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Older Guys (40+) - robreke - 12-27-2015

Quote: (12-27-2015 10:35 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-23-2015 11:06 PM)robreke Wrote:  

In 40s here. Many bangs this year.

The oldest was 31, the youngest was 19 ( 2 nights ago)

Some 20, 21, 22 and 23 yo's mixed in for a decent 2015.

Take care of yourself, get good sleep, dress well, study game, apply game, never stop learning, focus on your weak areas until you're better and have confidence.

Robreke,

Speaking of the 19 to 23 year olds, how are you meeting them?

Seeking Arrangement? Day game? Night game? Other dating apps?

Thanks

I want to "cast a wider net" and I'm very interested in your approach strategies.

**

I turn 40 in 3 weeks!



Tinder and SA mostly. The 19 yo was SA. On dating sites like that I make my age about 10 younger. On Tinder, I make myself 27 to 28 y/o, which is kind of ridiculous when you think about it as I'm in my mid 40s [Image: cool.gif]. On tinder girls are super age conscious and that age range is about their upper limit. You're totally off their radar above 28 if you're focusing on younger women.

As long as you're in shape and have a full head of hair with no gray, a young woman's hamster can't process that you may be pushing 40 or in your 40s.

I got a good number of dates this year from day game too, mostly girls in their mid to late 20s, however, no bangs. I was disappointed with this and will work on my first date game with girls who are a little more mature and who I meet during day game. Frankly, it seems to be one of my weak spots.

I'd say if your first date and date game in general is tight, day gaming at places like whole foods ( 6p.m. to 7 p.m. seem to be prime ) and bookstores
is one way to cast a wider net for potential bangs. I've gotten to the point, during day game, where by the end of the approach/interaction, I can tell if the girl will respond to my texts and probably go on a date with me. Getting more than one or two dates with these girls, and getting the bang, as I said, is a different story.

I've found it easier to escalate and get sex from women I meet online or from dating apps. They're younger too, so no complaints.

Older Guys (40+) - Giovonny - 12-27-2015

Quote: (12-27-2015 11:10 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Tinder and SA mostly.

Thanks.

I just joined Tinder and set the age range from 18 to 21.

Have you banged any younger girls from Tinder?

What Tinder advice can you give me? I'm 39.

I appreciate your help.

Older Guys (40+) - robreke - 12-27-2015

Quote: (12-27-2015 11:18 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-27-2015 11:10 AM)robreke Wrote:  

Tinder and SA mostly.

Thanks.

I just joined Tinder and set the age range from 18 to 21.

Have you banged any younger girls from Tinder?

What Tinder advice can you give me? I'm 39.

I appreciate your help.


Gio, you're welcome.

The girls I've banged from tinder tend to be 25 and up. SA is the best for me for young women 19 to 23 as the connotation of an older (high value) man hooking up with a 'sugar baby' is already built into anyone using that site.

It goes without saying to use pictures of yourself that look good and 'young' ( clean shaven or just a few days growth) Girls on tinder are shallow so maybe some cool pics of you having a good time with friends or, even better, other girls. Come across as social, fun and young.

On tinder, set your age no older than 28...I'd start at 27. You can "fess up" later once you get the girls to like you ( bang ) with something like " I've always dated younger girls but I found on tinder, anything over 28 and I got no matches. I just wanted to make sure I showed up on your radar"

For tinder, a lot of 21 year olds think anything over 25 is 'too old' which of course is ridiculous, but they don't know any better. If you're not opposed to banging girls up to 25 or so, I'd push your search to that as it will greatly widen your net and you're still meeting younger women.

Good luck - would like to hear your results.

Older Guys (40+) - robreke - 12-27-2015

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Older Guys (40+) - HungJohnson69 - 12-27-2015

Quote: (12-27-2015 12:09 PM)robreke Wrote:  

On tinder, set your age no older than 28...I'd start at 27. You can "fess up" later once you get the girls to like you ( bang ) with something like " I've always dated younger girls but I found on tinder, anything over 28 and I got no matches. I just wanted to make sure I showed up on your radar"
Tinder Plus costs more for people over 30 (or at least used to), so in theory you could say that you tried to avoid the higher cost by lowering your age under 30... But I'm not so sure if that's a good idea or not, but it is one excuse. [Image: smile.gif]

Older Guys (40+) - goonies - 01-03-2016

Do you guys always lie about your age? That's one of my sticking points. I'm insecure about it and afraid it will scare them off.

Older Guys (40+) - BrewDog - 01-03-2016

Quote: (01-03-2016 07:34 PM)goonies Wrote:  

Do you guys always lie about your age? That's one of my sticking points. I'm insecure about it and afraid it will scare them off.

Well, it's a shit thing to do, but yeah.

I was in Ecuador at a hostel, and my roommate was an Irish guy named Sean. Of course he was Sean, he was Irish.

We went into town and hung out at a bar. We met some English girls and they asked how old I was and I said 40. Later, Sean told me, "Hey bro, don't be telling these college girls you're 40. When you say that, they think of their dads. You'll just always be the cool, old, fun, guy that they wanna hang out with... that never gets laid. You look 25 and they won't know otherwise."

So, later that night, we're hanging at the hostel and a new 20 y/o English girl starts hanging out with us. She asks how old we are and Sean says, "I'm Sean and I'm from Ireland and I'm 29. This is my friend from the States and he's also 29."

So, I didn't feel bad about it because I didn't lie. Sean did. And that girl and I hooked up for the month she was there teaching English in Ecuador. So yeah, fucking lie man. It doesn't hurt anything. That girl will go back home and tell everyone about the nice American boy she hung out with while she was teaching English in Ecuador. If I'd told her I was 40, just think of all the hard dick she would have missed out on. So, I actually did her a favor. [Image: smile.gif]

Lie like a champ. Fuck it. It feels shitty, but chicks are dishonest as hell, too.

Older Guys (40+) - goonies - 01-03-2016

Quote: (01-03-2016 08:08 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

Quote: (01-03-2016 07:34 PM)goonies Wrote:  

Do you guys always lie about your age? That's one of my sticking points. I'm insecure about it and afraid it will scare them off.

Well, it's a shit thing to do, but yeah.

I was in Ecuador at a hostel, and my roommate was an Irish guy named Sean. Of course he was Sean, he was Irish.

We went into town and hung out at a bar. We met some English girls and they asked how old I was and I said 40. Later, Sean told me, "Hey bro, don't be telling these college girls you're 40. When you say that, they think of their dads. You'll just always be the cool, old, fun, guy that they wanna hang out with... that never gets laid. You look 25 and they won't know otherwise."

So, later that night, we're hanging at the hostel and a new 20 y/o English girl starts hanging out with us. She asks how old we are and Sean says, "I'm Sean and I'm from Ireland and I'm 29. This is my friend from the States and he's also 29."

So, I didn't feel bad about it because I didn't lie. Sean did. And that girl and I hooked up for the month she was there teaching English in Ecuador. So yeah, fucking lie man. It doesn't hurt anything. That girl will go back home and tell everyone about the nice American boy she hung out with while she was teaching English in Ecuador. If I'd told her I was 40, just think of all the hard dick she would have missed out on. So, I actually did her a favor. [Image: smile.gif]

Lie like a champ. Fuck it. It feels shitty, but chicks are dishonest as hell, too.

Nice! I had fun times in Quito. Anyway, I have no issue lying if I will never see her again or if there's no potential to turn into something more serious. My main concern is what if we really like each other, the truth will have to come out eventually.

Older Guys (40+) - HungJohnson69 - 01-03-2016

Quote: (01-03-2016 08:08 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

Lie like a champ. Fuck it. It feels shitty, but chicks are dishonest as hell, too.
Yeah, hate the game, don't hate yourself. [Image: smile.gif]

Earlier when I was younger, I used to be "23" for about 10 years or so, but now I have grown a bit older, and I guess 29 is the sweet spot for me now (in reality I'm 40). [Image: wink.gif]

My achilles heel is that I'm balding, but otherwise look pretty youthful. (But it's not like I wasn't balding already when I REALLY was 29... Or 19 for that matter!)

Older Guys (40+) - doc holliday - 01-03-2016

Yeah I'm in agreement here with lying about your age if necessary. Half these young bitches have no clue how to tell age so if you look youthful enough, do it and fuck feeling bad about it( always easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission). When ever I tell these chicks I'm almost 50, they're in shock, saying I don't look it at all. Plus like BrewDog said, these bitches ain't telling the truth either so who cares. It ain't like you're lying to the Catholic Church, the IRS or anyone important so who gives a shit about some girl you wanna throw one into. We're all 25 year olds now right?

Older Guys (40+) - Deepdiver - 01-04-2016

Its been written on RVF many many times and in how many ways modern western women are shallow and lie as a matter of cultural expediency, High Heels, Push Up bras, Make Up, Ruby Red Lipstick, Blue or Green Eye Color contact lenses, any hair color, False Eye lashes, Mascara, Boob Jobs, sculpted bush shaves, wigs/hair extensions, liposuction... Profile pics 10 to 15 years younger and 20 lbs lighter...

Even more shallow is the typical woman's online search demands for a man with $5M or higher net worth, over 6 Ft Tall, advanced degree, no baggage (kids, alimony or child support) and no more than 10 years older than they are with a full rich flowing head of hair... and they are 5'2" with some college and obtw lied about their two kids and two different baby Daddies that will be in your face from time to time and she is only 23 y.o.

WTF over???

So get some just for men hair color coupons and change your hair color from gray or salt and pepper to your natural youthful color - the women in your life (rotation) will remark at how "hot" you look, list your age appropriate to the age range most popular with your target SMV females age range; Tinder 28 or 29, Match mid 30's and SA/WYP/MT/SM low 40's ...

The idea about feeling guilt for lying about your age or height is as beta as apologizing to a woman for keeping a rotation ongoing when she has a tantrum and tries to call you out on it.

Be Alpha and be Ruthless and be Selfish in the pursuit of your own desires and goals and if you let any feelings of guilt creep into your mind then read and reread:

http://www.returnofkings.com/76238/3-way...m-cheating

Older Guys (40+) - samsamsam - 01-04-2016

Quote: (01-04-2016 05:58 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Its been written on RUA...

What is RUA? I googled, is it this?
http://ruadventures.com/

Older Guys (40+) - Deepdiver - 01-04-2016

Quote: (01-04-2016 06:16 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Quote: (01-04-2016 05:58 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

Its been written on RUA...

What is RUA? I googled, is it this?
http://ruadventures.com/

PhatPhingered Typo fixed...

Older Guys (40+) - scubadude - 01-04-2016

I'm three years away from 40 but going to sneak in here for this. Those of you that are balding have you considered the high end hair systems (toupee's) to trim a decade or more off or even just for a different look? It seems like you can get a pretty undetectable one for a few hundred bucks.

Black Dragon did it http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/02/1...-the-cure/

Here are two of the more reputable companies with forums and you can see how drastically different people look. It is definately something I am considering in the coming years.

http://www.toplace.com/gallery/

http://www.northwestlace.com/customergallery.html

Here is an example of the quality with customer taken photos in their forum

http://www.network54.com/Forum/678938/th...updated%29

Older Guys (40+) - MikeS - 01-04-2016

Quote: (01-04-2016 07:36 PM)scubadude Wrote:  

I'm three years away from 40 but going to sneak in here for this. Those of you that are balding have you considered the high end hair systems (toupee's) to trim a decade or more off or even just for a different look? It seems like you can get a pretty undetectable one for a few hundred bucks.

Black Dragon did it http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/02/1...-the-cure/

Here are two of the more reputable companies with forums and you can see how drastically different people look. It is definately something I am considering in the coming years.

http://www.toplace.com/gallery/

http://www.northwestlace.com/customergallery.html

Here is an example of the quality with customer taken photos in their forum

http://www.network54.com/Forum/678938/th...updated%29

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Shave it. Easy, cheap, masculine look. No need to worry about grey hairs either.
Like most style choices probably works best if you're fit - but hell, even short, pudgy Charlie Runkle in Californication managed to pull off the clean shaven look pretty well. You don't really need to look like Jason Statham to make a buzz cut or shaved head work for you.

I find that I now look a bit younger using a proper electric shaver for head and face instead of a trimmer at 1-2 mm as I have mostly been doing for the last almost 20 years (started shaving my head a few years before I actually began to slowly lose my hair).
Although I'm still usually too lazy to shave more than two or three times per week.

Older Guys (40+) - PapayaTapper - 01-04-2016

Quote: (01-03-2016 07:34 PM)goonies Wrote:  

Do you guys always lie about your age? That's one of my sticking points. I'm insecure about it and afraid it will scare them off.

I wrote about this in another thread: Here's my 2 cents

thread-52341...pid1172031
Quote:Quote:

Bottom line OP: I understand your reservations about being dishonest or manipulative. But I also know that any girl that gets to be in my life for a significant period of time will enjoy it. The only time I've ever had a complaint about my age after the fact was when they were on the way out. That says it all to me

Here are a few ways to handle the question

1A. Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough not to get involved with superficial women" (I call this my 180 deg pivot...get her to start qualifying to you)

1.B Girl: "I think you're too old for me" (Statement slightly different than 1 A question)

PT: "The question isn't whether I'm too old for you. The question is whether you're mature enough for me" (Classic but still effective)

2.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough to bend you over my knee and give you a good spanking if I need to"
(I use that one if I suspect underlying daddy issues/older guy fantasy)

3.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old / mature enough not to let what my friends or family think keep me from doing what I want"

(I refer to that one as a "cock block inoculation" if girl is around others. One of the biggest stumbling blocks to banging younger women that might otherwise want to)


There are many others. Pivot/ deflect or ignore. Keeps the mystery/potential/tingles alive


Older Guys (40+) - el mechanico - 01-04-2016

^ Cmon guys. Would any of you let some dumb cunt put you on the fence? She's interviewing you?

Older Guys (40+) - HungJohnson69 - 01-04-2016

Quote: (01-04-2016 07:36 PM)scubadude Wrote:  

I'm three years away from 40 but going to sneak in here for this. Those of you that are balding have you considered the high end hair systems (toupee's) to trim a decade or more off or even just for a different look? It seems like you can get a pretty undetectable one for a few hundred bucks.
I experimented with hair pieces (from Toplace) almost 10 years ago for a while. They kind of worked, but it was a huge hassle to use them and make them look natural, especially since I only had a partial (frontal) hair piece. Of course you can go to a professional and make him do most of the hard work for you. If you have the $$$. Or €€€.

But it's not too expensive to experiment with them, if you order them from affortable places and do all the maintenance yourself. Time-consuming and frustrating maybe, but expensive not...

Older Guys (40+) - Turnus - 01-04-2016

Lots of great discussion regarding age. In a somewhat similar vein, how truthful are you about kids? I'm recently divorced, 3 kids that I have 60/40 custody of (in favor of me). Are you typically honest about your devil spawn?

Older Guys (40+) - DD2015 - 01-05-2016

I don't agree about lying about your age. It shows you have a lack of confidence. It can also lead to non-congruence which they will spot a mile off even if they can't put their finger on it.

Younger girls who like older guys don't care at ALL, and you can always list your age as 39. As others [incl me] have found 30 is the same as ~40 to them. They just want you to be over 25-27 and have a job where you can buy them something non-pizza non-Mickey Ds.

Frankly, from talking to college girls the guys who do the worst online are the younger guys. I've flat out told girls they were exactly half my age and it didn't stop them from stripping down and kneeling down in front of me.

Plus online you can see if they're getting fat or not and screen them out. You should be the one screening them for age and looks, not the reverse. If you're 41 and want to say you're 39, I understand that. But shaving 10 years off is a bit silly if you have self-confidence in your value.

Older Guys (40+) - ksbms - 01-05-2016

I see no problem with guys subtracting 5-10 years. Some girls just have a strict rule not to sleep with guys much older without giving it much thought. We do apply white lies every step of the way to enhance ourselves in front of the others.

What if, with a male age for a female is like for male to learn a female has been in a gangbang without anyone wearing protection and her notch count is > 50? It's often understood most females decrease their notch count to be more appealing and we, for young girls, decrease our age to look more appealing.

It's essential from evolutionary perspective to make yourself as attractive as you can in order to spread your genes (and capacity to 'tweak up a reality' shows one can use their intelligence further than others). As long as we don't use people, to use Kantian perspective, as means to ends but as ends in themselves and no-one suffers, then some untruths can be justified.

One can apply some form of consequentialism in this case. Looking back, a girl will rather benefit from an experience of having, say, a mini-relationship or a proper one with an older guy, than if she has never had a chance for one due to formal reasons or just due to conformist behaviour under the pressure of her peers.

Besides, formal age correlates only with biological, emotional, and intellectual age, it's not an adequate metric of who a person is. We've met people in their twenties who were mature and in their forties who were nuts.

Actually, I think there's too much focus on the equation age = who you are. As a consequence, it becomes a default, lazy prism through which we judge other people, instead of trying to see them as they really are throughout the day interacting with us and others on a regular basis.

Older Guys (40+) - NASA Test Pilot - 01-06-2016

Nice to see this site with some input from those of us who are a longer in the tooth. I am over 50 myself and I date only those who are 29 and younger (well 98% of the time). The 23-26 range really keeps my engines roaring especially since they have minimum drag. I have found that having status (reputation, power, money) is primary as well as a more youthful look, particularly a more flattened stomach. Ripped abs are possible gentlemen with a good diet and solid exercise, body fat is the issue. As always genetics help, and what they now call solid game is icing on the cake.

Having women seems so much easier to me now than it has been in the last 30 years, I hope that is encouraging. Of course it is different. Women seem to be much weaker now on an internal level, probably due to social decay and a general lack of character. This begs the question of the worthiness of these women to be with any man; much less a man of accomplishment, but you can be the judge of that.

I have touched all seven continents; to include over 150 countries, and have planted my flag is a fair percentage of those counties. My suggestion for the younger guys reading this is to look toward South America, Central America, and South East Asia. Actually, that would still be my suggestion for others as well. If anyone is interested just ask. I have homes on 3 continents and I sail and fly between them.

It is personally very difficult for me to run anything other than ´ I do not give a crap´ game for the females in the US and Canada because they are not worthy of my time unless they are involved in an activity that I am already doing. Some Southern European game can be fun (particularly in Spain and Italy), as well as Eastern European game (particularly in Romania and Ukraine). I find that the beauties of various islands around the world (whether it be the Caribbean, North Pacific, South Pacific or Indian Ocean, the Mediterranean is interesting) to be good fishing prospects as they do not carry as much modern baggage and they seem to handle their baggage in a way that encourages me to allow them to spent more time in my company. My two cents, for what it is worth.

audentis fortuna iuvat.

Older Guys (40+) - ksbms - 01-06-2016

It's understandable that majority of chicks would dig a NASA test pilot!

Older Guys (40+) - LeeEnfield303 - 01-06-2016

Quote: (01-06-2016 10:17 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

It's understandable that majority of chicks would dig a NASA test pilot!

Serious "positional DHV"

Older Guys (40+) - Dantes - 01-06-2016

Quote: (01-06-2016 04:40 AM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  

Nice to see this site with some input from those of us who are a longer in the tooth. I am over 50 myself and I date only those who are 29 and younger (well 98% of the time). The 23-26 range really keeps my engines roaring especially since they have minimum drag. I have found that having status (reputation, power, money) is primary as well as a more youthful look, particularly a more flattened stomach. Ripped abs are possible gentlemen with a good diet and solid exercise, body fat is the issue. As always genetics help, and what they now call solid game is icing on the cake.

Having women seems so much easier to me now than it has been in the last 30 years, I hope that is encouraging. Of course it is different. Women seem to be much weaker now on an internal level, probably due to social decay and a general lack of character. This begs the question of the worthiness of these women to be with any man; much less a man of accomplishment, but you can be the judge of that.

I have touched all seven continents; to include over 150 countries, and have planted my flag is a fair percentage of those counties. My suggestion for the younger guys reading this is to look toward South America, Central America, and South East Asia. Actually, that would still be my suggestion for others as well. If anyone is interested just ask. I have homes on 3 continents and I sail and fly between them.

It is personally very difficult for me to run anything other than ´ I do not give a crap´ game for the females in the US and Canada because they are not worthy of my time unless they are involved in an activity that I am already doing. Some Southern European game can be fun (particularly in Spain and Italy), as well as Eastern European game (particularly in Romania and Ukraine). I find that the beauties of various islands around the world (whether it be the Caribbean, North Pacific, South Pacific or Indian Ocean, the Mediterranean is interesting) to be good fishing prospects as they do not carry as much modern baggage and they seem to handle their baggage in a way that encourages me to allow them to spent more time in my company. My two cents, for what it is worth.

audentis fortuna iuvat.

Where have you been hiding? haha

Thanks for the post. The locations you mentioned are rather well established on the Forum.

If what you are reporting is true, there is a lot that you can contribute to this community.

For starters, perhaps you can talk about your method for meeting women.