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G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-03-2011
Quote: (10-01-2011 04:34 AM)MD81 Wrote:
Initially tested this suiting up last night at mid high end club and honestly I was amazed with the attention I got. Mad respect. Suit up guys, this is definitely the key.
I had my swagger on, and walking into the venue where there were three rope points of entry check, I was able to completely bypass the entry queues and bouncers were simply opening up the entrances as I was walking in with greetings, how you doing sir.
Now I have to calibrate and adopt this style correctly.
Respect to G. I am a fan now.
Nice work.
Yeah, when done correctly, going Suited Down will instantly jump your Game up two levels minimum.
There is really not a better bang for your buck out there (so to speak).
It is nice to see people coming around on this one after years, and I mean years of hate from the Internet masses.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-03-2011
Quote: (10-02-2011 12:19 AM)satanova77 Wrote:
Is there any role for sports coats or blazers in the lifesytle of an international playboy? or it has to be a suit? or i guess more specifically how to choose sports coat with jeans vs suit....i would think its venue dependent....
I live in Houston where its hot as hell....so thought of suit after work makes me cringe....
I am trying to elevate my game up from regular clubs and wine bars to 5 star hotel bar scene.....But i want to go prepared ...any thoughts?
Of course sports coats can work.
I just posted on one I have:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6863-p...l#pid98907
I am not big on "sports coat and jeans look" though.
Makes people look like Stand Up Comedians from the 80's.
I go sport coat and slacks.
But then again, I don't even own a pair of jeans.
G Manifesto Vindicated - BadgerHut - 10-04-2011
"It is nice to see people coming around on this one after years, and I mean years of hate from the Internet masses."
Haters gonna hate, but even this surprises me. Modern people won't know classy fashion if it bumped into them on the train.
"I am not big on "sports coat and jeans look" though."
Nothing like sport coat and jeans to says high-class hipster (is that an oxymoron?)...or too short of an attention span to get a jacket and a pair of slacks in the same season.
G Manifesto Vindicated - alecks - 10-04-2011
im gonna start suiting when i head out,im young but fuck me is it slick.
entrance song anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTDJaBeq...re=related
G Manifesto Vindicated - Moma - 10-04-2011
Quote: (10-03-2011 11:58 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (10-02-2011 12:19 AM)satanova77 Wrote:
Is there any role for sports coats or blazers in the lifesytle of an international playboy? or it has to be a suit? or i guess more specifically how to choose sports coat with jeans vs suit....i would think its venue dependent....
I live in Houston where its hot as hell....so thought of suit after work makes me cringe....
I am trying to elevate my game up from regular clubs and wine bars to 5 star hotel bar scene.....But i want to go prepared ...any thoughts?
Of course sports coats can work.
I just posted on one I have:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6863-p...l#pid98907
I am not big on "sports coat and jeans look" though.
Makes people look like Stand Up Comedians from the 80's.
I go sport coat and slacks.
But then again, I don't even own a pair of jeans.
I am with you bro on the jeans tip. The cats I roll with always ask why I never rock jeans but too many peeps here rock jeans. I can't come from Europe and not bring over some swag, for Pete's sake.
G Manifesto Vindicated - satanova77 - 10-04-2011
Thanks G. I am going to try slacks and sports coat as that makes me feel comfortable at this stage and I can move my swagger to it without disrupting my flow.
The photo of JFK inspired me. Now that I think back to my childhood this is what I wanted to look like on my journey. Also ordering monogrammed fitted white shirts.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-04-2011
Quote: (10-02-2011 02:16 PM)bars Wrote:
G, do you have an opinion fabrics between Loro Piana, Scabal, Holland & Sherry and Vitale Barberis?
Which one do you recommend?
Also, single vented, ventless or double vented?
Bars -
Good question, however, the fabrics question is a little above my pay grade.
I am familiar with all of them, but lack the knowledge to give you a full breakdown.
My tailor now uses Holland & Sherry.
I have one suit by him that I am 14-0 with 14 KO's with.
I hope that helped.
As far as:
"Also, single vented, ventless or double vented?"
I have all three.
However, every suit I buy Custom now is side vents.
I recently bought a sports coat from a little Italian boutique that was single vent.
I should break down exactly how I get my Suits made soon.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-05-2011
Quote: (10-04-2011 09:37 AM)alecks Wrote:
im gonna start suiting when i head out,im young but fuck me is it slick.
entrance song anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTDJaBeq...re=related
Yep, that is the kind of mindset you want.
I usually have this track running through my head when I roll out Custom Suited Down:
G Manifesto Vindicated - amistod - 10-05-2011
swag.
G Manifesto Vindicated - Laser - 10-06-2011
Quote: (10-04-2011 05:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I should break down exactly how I get my Suits made soon.
Can't wait to see this. I've only ever bought suits off the rack and got them tailored. I think the biggest thing keeping from taking the leap into custom suits is a lack of design sense. I can recognize when something looks dope, but am hopeless if I had to design something myself.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-06-2011
Quote: (10-06-2011 01:36 PM)Laser Wrote:
Quote: (10-04-2011 05:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
I should break down exactly how I get my Suits made soon.
Can't wait to see this. I've only ever bought suits off the rack and got them tailored. I think the biggest thing keeping from taking the leap into custom suits is a lack of design sense. I can recognize when something looks dope, but am hopeless if I had to design something myself.
Honestly, there is no easy answer.
What I like might not work for you.
Trial and Error is the only way.
Trust me, I have made plenty of error.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-07-2011
I have received a lot of PM's about this.
My advice is, do not go Custom on your first suit.
It is going to take a long while for you to find out what you like (and maybe more importantly, what you don't like) in Suits.
And although men's style is timeless, style does change a little over time.
It took me years to figure out what I think is the Perfect Suit.
And who knows, in a year or two, I might have a different opinion.
The more I think about it, my style of "Game Kung-Fu" (ie with a heavy Custom Suit slanted edge) takes time to master. It is not going to be a "quick fix". I have been doing this for years. (That also being said, I think "Suit Game" is the easiest way to jump your Game up two levels instantly).
But once you do, The World and Everything in it are within your grasp.
So don't drop a ton of CASH on a Custom, your first time out.
G Manifesto Vindicated - Brian - 10-07-2011
^^^^ this is good advice. dabble a little bit w/the cheaper off the rack stuff you can find at places like nordstrom rack. get a good tailor and you will be okay. when you start to know what you like and what you dont (and this takes years, not weeks) and you know what you want will last for 10 years (at least) then start to splurge. doing it this way will make you appreciate it more as well. but what i would recommend for the youngsters is custom shirts. you can get a custom shirt made for less then a lot of brand name off the rack shirts that you need to spend even more money on to get altered.
G Manifesto Vindicated - Vicious - 10-08-2011
My beginner advice? Get a H&M suit. Dirt cheap and still good quality to last you a couple of seasons. Wear it out and see how it follows you, observe the lines when you move your arms and stretch. These are the thing you'll be discussing with your tailor when you are ready for a "custom" (still can't get used to that term). 80% of the talent you meet won't know the difference visually anyhow and if you're questioned about the brand just say "Oh I just came here directly from work, my Gieves & Hawkes/Brioni is at the dry cleaner."
G Manifesto Vindicated - Prowl - 10-08-2011
First: Nick Wooster is a fucking beast, even if he's 200% gay. He's 100% beast.
Anyway, I think custom for a first suit is fine, depending on the definition of "custom".
There's made-to-measure and then full-blown bespoke. If you don't know anything about suits, bespoke is a waste of time and thousands of dollars. MTM is for anyone.
The primary difference between the two is that bespoke involves the creation of an entirely new suit pattern from scratch, and involves multiple fittings in person with the tailor. MTM just modifies an existing pattern via your measurements, sizing it up or down in different dimensions, and this is what the Hong Kong/traveling tailor suits are.
You can get servicable MTM done at reasonable prices by "Thick as Thieves" and "Indochino". TaT is better by a hair, IMO.
Anyway, my preferences are as follows:
Jackets: Single breasted 3-roll-2, NO pick stitching, patch pockets, NO ticket pocket, side vents, functional sleeve buttons, suppressed waist, fairly short length.
Trousers: No cuff, flat front, frogmouth pockets, side tab adjustment (i.e. no belt loops)
Shirts: Cutaway collar, angled 2-button barrel cuff (leave 1 button off to make room for watch), no darts, no pockets, no label. I also sometimes do club collars, and in this case I'd round the cuffs. Get shirts from ModernTailor.
With any MTM on the internet, best to just send them a garment that fits and have them measure that. Getting measurements done off your body is probably not going to work out, and doesn't even sometimes work out in person unless it's full bespoke and they adjust the fit mid-construction (which I definitely can't afford, lol).
EDIT: I didn't read the whole thread, so if I reiterated other posts I apologize. Definitely suit up though, every day/every way.
G Manifesto Vindicated - Laser - 10-09-2011
Quote: (10-08-2011 06:28 PM)Prowl Wrote:
First: Nick Wooster is a fucking beast, even if he's 200% gay. He's 100% beast.
Anyway, I think custom for a first suit is fine, depending on the definition of "custom".
There's made-to-measure and then full-blown bespoke. If you don't know anything about suits, bespoke is a waste of time and thousands of dollars. MTM is for anyone.
The primary difference between the two is that bespoke involves the creation of an entirely new suit pattern from scratch, and involves multiple fittings in person with the tailor. MTM just modifies an existing pattern via your measurements, sizing it up or down in different dimensions, and this is what the Hong Kong/traveling tailor suits are.
You can get servicable MTM done at reasonable prices by "Thick as Thieves" and "Indochino". TaT is better by a hair, IMO.
Anyway, my preferences are as follows:
Jackets: Single breasted 3-roll-2, NO pick stitching, patch pockets, NO ticket pocket, side vents, functional sleeve buttons, suppressed waist, fairly short length.
Trousers: No cuff, flat front, frogmouth pockets, side tab adjustment (i.e. no belt loops)
Shirts: Cutaway collar, angled 2-button barrel cuff (leave 1 button off to make room for watch), no darts, no pockets, no label. I also sometimes do club collars, and in this case I'd round the cuffs. Get shirts from ModernTailor.
With any MTM on the internet, best to just send them a garment that fits and have them measure that. Getting measurements done off your body is probably not going to work out, and doesn't even sometimes work out in person unless it's full bespoke and they adjust the fit mid-construction (which I definitely can't afford, lol).
EDIT: I didn't read the whole thread, so if I reiterated other posts I apologize. Definitely suit up though, every day/every way.
Great post. Anyone know of any London based made to measure companies similar to TaT and Indochino? Googling around, I've found several full on bespoke suitmakers, but not really any MTM suitmakers in the "fashion forward" vein of TaT and Indochino.
G Manifesto Vindicated - Prowl - 10-09-2011
Depending on your build, Ben Sherman makes some very affordable slim-fit suits also. Go to Nordstrom or Nordstrom Rack to try them on.
Pants fit me fine, but the jackets don't have enough room in the chest and the armholes are too low so they bunch on me, but they look great on plenty of other people. You can get them for like $250-300 sometimes. They're fused, not fully canvassed like TaT, but still not bad for OTR.
I'm not a fan of the cut on the Hilfiger slim suits, but people should still go try them on, same with Calvin.
G Manifesto Vindicated - haywire - 10-10-2011
I've always been a fan of dressing sharp and have definitely appreciated the power of suiting up, but never realized suits is one real pussy magnet that man has. I just put up a new picture in a suit on my okcupid profile and not only has my reply rate gone up but, boy, hotter women are opening me now!
G, must say you are far ahead of your times and there is real truth in your words. Mad props.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-17-2011
Quote: (10-08-2011 06:28 PM)Prowl Wrote:
First: Nick Wooster is a fucking beast, even if he's 200% gay. He's 100% beast.
Anyway, I think custom for a first suit is fine, depending on the definition of "custom".
There's made-to-measure and then full-blown bespoke. If you don't know anything about suits, bespoke is a waste of time and thousands of dollars. MTM is for anyone.
The primary difference between the two is that bespoke involves the creation of an entirely new suit pattern from scratch, and involves multiple fittings in person with the tailor. MTM just modifies an existing pattern via your measurements, sizing it up or down in different dimensions, and this is what the Hong Kong/traveling tailor suits are.
You can get servicable MTM done at reasonable prices by "Thick as Thieves" and "Indochino". TaT is better by a hair, IMO.
Anyway, my preferences are as follows:
Jackets: Single breasted 3-roll-2, NO pick stitching, patch pockets, NO ticket pocket, side vents, functional sleeve buttons, suppressed waist, fairly short length.
Trousers: No cuff, flat front, frogmouth pockets, side tab adjustment (i.e. no belt loops)
Shirts: Cutaway collar, angled 2-button barrel cuff (leave 1 button off to make room for watch), no darts, no pockets, no label. I also sometimes do club collars, and in this case I'd round the cuffs. Get shirts from ModernTailor.
With any MTM on the internet, best to just send them a garment that fits and have them measure that. Getting measurements done off your body is probably not going to work out, and doesn't even sometimes work out in person unless it's full bespoke and they adjust the fit mid-construction (which I definitely can't afford, lol).
EDIT: I didn't read the whole thread, so if I reiterated other posts I apologize. Definitely suit up though, every day/every way.
Interested in your opinion about "no ticket pocket"?
And why "no belt loops"?
(I know why some people don't like them, but I wanted to know your take).
G Manifesto Vindicated - Prowl - 10-18-2011
Quote: (10-17-2011 11:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Interested in your opinion about "no ticket pocket"?
And why "no belt loops"?
(I know why some people don't like them, but I wanted to know your take).
I feel like lately, ticket pockets have gotten WAY too popular, and I think it's going to start dating suits as being from the last 5 years or so, when you look at them in the future. I know it's a classic detail, but its gotten really trendy lately and I'm tired of seeing them on EVERY suit.
As for the "no belt loops", I just happen to like side tabs, because it's a detail that you don't see very often. Obviously, if you have side tabs, you don't need a belt or braces.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-18-2011
Quote: (10-10-2011 05:11 PM)haywire Wrote:
I've always been a fan of dressing sharp and have definitely appreciated the power of suiting up, but never realized suits is one real pussy magnet that man has. I just put up a new picture in a suit on my okcupid profile and not only has my reply rate gone up but, boy, hotter women are opening me now!
G, must say you are far ahead of your times and there is real truth in your words. Mad props.
Nice work.
I had no idea Custom Suit Game even worked on Internet dating sites.
You learn something new everyday on this forum.
G Manifesto Vindicated - el mechanico - 10-18-2011
Quote: (10-18-2011 11:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Quote: (10-10-2011 05:11 PM)haywire Wrote:
I've always been a fan of dressing sharp and have definitely appreciated the power of suiting up, but never realized suits is one real pussy magnet that man has. I just put up a new picture in a suit on my okcupid profile and not only has my reply rate gone up but, boy, hotter women are opening me now!
G, must say you are far ahead of your times and there is real truth in your words. Mad props.
Nice work.
I had no idea Custom Suit Game even worked on Internet dating sites.
You learn something new everyday on this forum.
G manifesto..If you were to use online dating what would you write as your self-desciption?
Sorry for the derail
G Manifesto Vindicated - Kish - 10-18-2011
Suit up!
G Manifesto Vindicated - jariel - 10-19-2011
2 Quick Points:
1. If you're going to be stylish, make sure your shit fits well. It doesn't matter how hot the item is, it's going to look stupid on you if it's too small or too big.
2. If you're going to be stylish, run smooth game on the females. Looking fly but running asshole game sends mixed signals.
G Manifesto Vindicated - thegmanifesto - 10-19-2011
Quote: (10-18-2011 08:18 AM)Prowl Wrote:
Quote: (10-17-2011 11:36 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Interested in your opinion about "no ticket pocket"?
And why "no belt loops"?
(I know why some people don't like them, but I wanted to know your take).
I feel like lately, ticket pockets have gotten WAY too popular, and I think it's going to start dating suits as being from the last 5 years or so, when you look at them in the future. I know it's a classic detail, but its gotten really trendy lately and I'm tired of seeing them on EVERY suit.
As for the "no belt loops", I just happen to like side tabs, because it's a detail that you don't see very often. Obviously, if you have side tabs, you don't need a belt or braces.
Yeah, I see where you are coming from.
I have thought the same thing, however I have bought three Custom Suits this year with ticket pockets.
I think my next I will go with out.
I have never tried "side tabs" although I might.
I kind of like having a belt. Gives you a legal weapon in case things get sticky.