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New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Mujeriego - 06-14-2014
My variation of Tuth's method: I choose a venue that is within a ten minute cab ride of my place and leave my car at home (hat tip to Lothario). Two, I always go for a light make out at the venue assuming I'm vibing well with my date. During the course of the date the question of where you live will come up. If it doesn't, ask her and she will ask you the same. I always respond that I live just down the way and took a cab/walked because I don't drink and drive. By the end of the date you should have no problem getting a ride home from them. I tell them where to park when we roll up and we both get out. I give them a tour and save the bedroom for last. Once in the bedroom I pull them into a make out and gently move her backwards until she hits the bed and lays back on it. From there it's yours to lose.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - GenghisKhan - 06-15-2014
Great thread. I actually got a new apartment right downtown (Seinfeld reference intended) just because of this.
1) I loved that comment from one of the post where they'd pour cheap vodka to Grey Goose bottles. I usually love champagnes, and bitches love them too. The $13 Korbel ones work perfectly with 18-22 year olds who have no taste in champagne. I was thinking of maybe using that (or something better) and putting it in a Cristal bottle. HAAHAHA. Talk about a total con. Imagine the line "Have you ever tried Cristal before? You know, the $200 ones they have on music videos?"
2) Great advice on the NO kiss on the first venue. I always have to stop myself from doing this. My male hamster spins at every kissing opportunity and my inner cave man always goes for it. If you do kiss on the first venue though, I'm thinking maybe a follow up line "Sorry I'm uncomfortable. I really don't like making out in public." I think this actually might work to your advantage because you specifically mention the word MAKE OUT. So when you are about to head back to your place, she will just think you only want to make out. I haven't tried it, but will do once I get the date.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - casio - 06-16-2014
Quote: (06-15-2014 11:58 AM)GenghisKhan Wrote:I even use this beforehand as a reason why I want them to come to my place instead of meeting in a bar sometimes:
If you do kiss on the first venue though, I'm thinking maybe a follow up line "Sorry I'm uncomfortable. I really don't like making out in public." I think this actually might work to your advantage because you specifically mention the word MAKE OUT. So when you are about to head back to your place, she will just think you only want to make out. I haven't tried it, but will do once I get the date.
- Her: "Why don't we meet in a bar"
- Me: "I don't like making out in public"
- Her: "Haha, who said we're going to make out"
- Me: "I'm an optimist"
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Rake - 06-22-2014
First of all, long time follower 1st time poster. I want to give a shout out to all of you guys for in large part, making me the man I am today. I was once a former beta male who took the blue pill everyday. Not any more.
This is great stuff and all but I really feel like more than half the battle is getting the meet up in the first place! lol
Once I meet her I feel like I can close like a champ.
Anyone else feel this way?
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - JWLZG - 07-14-2014
Very belated +1 to Tuth for the thread.
Instead of over to your place, what about bouncing to hers if she still pulls out the "I have to be up early for work/class" line? Irrespective of whether it's legit or LMR.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - reaper23 - 07-14-2014
i like to have them meet me outside the front door of my building.
sets the stage for later
then we walk to wherever we are going.
an old school tip: mention a book or something that you know she'd be into. for me its always "Sextrology"
talk about it in the date then say lets get out of here, i want to show you that book
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - BarryInSF - 08-05-2014
Quote: (12-22-2011 03:02 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
Step 4. Absolutely do not kiss her. Do not, I repeat, go for the make-out at the venue.
She has iron-clad plausible deniability that all you're looking for is a private place to make out with her, that's all. Because nothing's happened so far, she feels a lot less committed about going over to your place than if you'd already made out and the next thing on the escalation hierarchy has to be sexual.
Brilliant.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - burownidl - 12-28-2014
Quote: (03-13-2014 12:06 AM)Phoenux Wrote:
I tried Tuth's recipe last night. Met a cute chick off Tinder, 6.5 with awesome breasts, had my place nice and clean, suggested a bar within walking distance from my place, told her the first round's on me (she bought the 2nd one), bounced back to my place after, waited about 15 minutes before the make-out, moved to the bedroom, killed the LMR (thanks McQueen for that) and smashed.
I am adopting this as my new template for dates
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Hey Phoenux....could describe the LMR and what are McQueens tactics to overcome?
Thx
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Roardog - 01-25-2015
Tried this for the first time last night as my housemates are away and it worked brilliantly despite my admittedly rough execution.
Met this 6.5 Chinese law grad (good body does her squats but face is only OK) chick off Tinder last year but due to us both travelling over the Christmas and New Year period we hadn't managed to meet up.
Then the date I had for Sunday night cancelled so I hit up some other girls to see if they were free and this one was and agreed to grab a drink with me.
I wasn't overly optimistic as she said she'd just had 2 wisdom teeth out and so wouldn't be drinking or talking much but I decided to take a punt.
I organize to meet her at my usual bar 10 minutes walk from my place and I don't leave mine until she texts me and tells me she is there. I reply with my usual "I'm running late". Except this time it was actually true because I couldn't find my wallet and ended up leaving without it.
Got to the bar and had a drink with her which she paid for as I didn't have any money Haha!
Despite me feeling like I wasn't doing a good job She was giving me ioi's like playing with her hair, touching me and body language towards me which I reciprocated but as per Tuths recipe I didn't go for the kiss.
Despite not really having dropped any decent pussy bait to get her back to my place towards the end of our drinks I said "let's get the next round somewhere else".
Then shortly after when we finished them I said "I haven't got any money but I've got beer back at my place and you can have a water so let's head there. "
Amazingly she didn't object at all, just asked how far away and what direction my place was. Then asked if there was parking and could we walk to her car first and then drive it to my place. All of which I was more than happy to agree with.
We walked to her car and drove it back to my place during which I teased her about her diving. Then she asked me to park the car for her near my place which I gave her even more shit for.
We get into my place and I tell her it's shoes off which is good because she is wearing heels and is already my height without them.
I give her the tour and get her situated on the couch with a glass of water and me with a beer. Forgot the music though which I can see why is good to have as it's awfully quiet without some background music.
Chat a bit more with her and talk about my housemates book collection which she likes and is right next to the couch.
I finally go for the kiss but she half rejects me citing her wisdom teeth and not being able to really open her mouth. From there I go with the tried and true player method for busting LMR of 2 steps forward 1 step back. She finally gets into it and unbutton my shirt at which point I cave man her to my bedroom.
After we bang I get the "omg I can't believe that happened! " "I don't normally do this" blah blah. As per Tuths post I play nice and say yeah, didn't expect that to happen, etc.
I'm glad I finally got to give this a try and I can't believe it worked first time with my average execution but it's awesome that it did.
I've got 3 new dates coming up this week and going to try this on all of them.
Thanks again Tuth!
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - mindanao - 02-17-2015
Quote: (02-07-2012 04:47 PM)Caligula Wrote:
This thread is gold.
I have learned more in this thread than I think I could have learned in any other thread. The things like bring home prop and detailed run down on actual steps to take in escalation, it is like a better version of any other 'complete' resource for learing all the game steps. This thread alone is what will make my experiences improve dramatically. The OP only became part of what would end up being loads of new, and unusually helpful info from users that otherwise would not have been posted anywhere.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Roardog - 02-17-2015
Quote: (12-22-2011 03:02 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
Step 10. Damage Control.
If you're like me, you prefer to bang prospects a few times (rather than once). Call me a romantic. If that's also your goal, you want to be prepared to do a little bit of damage control on the rapid bang. (Keep in mind that you will have banged this girl with three or four hours.) That doesn't mean you have to assuage every weird little emotion she may be going through, it just means you have to go back to being your cool, charming self for a while. It should be seamless.
This is probably cheesy (and unnecessary), but I sometimes throw this in at the end: "Whoa. I didn't expect that to happen."
This part I need help with.
I've followed this recipe half a dozen or more times now and it's only not worked on 1 girl.
However what I am finding is that most of the girls get buyers-remorse very quickly after the bang and while I have played it cool and tried to do damage control I haven't been able to get most of them back for a second bang. Most of them I don't care about banging again but a couple of them have been good bangs that I'd like to experience again.
For those of you like Tuth who want to bang these girls again, what techniques or things do you do/say to calm the hamster post-bang and how do you follow up to see them again?
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - MY DETROIT PLAYAS - 02-18-2015
Try making tentative plans to do something
Hopefully during the hangout session, you've dropped some bait or connected on a mutual interest so now that you've scored you can seed another hang out by weaving that into your post bang convo
This is a technique that I use sometimes to soothe thoughts of a one/done buyer's remorse, and get her percolating for another hang out
Of course - we both know how that movie is going to end at the conclusion of the night...
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Travesty - 02-18-2015
^ Roardog
Tough anyway you slice to bang a chick within a couple hours and keep comfort. I'd say from my experience having a decent fun conversation after sex that brings things back to normal is your best shot. I have a hard time putting on the act that this never happens cause I know these hoes ain't loyal and get around. If I don't find the chick really hot I can't be bothered after the bang I don't care if she feels like a slut. I guess repeat business isn't a big deal for me.
A worst case would be you fuck and pass out she leaves first thing in the morning after or she leaves home right after bang...
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Midas - 02-18-2015
Wow! Great post...I'm so glad I found this forum!!! I've developed a similar 'system' over the years for mostly online game. Since the chicks are usually more than half my age, the dominance frame def. helps, and with some solid texting + subtle or not so subtle innuendo they're already dtf. LMF is very rare, and alcohol usually isn't even necessary. But yeah, it's pretty much just a step by step process w/very few variables. 99% of it is just seeding ideas through texting as plausible deniability for getting them back to the crib. We both know it's totally on though, and sometimes I'll even tell them to pack an overnight bag. With out of state chicks flying in for the wknd, it's even easier!!!
I'm def. looking forward to applying some of TUTH's system to 'real world' non-online game as I start transitioning more into that style next yr., setting up a legit bachelor pad in downtown Tampa. Currently, I've got a big single-family home in the DC suburbs, which is both good and bad for game. Something else I'll mention: just over this past yr. or so I've actually started gaming some online chicks and flying to their city, banging them out in hotels. After being so reliant on props, home field advantage, following a sequence of steps, etc. it feels pretty liberating and empowering to take one's game on the road, so to speak. All players should mix things up too, just to keep from getting lazy, while giving the inner game a fresh surge every once in awhile.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - casio - 02-18-2015
Quote: (02-17-2015 09:54 PM)Roardog Wrote:
However what I am finding is that most of the girls get buyers-remorse very quickly after the bang and while I have played it cool and tried to do damage control I haven't been able to get most of them back for a second bang.
If you want her to come over repeatedly(*)
- make sure you banged her good. As in: she will be thinking about you when she wakes up in the morning (in a good way) and tell her best friends about you.
- don't kick her out right after the bang. Let her cuddle a bit or talk while having another drink. Use this time to engage her emotionally. Soften up a bit, you already got her. Tel her something that she'll remember about you
- send a message the next morning. Something short but silly/fun/easy that relates to a conversation you had.
(*) I do this depending on my wanting them to come back or not. When I don't care, I try to kick them out asap. If I like them as a person and enjoy their company, I do the following stuff. This works well for me, sometimes even too well because they often end up wanting a relationship - which is when I usually start breaking contact.
Quote: (02-18-2015 03:17 AM)Midas Wrote:That's the great thing about this. You can use it perfectly for online dates, but use the exact same stuff later on when you invite a girl over that you meet at the club/a bar/daygame or whatever. It's completely independent of your way of approach, and solely about converting them to bangs.
I'm def. looking forward to applying some of TUTH's system to 'real world' non-online game as I start transitioning more into that style next yr.
It includes the deniability, the setup, the performance, and the prestige.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - redbeard - 02-28-2015
"I often get the psychology set up ahead of time too, adding something like this to my text, "let's start [emphasis added for the purposes of this post] at XYZ Lounge. We can always bounce somewhere else if its lame.""
This is one of the most important parts to me.
I have a hard time initially communicating my attitude and humor over text, but sending this text INSTANTLY lets her know that
-I like adventure
-I'm OK with failure
-I take initiative
This line is especially clutch if you are "the away team," in a new city, taking new girls to places that you've never been.
If the date involves a venue change, I make sure to hold her hand while walking to the second venue. If I'm firing on all cylinders, I will get outside the first venue, put my hand out, and say "let's go." This is a congruence test and further communicates that I'm in charge.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - QuietDog - 03-08-2015
So someone already asked this question but they got shot down with no answer so hopefully someone can help me out here. So due to my logistics there will be some dates I go on where I know I won't be getting the first date bang. This is because I rent a room from an older couple (who are actually super cool, give me free food and are actually pretty red pill) so if I bring a girl back to the house and they're still up its not like I can ask them to scram from THEIR living room. So with this in mind how far should I try to take something on a first date I know isn't ending with the bang? Should I try and get myself into her place somehow? Advice would be much appreciated
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - overhoes - 03-08-2015
1. have floor swept.
2. Have bed made .
3. have cold water in fridge .
4 . Chicks dig good new school rap on the radio.
5. Tp redily available if your bum gun bum is low pressure (thailand only)
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - AneroidOcean - 03-08-2015
Quote: (03-08-2015 01:51 AM)QuietDog Wrote:
So someone already asked this question but they got shot down with no answer so hopefully someone can help me out here. So due to my logistics there will be some dates I go on where I know I won't be getting the first date bang. This is because I rent a room from an older couple (who are actually super cool, give me free food and are actually pretty red pill) so if I bring a girl back to the house and they're still up its not like I can ask them to scram from THEIR living room. So with this in mind how far should I try to take something on a first date I know isn't ending with the bang? Should I try and get myself into her place somehow? Advice would be much appreciated
Watch a movie in your room on a laptop or small TV. You want to be somewhere where you can close the door if old people are going to be around anyway.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - s3k - 03-08-2015
Any ideas on variations on going to her place? In my current situation, I cannot go back to my place. I've tryed roosh's "i'll walk youhome to make sure you get home ok" Followed with "Can I use your bathroom" but to no avail. I'm interested with any idea how I can get us back to HER place? I've tryed logistics next to HER place, but I usually get the "I don't know you enough" or "my place is too messy" shit tests. Any help greatly appreciated.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - forever_beta - 03-09-2015
Earlier some people asked about non-alcoholic venues. I had some success back in the day on OK cupid dates taking girls to play a game such as pool or bowling. The great thing about this is that you're competing playing a game so you can tease each other. Its also dirt cheap lol. Whenever an awkward lull or silence in the conversation happens you can pause and shoot another round or 2 before re-engaging. You don't even have to be good at the game (I suck at both), just be fun and playful, normal stuff. I think something like this could work better with younger girls, esp under 21 who can't get into bars. I think pool is better because you can be facing each other across the table while playing, making it easier to talk and get the eye contact thing going.
Play with her, tease her, touch and flirt. Somewhere in the middle casually drop the bait about the cool pictures / videos / drinks whatever at your place and then take her there at the end. Or you can venue change first to a local park or some other nice outdoor space to walk and talk.
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Any ideas on variations on going to her place?
One time I was out on a date with a girl in her part of town. At the end of a night of heavy making out outside she wanted it but was giving strong LMR. I told her I was going to go home but I asked her if we could stop at her place first because I needed to lookup directions on google maps on how to get home (This was luck, I really did need those directions!). Her computer was in her bedroom. We make it onto the bed first and you know what happens next.
This was before iphones though, so its probably not really doable today.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - simondice - 03-31-2015
Has anybody tried the "come over for a drink" telling her to come straight home? No date?
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - CleanSlate - 03-31-2015
Quote: (03-31-2015 04:47 PM)simondice Wrote:
Has anybody tried the "come over for a drink" telling her to come straight home? No date?
I think there is a Zero Date Bang thread.. can't remember who wrote that post.
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - Isaac Jordan - 03-31-2015
Quote: (03-31-2015 04:49 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:
Quote: (03-31-2015 04:47 PM)simondice Wrote:
Has anybody tried the "come over for a drink" telling her to come straight home? No date?
I think there is a Zero Date Bang thread.. can't remember who wrote that post.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-28403.html
New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs - ikemen - 04-17-2015
My logistics have always been fairly reasonable but reading and applying Tuthmosis' method REALLY amplified for me what a guy is capable of. Used it reflectively and secured the bang with a girl last night on first meeting (online)
To share my application of some parts of the theory:
Quote:Quote:In line with the above, I purposely waited until the day before to set up the final details, correcting a shortcoming that has led to previous flakes. But she still tried to flake. Here's the convo:
Step 1. Angle your date for optimal logistics.
Of course, it goes without saying that you should have observed all of the Game 101 requirements: setting the date up at a time after standard dinner time, keeping your texts functional and minimalist, and waiting to set up the final details until the day of the date (so you have an excuse to ping the girl via text, and thereby minimize flaking).
Me: "Hey name...fun times this week?"
Her: "Hello hello. Have had a ridiculous week! So exhausted, might have to be annoying and postpone drinks til Sunday or Monday. How's yours been?"
Me: "A bit worn out from the Tinder dates?
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I was going to follow up by saying I have a perfect 90 minute gap to fill from 830 between a mate's dinner and a night on the town. Think you could pluck up some pep to be my charming and attractive Friday gap filler?!"(Note: I went a bit heavy on the cheese due to the context of our earlier chats being purposely like this [and me already identifying that she seemed to be charming one]. But the main thing with this making her seem like not the focus of my night - pure indifference. Relieves pressure for her on it escalating too quickly)
Her: "Haha totally the reason. 90 minutes is a very specific amount of time, bit of a stickler for organisation are we?
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Where are you thinking?" (LOL if you follow Tuthmosis' method, it completely makes me a stickler for organisation. Smart girl!)Me: "I have it planned down to the exact minute when you buy us a second round
we can start at xxxx place in xx area"Her: "On the assumption that you're interesting enough to warrant a second drink
OK I know xxxxx"Me: "As long as you're entrancing enough to warrant the first I can live with that. 830 it is."
Flake averted, date set at a good time of night after dinner.
Quote:Quote:See texts above for the whole concept of rounds. Instilling this quickly is important with online dates I find as it can either get too platonically friendly OR she expects you treat her like a princess.
Step 2. Get a round of drinks at your first venue.
Don't fuck around with making her buy her own drink or some other principled bullshit. At the same time, don't fall into being her free-refills fountain for the night.
Quote:Quote:My subtle neo-kino has become strong because I always hated that early 2000s overly overt stuff. This time I decided on-the-fly to weave my story-telling into the concept of touching after an anecdote about dealing with 1st graders (where there is a huge pressure on male teachers in Western countries to be inhumanely cold toward students - ie they randomly cling onto your calf because they're 5 years old and you have to kick them off instantly and nervously look around to see if any feminazis saw).
Step 3. Build some old-school comfort, using generous amounts of "neo-kino"
-Gradually invade her personal space as if she's succeeding in getting you interested. If you do it right, she will reciprocate.
-I touch her legs and arms with the back of the hand for emphasis on certain points
-I high-five her upon cool discoveries about her (in a calm, un-douchey, not-over-enthusiastic way); if she likes a band I like, for instance, I give her a high five
-A couple of times--emphasis on a couple of times--I hold eye contact for a little bit while talking, like I'm telepathically telling the bitch that, "I'm going to make out with [her] soon"
Meanwhile, during the conversation portion, I've talked up--among other things--the bar in my apartment or some "new drink" that "I've learned to make." I'm not pushing it, I just drop the seed and move on. This doesn't have to be a drink, but it's what I use. Just insert your pad into the conversation somehow, so you can have a fake "aha! moment" about it later.
Spoke about her desires to travel to Spain, and I wondered if that's because she has a thing for Spaniard dudes? She laughed and said not really but maybe...I touched her on the arm and said, "Sorry to ruin your fantasy but despite some Mediterranean blood in me I'm not Spanish" Talked about La Tomatino (tomato fight festival) and how sexually charged the atmosphere is - with the Europeans generally being open about touch.
She said, "Europeans are definitely more handsy"
Me: "Then that must be in my bloodline as I've been told I'm handsy...in a good way"
Her: "You are (smiling)"
Barely an hour in to first laying eyes on this girl, this was the extended, "I'm gonna fuck you" eye contact from when I knew the lay was in the bag dependent on logistics and LMR. I've not overtly referenced my kino behavior before, but in an effort to be more direct in a calibrated, relaxed way, it was a killer moment and something I'll add to my arsenal depending on the situation.
To embed apartment related talk, I asked if she was the kinda girl who keeps her roomies up by excitedly playing music late, or keeps it to herself with headphones in a quiet corner. She confirmed that she didn't have roommates and then asked me what my situation was like
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Haha...it was seamlessly integrated so that she didn't feel like overeager in asking about my pad. But as Tuthmosis recommended, everything I said here was quick seeds and then we moved on. Quote:Quote:Here's a big difference with the way I have done things. I try to shift her to a quiet couch in the corner, some bench outside on the street near the bar, and even a city park. It'll involve my kino getting extra obvious, then makeout which often ends that way.
Step 4. Absolutely do not kiss her. Do not, I repeat, go for the make-out at the venue.
This is the counter-intuitive part. There will be a logical time where it seems like you should, and could, go for the escalating make-out. Ideally, this will be around the time you've finished off a slow-paced first round of drinks. If you've played your logistics correctly, you will have settled your tab (by not opening one in the first place) on the first round, so you're free to leave the venue at any point.
But this time I told her that we should keep moving (because our arses are getting flat, sitting on stools) and was heading back to mine anyway (the "hitting the town" I seeded earlier) and I have more drinks there. There was some resistance, but I hit it back by saying how much I enjoyed the 90 mins (as earlier stipulated) and that it would be remiss of me not to extend it for another hour or so.
She verbally hesitated, so I just stood up calmly, smiled and said, "Come on." as if it was a very normal thing. That's all it took.
Quote:Quote:Caught a taxi to mine because it was slightly drizzling, and because it was already 10pm and I had the whole going out caveat to handle, logistically it made huge sense. She paid for half of it though. And taxi banter is a bit easier than walking banter at night I find.
Step 5. Keep up the energy from the first venue on the move to your place.
This is important, and where I believe most guys go wrong on the move to their place. Having had only one drink, this girl is not intoxicated and she's going to the apartment of a dude she's known for an aggregate of maybe two hours, if that. Her hamster is going to be working on overdrive and you need to strangle that little bastard before he fucks you up.
Quote:Quote:LOVED the shoeless house thing, contrasted with the messiness thing. She commented after the bang on the loving my playlist (slow alternative rock and acoustic), and we discovered we both have a passion for the same album! (Brand New's, The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me. Cool chick)
Step 6. Get her comfortable and situated in your spot.
I have the same exact routine when I come into my place with a girl. It's so similar that I sometimes feel a little dirty and guilty about it. Mostly, though, I feel like I'm going to work.
We come in; I tell them it's a "shoeless house"; I wait for them to take off their boots (and wait for them to comment about how their socks don't match, which they always do); I apologize for the "mess" because I "didn't expect to have guests" (bullshit, of course); and I give them "the tour"--which is also pre-scripted. I tell them to sit down on my couch (which is also my bed) and "get comfortable." I start the same exact playlist iTunes on my big multimedia setup and go to work on the same one or two drinks I know how to make.
Quote:Quote:Here's what I noticed. Because the date was ONLY 90 minutes with no time using location change or pre-bang-location make out attempt, there's was still plenty of steam and energy in our conversation. It made it so easy to maintain that chilled 12 minutes of harmless convo that built comfort and also made her wonder what she was doing there.
Step 7. Give her the drink, sit down, and go back to work.
Now you're in the home stretch, player. You're comfortable and isolated. It gets easy from here. I usually sip the drink with her and chat for another 10-12 minutes; just long enough for her to barely start to wonder if I'm actually not going to make a move. "Is this guy actually atttracted to me? Is he a pussy? He seems into me, though. What the fuck?" Then, if she hasn't set her drink down herself already, I take her drink, set it on the coffee table, and start the make out.
Now Tuthmosis.....taking her drink away is PRICELESS!!!! Best advice in the whole thread. In other situations, I find the kiss moment a bit of an unknown quantity. Either it's a logistical problem like her head is just not facing you due to shyness, or she's not ready.
But when I took a big sip then put my drink down she could see that I was clearly up to something. When I casually and wordlessly took hers, set it down then turned back toward her it was unmistakable. Lean in and BAM. It even felt like she was someone I'd dated a long time and thought nothing of being affectionate with.
I will ALWAYS do this from now on
Quote:Quote:Did the return to drinks thing which she loved, and escalated smoothly. There was no need for the D move with this girl as over the course of the last couple of hours she had gotten pretty excited for me.
Step 8. Escalate like a champ.
This is where your old friend plausible deniability goes to bat for you. She only "expected" a private little make-out session--since you smartly left that token in your pocket--but if your make-out game is tight, you're a master at smoothly rounding those bases. Escalate expertly, like the goddamn RVF champ that you are. Because my couch doubles as a bed, I lay them out and go to town. I deflect LMR by periodically coming back up for "a sip of our drinks," before going back to work and advancing the ball upfield each time.
Quote:Quote:I fucked her right by going down on her first (which I love), used a bit of roughplay (neck holding she LOVED) and made her come twice. It's just about pacing yourself. If you're going to put 2 hours into date stuff, you should put at least two into foreplay/oral/sex/after sex touching. I don't get guys who just go hell for leather like a race, but they make it better for the rest of us.
Step 9. Bang.
I don't need to remind you to make sure you put it down respectably, at least. Even if you're not a sex god, make it memorable.
Quote:Quote:I probably could have done this better, but I was generally charming and shared things about myself and asked about her. Turns out she barely uses Tinder because most guys bore her and she feels nothing for them. She's very selective she told me. Makes it all the sweeter.
Step 10. Damage Control.
If you're like me, you prefer to bang prospects a few times (rather than once). Call me a romantic. If that's also your goal, you want to be prepared to do a little bit of damage control on the rapid bang. (Keep in mind that you will have banged this girl with three or four hours.) That doesn't mean you have to assuage every weird little emotion she may be going through, it just means you have to go back to being your cool, charming self for a while. It should be seamless.
Due to the speediness of it all I'm hoping she'll show up again for more casual fun. Great body and enthusiasm.
100% of thanks goes to Tuthmosis for tidying up the loose ends of my on-date game! Hope some of you can learn something from my annotated application of the method.