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I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Cyclone - 08-14-2017

I've looked into so, so many. After 2 hard drives failing on me in the past year, I needed to find a way to legit put all my music and photos online.

Somehow EVERY SINGLE ONE of these services, from Dropbox to Carbonite, tries too hard to intrude on our life in every manner possible. No, I do not want automatic continual syncing. No, I do not want to share with my coworkers. No, I do not want a giant green check mark next to every icon in my folder. No, I do not want this stuff to appear on my cell phone. No, I do NOT WANT YOU TO DELETE THE FILE FROM MY HARD DISK, GOOGLE DRIVE. Yes, I do expect you to keep my files on your fucking cloud even after I delete it from my 256GB SSD, you fuckfaces.

I just want us to be able shove 500GB online somewhere, and not have anyone fuck with it. Is that too hard to ask for these days, or have we been cucked by overzealous techies?
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I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - John Michael Kane - 08-14-2017

Have you ever thought about setting up something like FreeNAS?

http://www.freenas.org

FreeNAS has the ability to turn an old server or one you build from scratch into a home-based cloud solution you can access from anywhere. With all the SJW nonsense that Google and others are doing these days, I want to move my data away from left-wing companies that just don't get it.

Running a server out of your home with a static IP address isn't that difficult and gives you more peace of mind that some SJW won't lock you out of your account or some clueless tech accidentally delete your data.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - The Beast1 - 08-14-2017

Go old school: open an account on Amazon Web Services, set up a new ftp service, upload your content there.

I just had a hard drive die on me this past week too. Thankfully I had time to back stuff up.

I've used Boolebox before as a cloud storage tool. More encryption and it's designed with security in mind so sharing is by default difficult and not encouraged.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - kinjutsu - 08-14-2017

Mega.nz

Its a good service, has end to end encryption. It has support for mobile apps if you want it but otherwise it's not trying to get all of your personal data.
I highly recommend it. Been using them for years with zero issues.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - John Michael Kane - 08-14-2017

Forgot to mention this one earlier... I've never used it, but you might also look into Crashplan as they have both local and cloud services for your data.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - churros - 08-14-2017

Look into spider oak as an alternative to dropbox. I tried it before, but it doesn't have the space of dropbox, unless you pay extra. That's the catch with service that guarantee your privacy: you have to pay to get the same benefits, because they're not exploiting your personal data.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Cyclone - 08-14-2017

Spideroak and Crashplan I've read about, but both seem have an overload of convoluted features

Quote: (08-14-2017 08:05 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Have you ever thought about setting up something like FreeNAS?

http://www.freenas.org

Running a server out of your home with a static IP address isn't that difficult and gives you more peace of mind that some SJW won't lock you out of your account or some clueless tech accidentally delete your data.

I would do something like this, but I travel a lot and don't exactly have a fixed "home" or location, and many countries I go to have poor internet. I think Amazon and Backblaze and similar (corporate-oriented?) services.

Quote: (08-14-2017 08:08 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

Mega.nz
I highly recommend it. Been using them for years with zero issues.

This looks like it might be the best fit. As long as they don't hold your hand or automate anything I'll sign up. BTW i don't care about companies selling my data or whatever, it's not like I have child porn on here I just want essentially a virtual hard drive.
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I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Ballr - 08-14-2017

Try OneDrive by Microsoft.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - kinjutsu - 08-15-2017

Quote: (08-14-2017 10:08 PM)Cyclone Wrote:  

Spideroak and Crashplan I've read about, but both seem have an overload of convoluted features

[quote] (08-14-2017 08:05 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(08-15-2017, 01:08 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  Mega.nz
I highly recommend it. Been using them for years with zero issues.

This looks like it might be the best fit. As long as they don't hold your hand or automate anything I'll sign up. BTW i don't care about companies selling my data or whatever, it's not like I have child porn on here I just want essentially a virtual hard drive.
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No they don't.
It was originally founded by Kim Dot Com a few years ago after they raided him for the mega upload non-sense.

You get 50GB free upon sign up and you can IF you wish to pay for more storage if 50GB isn't enough for you.
I forgot to mention they also have a desktop sync app if you would prefer to use it that way.
I can't recommend them enough. Been using them for years without a single issue.
In the 3+ years i've been using it i have never once had any sort of upgrade or annoying opt-in garbage.
Great and simple UI allows you to create as many folders as you need to keep your stuff organized.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Running Turtles - 08-15-2017

I second Mega.co.nz. Some people doubt that they are as secure as they claim to be since Kim Dotcom was raided, but I'm personally not too worried about New Zealand Police reading my insurance contracts. If you're in New Zealand and using it to store pirated movies, you might reconsider, but otherwise they should be OK.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Guitarman - 08-15-2017

Cyclone wrote ; "I just want us to be able shove 500GB online somewhere, and not have anyone fuck with it. Is that too hard to ask for these days, or have we been cucked by overzealous techies?"

There is a business opportunity here for a server knowledgable forum member who happens to have a secure fast server with tons on space on it. Secure, red pilled, no hassle online storage space, for a small fee to repped/ validated members of RVF. A little additional stream of location independent income for someone?

Call it "Red Pill Online Storage" or "AlphaSpace", or "LittleDarkSpace" ( first 31 gigabytes of storage are free in honour of the 30 white knights defeated by "the one").

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - monster - 08-15-2017

filecoin.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - RatInTheWoods - 08-15-2017

Buy a cheap 1Tb portable usb powered drive for $60, load it up. Make sure it's encrypted (they come with built in password encryption)

Store offsite and rotate/refresh every three months

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - TheFinalEpic - 08-15-2017

I've been looking at NAS and personal cloud storage devices from companies like WD or Synology. Any feedback on these? Would probably get a 2 drive device and run RAID 1 for important client files etc.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - John Michael Kane - 08-15-2017

Get a Synology disk station with at least four drive bays. You will want it for expansion and redundancy. Great operating system that is easy to use for beginners and powerful enough for flexibility. I've deployed several, clients have loved them.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - WilliamDoor - 08-15-2017

Quote: (08-15-2017 07:27 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Buy a cheap 1Tb portable usb powered drive for $60, load it up. Make sure it's encrypted (they come with built in password encryption)

Store offsite and rotate/refresh every three months

I would not use any of their built in crap. They own it, and thus you can not trust them.

I use Linux, so not sure if this will help you, but you can alter your drive with LUKS + ext4.

I have 2+ 1TB hard disks, a few key chain USBs and an SD card, all with the above done.

https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gn...encryption

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - the-dream - 08-16-2017

Try Degoo, you can get a lifetime 2tb plan for $60 - https://deals.gdgt.com/sales/degoo-ultim...bscription

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Cyclone - 08-16-2017

Quote: (08-15-2017 07:27 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Buy a cheap 1Tb portable usb powered drive for $60, load it up. Make sure it's encrypted (they come with built in password encryption)

Well this is what I've always done, on my 5th hard drive (Seagate Backup Plus Slim, supposedly 4% failure rate) but the problem was they would often break down or get corrupted - one of which the data was unrecoverable.

Quote: (08-16-2017 12:10 AM)the-dream Wrote:  

Try Degoo, you can get a lifetime 2tb plan for $60 - https://deals.gdgt.com/sales/degoo-ultim...bscription

That sounds insanely cheap. Will look into it if it's not too dependent/reliant on the current state of my laptop, because it sounds like they too like to continually sync.
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I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - churros - 08-16-2017

Quote: (08-16-2017 12:10 AM)the-dream Wrote:  

Try Degoo, you can get a lifetime 2tb plan for $60 - https://deals.gdgt.com/sales/degoo-ultim...bscription

Yeah, wondering what the catch is. 95% off?

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - zoom - 08-16-2017

The best solution is still an external hard drive that you can control. You can't trust any of the cloud services with your data and information.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - blck - 08-16-2017

What is Cloud Services ? Ain't that having a service accessible from anywhere ?
I understand that having your desktop, pics and apps decentralized might have an advantage but what I see is a major flaw.

If your problem is having your files backedup "online" what is blocking you from having your own personnal 1TB HDD mirrored RAID1 NAS with FTP enabled ?

I mean DropBox updated their user chart several years ago to expressly take ownership of everything uploaded on their servers and their not the only ones.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Soothesayer - 08-17-2017

Only way I'd ever trust a cloud service is by using encrypted containers. If say I am in Bangkok I'd upload an encrypted Veracrypt/Drivecrypt/PGP/Whatever and re-download it somewhere else.

This of course doesn't solve the problem of 5TB of HD movies and lossless music. But it works well for word documents.

Friend of mine trusted The Cloud with his 100k word suspense thriller novel. He goes into Kmart to get some supplies, comes back to find his car window smashed and laptop gone. He thinks, "Whelp, good thing I saved it to Microsoft's Cloud Service". He spent hours with them on the phone to get it back. No dice.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - RawGod - 08-17-2017

I've heard about all of these alternate services - ProtonMail, Startpage, etc. that you can use to get out of the clutches of the big tech companies. What I'd pay money for is an ebook that will explain step by step how to do the transition. I get a headache when it comes to thinking about dumping and replacing all the services I use.

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - WilliamDoor - 08-17-2017

Quote: (08-17-2017 12:55 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

I've heard about all of these alternate services - ProtonMail, Startpage, etc. that you can use to get out of the clutches of the big tech companies. What I'd pay money for is an ebook that will explain step by step how to do the transition. I get a headache when it comes to thinking about dumping and replacing all the services I use.

Check out the links in my sig (I copy them here so you can see on your phone).

2nd and 3rd links very good, extra info on every thing you can think of that links to the net.

Secure Email - https://protonmail.com/
Privacy Tools - https://www.privacytools.io/
Opt out of global data surveillance programs - https://prism-break.org/en/
TAILS OS - https://tails.boum.org/
Tor Project: Anonymity Online - https://www.torproject.org/

I am sick and tired of these "cloud" services. - Malo - 08-17-2017

Try adrive.com. They're the cheapest in the industry, do not have the attitude you guys complain about, and allow ftp, rsync, webdav etc. Been using them for years, they are reliable (so far anyway).