U.S, The Netherlands, I couldn't find anyone but minorities. I mean I had easily filled my quota for Asians and Arabs before, so why would I bring another Asian from U.S and an Arab from UK? No matter whether they were born in U.S or in Asia/Middle East, they are not much different than the Asian and Middle Eastern recruits when it comes to looks and mentality. Their birthplace only changes their accent and somewhat affects how extroverted they are and that's it. A British Achmed will never be as British as James. Now what the hell was I supposed to do? Recruit 50 Arabs from NA/WE region? I need somebody to teach these kids about French Culture, what will I do with a praying, festing Muslim?
To get what I'd like to call ''100% American/British/French'' I started asking about their origin, birthplace, the native language of theirs and their parents in the interviews. I had to be as racist as possible to get the job done because 49 out of every 50 applicants were of immigrant origin regardless of their names.
The point is, race matters. It matters not because of the color of skin (not to me anyway) but because of the origin of nationality and culture. I gladly recruited an African American and the kids loved him. But your average Chang is likely to be born and have been raised in a traditional Chinese family, with Chinese friends, Chinese mentality and Chinese customs. Same goes with Jose, Achmed, Mohammed.
The Jose in the video might be an exception to this due to the way he was raised or how well he improved himself, but picking a random applicant with a name like 'Jose' is not a safe bet if you are looking for an American with an American mentality to deal with clients and customers.
I totally disagree with what you’re saying – there’s a huge difference between children of immigrants versus the culture of their parents country.
I came to the US for grad school, out of 200+ students, I was the only person from Europe & I’m not white. My parents are from India. Should they have turned me down because of my race? The only African guy was white – he was a white South African! Should be have been turned down?
Do you think it’s better to have somebody who knows something about a country rather than not have anybody at all?
I took part in a panel regarding international elections at my grad school. I represented the UK. The only people who ever gave a shit about my race were the students from China and Korea. It was a mindfuck for them to see a brown guy with an English accent.
There are some cultures who have problems fitting in to the cultures of the countries that they immigrate to e.g. Turks in Germany, Pakistanis/Bangladeshis in UK, Arabs in France, but that’s mostly down to the parenting style of the kids. My father always told me that I am British, not Indian. I’m proud of my Indian heritage, but unless somebody specifically asks, I never bring it up! I grew up watching British TV, watching Hollywood movies and I ate British food 50% of the time whilst I was growing up. What the fuck do I have in common with some guy from the village in Punjab who can’t speak English, grew up listening to bhangra music and watching Bollywood films?!
When I moved to the US, I found out how British I am, and it’s a lot. I don’t even hang out with Indians in Los Angeles – nearly all of my friends are not Indian. I went to a buffet with a Chinese-American woman at a country club on the weekend. I was easily the darkest customer there – did I give a shit? No! I felt in fitted in fine.
My real name doesn’t even seem Indian – my last name is Indian but passes as an English name (e.g. some Indian names pass like Tailor, Mann, Dillon) and my first name is English. My LinkedIn profile doesn’t have my photo on it. I guess I'm glad I have that name so that nobody has any preconceived stereotypes about me based on my name.