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The Ukraine Thread III - Rocha - 07-22-2016

Stargorod in Kharkov, I am missing this place...will be there soon.

сумасшедшие люди !!

   

   

   


   

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The Ukraine Thread III - MikeMcLaren - 07-25-2016

I've been going to the supermarket at Ocean Plaza Mall to pick up some food, and I realized that my taxi fares are actually bigger than the cost of 3 or so days of food. Are there any good supermarkets that deliver food? Or what are the best supermarkets in Kiev?

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The Ukraine Thread III - Gaudente - 07-25-2016

Quote: (07-25-2016 11:05 AM)MikeMcLaren Wrote:  

I've been going to the supermarket at Ocean Plaza Mall to pick up some food, and I realized that my taxi fares are actually bigger than the cost of 3 or so days of food. Are there any good supermarkets that deliver food? Or what are the best supermarkets in Kiev?

did you try the metro ? it's only four grivnias

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The Ukraine Thread III - Gaudente - 07-25-2016

Quote: (06-24-2016 05:20 PM)Architect Wrote:  

Sometimes I feel there are certain periods in the year where women are generally more open for being approached. For instance In April, May, Early June, September, October they tend to be more interested. I am the same guy, I do the same type of indirect approaches at the streets, but i get better results in these times of the year. And trust me its not about me. The weather and climate plays a very important role on my game for some reason. Does anyone else feel the same about daygame in kiev these days?

Might it be that you sweat a lot and stink badly ?

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The Ukraine Thread III - Pokerbaby - 07-25-2016

Well I can't speak to the Ukraine but I am in Poland and I noticed women have been less receptive in July then in June.

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The Ukraine Thread III - Redbull_steve - 07-25-2016

Use the UKLONTAXI app . This way you don't get ripped off for a taxi ride . Yesterday i paid 67UAH for taxi from Maidan to Obolon

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The Ukraine Thread III - Apollo21 - 07-25-2016

Thanks a lot for the taxi app. I'm looking at places in Kiev for this August.
It's incredible...I used Google earth to recon the streets and get a 360 view of
what the city is like before I get there.

So is Khreschatyk St is the best place as far as a city center? I looked around and
most places seemed a bit quiet and residential. Even the University Park seemed
a pretty quiet spot...

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The Ukraine Thread III - MikeMcLaren - 07-26-2016

Uber works sometimes as well.

Quote: (07-25-2016 05:02 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

Thanks a lot for the taxi app. I'm looking at places in Kiev for this August.
It's incredible...I used Google earth to recon the streets and get a 360 view of
what the city is like before I get there.

So is Khreschatyk St is the best place as far as a city center? I looked around and
most places seemed a bit quiet and residential. Even the University Park seemed
a pretty quiet spot...

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The Ukraine Thread III - Vinny - 07-26-2016

Uklon is great. Especially if you set up all your frequent locations then sometimes it is only 2 minutes from picking up your phone till the moment you sit in the taxi. Like having a private driver.
During rush hours you have to increase the price to get the taxi. For those instances it is better to use other companies which you call to get a fixed rate, but also not always to your success. Off course the prices are negligible anyway.
Metro is great too.
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Fast in traffic.
Mega cheap 16 $cents, 13 if you buy a card with several rides
Abundance of girls
Live museum of soviet architecture and metro design
Frequent trains
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Loud
At times crowded although rarely and not to extreme
Somewhat depressive due to poorer less happier crowd
Sometimes you might get punched in the face if you are of a different race (story of one guy from RVF, don't know if he wants to name himself)
Super deep escalators, taking you to core of the earth, meaning that if you need to take one stop only it is easier to walk

Vinny's guide to gaming girls in Metro:
Option 1 (preferred)
On the way up from the station, don't just stand on the escalator but keep walking. You have a great chance to study girls standing on the escalator from behind, and if you like what you see then just approach as you are on the same level. If things go sour keep on walking till your next target.
Option 2 (less favourable)
Get IOIs while in train.
Aproach one stop before the one on which you are stepping out, preferably when the train is stopping for a station and it is less noisy for 20-30 seconds. Quickly number close, and as train starts to move and is gets noisy say good-bye and head to the exit for your stop.

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The Ukraine Thread III - YoungArt - 07-28-2016

I've been reading this thread for a little and there are different opinions. I just want to know if it's still worth going to Ukraine / Kiev. I'm in my early 20's and I actually speak Russian.

How expensive is Kiev though? I'm planing on staying there a week and then going to another city, don't want to spend a lot of money there.
What game works best in Kiev? I'm down for everything but online game as I'll stay there only for a week. I want to go there by the end of August.

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The Ukraine Thread III - Beirut - 07-28-2016

Its worth it and its cheap. Why wouldnt you do online game if only for a week?

Seems like more reason to pipeline before your trip

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The Ukraine Thread III - Deepdiver - 07-28-2016

Plug in a city near your residence and where you want to go (Kiev) for relative costs...

https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living

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The Ukraine Thread III - Malo - 07-28-2016

^ I'll add numbeo, a seemingly more authoritative site for prices:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/cit...&city=Kiev

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The Ukraine Thread III - Cambodian Creamsicle - 07-28-2016

Very expensive. Bring a big stash of loot. Provider game works best. Online game is the best.

Quote: (07-28-2016 10:30 AM)YoungArt Wrote:  

I've been reading this thread for a little and there are different opinions. I just want to know if it's still worth going to Ukraine / Kiev. I'm in my early 20's and I actually speak Russian.

How expensive is Kiev though? I'm planing on staying there a week and then going to another city, don't want to spend a lot of money there.
What game works best in Kiev? I'm down for everything but online game as I'll stay there only for a week. I want to go there by the end of August.

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The Ukraine Thread III - TripleG - 07-28-2016

Quote: (07-28-2016 10:50 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

Its worth it and its cheap. Why wouldnt you do online game if only for a week?

Seems like more reason to pipeline before your trip

This question has been answered to death by some of us who don't enjoy online game.
1. Rarely will a girl be as impressive in-person as in her profile. Photoshopped or professionally taken pics are the norm in the EE. I've met girls who genuinely looked like 9's in their profiles only to come down to earth when I saw them and they were a full 2 points lower.
2. Frequently girls who go online have issues. Whether it is mental issues, body issues or the strong need for LTR...online chatting might be pleasant but when you meet them in person they turn into a completely different beast.
3. Online game takes TIME something that you will not have if your first couple pipelines don't turn out well and you are there only for a week.
4. Flake rate is high, you have not met her in-person, and she doesn't have anything invested in you unlike say a great dance & make-out session at a club where you leave her wanting to feel more of you.

Since you are a guy in your early 20's I would stick as much as possible to night-game. Escalation in night-game is almost always faster than day/online game though I will say that the best talent can be found during day-game, especially at the beach.

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The Ukraine Thread III - Beirut - 07-28-2016

I was commenting on the relationship between only being there a week => no pipelining.

So 1 and 2 points are a separate issue. Although i completely disagree. Social media and dating apps have become prevalent and everyone is on them. Just like theres nothing wrong with guys on there, theres nothing particularly wrong with girls on there. At least not more than the general population.

I havent had bad surprises from online, it has been great for me.

About point 3, he can sit at home in his boxers and pipeline a week or two before. No time waste needed.

4. She flakes, you hit the club and run your nightgame.

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The Ukraine Thread III - Vinny - 07-28-2016

If I would go to a place for 1 week only I would definitely do pipeline, but do not start to early. If you start a month in advance your strong leads will fade by the time you get there. Do however try to get them to some sort of sexting and sending you tit pics. Then they are more invested and you have a chance to keep in alive. I am myself not good at this. Perfect time to start pipelining in my opinion is 2 weeks. Collect the numbers keep strong leads alive.

Girls in daygame, online and nightgame are often same people. I had it more then once that I match with the girl I banged prior via nightgame or daygame.

So as the saying goes "All's fair in love and war" use all methods available especially as you are going to be in a place for a short period of time.

I am going to Bucharest for 1 week in 4 weeks time. I am already using my Instagram to attract Romanian followers early in advance and I wil start working my Tinder and Badoo 2 weeks before landing. The rest of the work daygame and night game I will do when I land.

Balance is a good thing. Keeps you afloat in pussy deprived places. Keeps you good in all the methods available. My stats for 7.5 weeks in Ukraine. 8 girls of which 1 a plate visiting from Odessa, 2 daygame, 2 nightgame, 2 social game, 1 online game. I am happy with results cause at times I lean too heavy on the online source.

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The Ukraine Thread III - YoungArt - 07-29-2016

Thanks guys. I will start to plan my trip and eventually book a flight next week. Also will get lovoo and use it one week prior to my arrival in Kiev. However, what im really interested in is day game, number closing cuties and inviting them for some drinks the same day/night. This worked great for Lucky and me when we were in Berlin last week. Oh btw what's the best area to stay in Kiev (logistic wise) would you recommend Airbnb or Hotels? I'm sorry if these questions were asked 100 times. I'm just a young guy who wants pussy and party and all that on a low budget really.

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The Ukraine Thread III - superschalk - 07-29-2016

Quote: (07-29-2016 02:58 AM)YoungArt Wrote:  

I'm just a young guy who wants pussy and party and all that on a low budget really.

You can party for cheap in Kiev that's for sure but don't expect any higher quality girl for cheap especially within one week.

From the way you sound you should rather hit one of the beach resorts in the East. Better try Sunny Beach in Bulgaria, Palanga in Lithuania or Sopot in Poland.

Think these beach towns are better suited for the things you look to achieve.

Good luck anyways!

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The Ukraine Thread III - sportbilly - 07-29-2016

Can anybody suggest a good location in Ukraine back end of August with few (relatively) tourists and good day gaming opportunities. Dniper? Kharkiv?

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The Ukraine Thread III - Vronski - 07-29-2016

Quote: (07-29-2016 11:50 AM)sportbilly Wrote:  

Can anybody suggest a good location in Ukraine back end of August with few (relatively) tourists and good day gaming opportunities. Dniper? Kharkiv?

For daygame, definitely Dnipro ....contrarily to Kharkov, all the best malls are in the epicenter and within a 800 meters radius. Most of the best cafes and restaurants also. It's the most walkable city in the Ukraine IMO.

Stay near Most-Citi Mall or Passage Mall (I usually stay in a quite nice and modern one bedroom apart - 24 €/day - just in front of Passage, with views on the walking street, I can send you the Airbnb link by PM if you want (the owner is now a good friend of mine). Eradicator recommended the apartments that in the Most-Citi tower.

Make a search on "Dnipro" on this thread, Eradicator and myself have made a few posts about this city. One of my favorite restaurants in Ukraine (Myshi Blyakhera) is in Dnipro BTW

Edit : There's in Dnipro a quite nice place, Bartolomeo, swimming pool (highly enjoyable), restaurant and "in" club in the same complex, on the banks of the Dniepr and just ten minutes at max of taxi from the center ..... might be good in September.

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The Ukraine Thread III - Beirut - 07-29-2016

Vronski do you have any hotel recommendations for dnipro?

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The Ukraine Thread III - Vronski - 07-29-2016

^^^^^

Sorry, no. I always stay in the same apartment, no much sense to stay in a hotel IMO.

Edit : there's bungalows within the Bartolomeo resort, might be good if you are there for a short weekend in summer to suntan and party your ass off.

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The Ukraine Thread III - sportbilly - 07-29-2016

any pay and use good quality gym in Dnipro?

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The Ukraine Thread III - WeekendCasanova - 07-29-2016

Quote: (07-28-2016 10:40 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

If I would go to a place for 1 week only I would definitely do pipeline, but do not start to early. If you start a month in advance your strong leads will fade by the time you get there.

I disagree with the latter part of your quote.

My most successful dates in Kiev have been a result of pipelining around three weeks before arriving. The key is to not message them constantly. A few texts per day, some sexting, sending pictures to her...it all only builds rapport. This is how I get the same night lays in Kiev; I pipeline far enough in advance, that when I meet a broad she feels like she already knows me.

And in response to someone above; not pipelining is just silly. It takes a couple of minutes a day.

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