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Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Fighting888 - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 06:16 AM)Deluge Wrote:
@Fighting888
The Census asks people to declare their ancestry, not a nationality. Anglo-Indian's are counted separately from Indians, don't know about Pakistani's (they're small in number anyway). Sri Lankan isn't counted as an ethnic group according to the Census (because it isn't one), notice I said Sinhalese specifically in gen 1 had a higher intermarriage rate than Indians (who are already at >50% in gen 2), no Burgher (or Tamil) would ever write down Sinhalese as their ethnicity on a census form because that's not their ethnicity. Same way a Bosnian Serb would never write down that they're a Bosniak. Intermarriage varies heavily by religion, for Muslims and Sikh's it's uncommon but the vast majority of Indian/Lankan Catholics (not mixed, their ancestors were converted by missionaries) do. There's a lot of the former in the U.K and a lot of the later in Australia.
Anglo-Indian is an ancestry - white/Indian mix.
As is Burgher, White-Sinhalese mix. Australia allows you to write down multiple ancestries on the Census. That's how 17% of Indians had multiple ancestry.
The main point is that the US and UK have much larger data sets to work with for Indians.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Deluge - 12-02-2014
You don't know what you're talking about. Being Anglo-Indian is not the same as just being a White-Indian mix, and Burgher not the same as being White-Sinhalese/Tamil, and no Burgher would ever tick the Sinhalese/Lankan-Tamil box as well as their own because they are completely separate ethnic identities. That's like saying African Americans tick English in the American census because they're ~20% white. I'm done responding to you.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Fighting888 - 12-02-2014
Australia has approximately 23,000 residents of Sinhalese ancestry and 31,000 residents of Pakistani ancestry. http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/censush...navpos=450
Hardly large numbers to extrapolate from.
Anglo-Indian from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Indian
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The Anglo-Indian community in its modern sense is a distinct, small minority community originating in India. It consists of people from mixed British and Indian ancestry whose native language is English. An Anglo-Indian's British ancestry was usually bequeathed paternally.
Burgher from wikipedia:
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The Burgher people are a Eurasian ethnic group, historically from Sri Lanka, consisting mainly of male-line descendants of European colonists from the 16th to 20th centuries (mostly Portuguese, Dutch, German and British) and local women, with some minorities of Swedish, Norwegian, French and Irish. The name is not to be confused with the English word "burgher" which simply means a person who resides in a borough, or a member of the middle class.
Today the native language of the Burghers is English, but historically other languages were spoken, in particular the Sri Lanka Indo-Portuguese, a creole language based on Portuguese, Tamil, and Sinhala
African-Americans with white ancestry do check multiple boxes. T
The Australian Census does allow you to check 2 ancestries, if you wish.
I agree that there's no point in arguing the point further.
However, I've provided data from the UK Census and US Census. Given much larger South Asian populations in these countries (approximately 20 times as many South Asians live in the UK/US vs Australia), it might be worth looking at that data.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - bojangles - 12-02-2014
Oh gosh, I don't care about interracial marriage, none of us give a fuck about getting married right now. We just wanna fuck hot bitches.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Deluge - 12-02-2014
You don't even know what Anglo-Indian and Burgher actually mean, or what I meant when I said African Americans are 20% white, it's pretty obvious English isn't your first language, hence why I know you're a Pakistani troll.
To clarify for people reading along so they don't get confused by this, if an English dude had kids with an Indian girl in London today no one would consider those kids Anglo-Indian, it's it's own designation from colonial times where they only married one another and became their own ethnicity. Also there's a lot more than 20k Sinhalese in Australia, way more than Pakistani's.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Fighting888 - 12-02-2014
English isn't my first language? Ok, buddy. Whatever you say. I have to wonder who's trolling who.
If you bothered reading my posts, I specifically noted that British Pakistanis have lower rates of intermarriage than British Indians and lower rates of participation in sports. I also noted that they have similar genetic makeup to Indians, in that study from Scotland that I cited. I've been fairly critical towards immigration and Islam in a lot of topics. You must've overlooked that when you concluded what ancestry you believe me to come from.
2011 Australian Census allows you to check multiple ancestries. 23,000 checked Sinhalese in Australia. A larger number checked Sri Lankan, but that includes many Tamil-speaking refugees.
As for African-Americans, a lot of them do check multiple ancestries. A 20% white Afro-American probably acquired his ancestry from a intermarriage with mulattos somewhere in his family tree, but a 20% AA is different from a half white-half Indian Anglo-Indian. Anglo-Indians were an inbreeding caste, while African-Americans generally freely intermarried. You can't compare the two identities. Especially since a lot of African-Americans don't know their family trees that well and there was a lot of hushing up about white males having illegitimate children with black female slaves. It's not really comparable.
Anyway, let's assume you are right. I'm wrong. What about the US and UK data sets? As I mentioned, there are 15-20 times the number of South Asians in those countries. Should we ignore them?
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Fighting888 - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 06:58 AM)bojangles Wrote:
Oh gosh, I don't care about interracial marriage, none of us give a fuck about getting married right now. We just wanna fuck hot bitches.
I cited some statistics on interracial cohabitation for British South Asians.
For British South Asian youth males, their lifetime probability of interethnic cohabitation is 8.3%. Indians slightly higher, Bangladeshis intermediate, and Pakistanis lower. For the Chinese British males, interethnic cohabitation rates are significantly higher than for South Asians.
For British South Asian youth females, their lifetime interethnic cohabitation probability is 6.8%. Again, Indians higher, Bangladeshis intermediate, Pakistanis far lower.
If we include same-race cohabitation (ie South Asian male and South Asian female), then the figure for males are 17% and females are 15.5%. For Indians, the figures are closer to 20% roughly, for both Indian males and Indian females.
The above figures only apply to current unmarried South Asian British youth and exclude older married people. The figures are based on cohabitation data from the 2011 UK Census. I'd take these figures as a fair proxy for dating/sexual behavior for British South Asians.
For comparison, 80-90% of white British will cohabit before marriage. Which is a huge cultural difference between whites and South Asians.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - El Chinito loco - 12-02-2014
Serious question, does hammering away at these statistics in any way improve your life or well being as an individual?
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - bojangles - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 08:16 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2014 06:58 AM)bojangles Wrote:
Oh gosh, I don't care about interracial marriage, none of us give a fuck about getting married right now. We just wanna fuck hot bitches.
I cited some statistics on interracial cohabitation for British South Asians.
For British South Asian youth males, their lifetime probability of interethnic cohabitation is 8.3%. Indians slightly higher, Bangladeshis intermediate, and Pakistanis lower. For the Chinese British males, interethnic cohabitation rates are significantly higher than for South Asians.
For British South Asian youth females, their lifetime interethnic cohabitation probability is 6.8%. Again, Indians higher, Bangladeshis intermediate, Pakistanis far lower.
If we include same-race cohabitation (ie South Asian male and South Asian female), then the figure for males are 17% and females are 15.5%. For Indians, the figures are closer to 20% roughly, for both Indian males and Indian females.
The above figures only apply to current unmarried South Asian British youth and exclude older married people. The figures are based on cohabitation data from the 2011 UK Census. I'd take these figures as a fair proxy for dating/sexual behavior for British South Asians.
For comparison, 80-90% of white British will cohabit before marriage. Which is a huge cultural difference between whites and South Asians.
You're missing the point, I don't care about cohabitation or marriage as I'm banging girls not making them into my life long partners.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - kaotic - 12-02-2014
Just ignore him, he did the same exact thing in the old IRT thread and a few others, nothing like copy pasta.
I don't know what his agenda is on this forum, but let's get back to the OP's original thought and how to do it:
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As an Indian man, but foremost as a man, don’t rest on your ancestors’ laurels. Build your own experiences. Meet other people. Learn about them and learn from them. Be genuine with others, and get to know them at a deeper level by comparing and contrasting your experiences. There are some cool people out there. Open them up. And show them how cool you are. Be proud of who YOU are as an Indian man, not who others were as Indian men.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - TheSlayer - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 11:43 AM)kaotic Wrote:
Just ignore him, he did the same exact thing in the old IRT thread and a few others, nothing like copy pasta.
Yes! Let's stop feeding the troll.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Dalaran1991 - 12-02-2014
A bit late to the discussion and have read only the first 6 pages, I stopped when people start throwing racial definition and statistics around. My 1cent comment:
I used to worry a shit ton about me being East Asian and still do to a lesser degree. Let's not kid ourselves, being Indian or any kind of Asian (shit, being anything but white) make it harder to game. It's a fact just like being handsome make it easier, and you don't really need to read a library to know how much it suck.
But then what's the point of hashing over the details? It's not gonna help your game that much, and most of the advice that help actually all come down to "run a game as tight as possible".
I know very few Asian players and the only one who actually has consistent success with women of all types, he doesnt sugar coat it. Being Asian/Indian trying to game white girls is like playing video game on Legendary mode while the white guys are cruising it at Normal mode. Does it change your game tactics? Not that much, you just have to get the basics down really tight and pay a lot more attention to the details. You will die a lot more often but every victory you earn, you know fucking well you deserve it.
As for all the cultural heritage and self-identification, to each his own, but I find myself unable to identify with my own people or any race for that matter. You can say "we american did this and that, you indian did this and that" but really? You and I didn't do it, our ancestors did and I dont feel a bragging right about something other people do. Thats feminist thinking. If a girl feel like knowing more about my culture I treat it exactly as when she asks me how I learn salsa. Its another topic of discussion and nothing personal.
There will be a shit ton of girls who will reject you outright just because you are of a certain race and thats fine. There are also girls who like to have a certain race flag and thats fine also. I found that the few white girls Ive had success with they never even mention the word "asian" at all. Thats when I realized that how my race affects my game has nothing to do with me and more to do with the girl herself, and if thats the case I couldnt give a flying fuck since its her problem. My only goal is to tighten my game as much as I could and have the most fun out of it, which I am.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - zidhai89 - 12-02-2014
I suppose that is your experience Dalaran and that's great. A breath of fresh air in an otherwise fucked up thread derailed by an idiot who probably got sodomized by an Indian dude.
My 2 cents, I have never ever ever found my race to be a barrier. If anything I have found that simply being 'non white' in a place like Thailand which is filled with white tourists raises the curiosity levels. I can't begin to count the number of times I have had women ask me where I'm from and then go 'oh,wow I want to go to the Taj Mahal'. White women do not express themselves as openly but the when they realize that we are not westerners but speak fluent English and dress more or less in their style you can tell they are intrigued. When I was in the UAE I hear similar stories from wealthy Emirati's. White women will fuck anyone as long as you are on the same social level as them. You can't say the same for Arab, Indian and a few Asian countries where the society is still closed off to 'firangs' and other terms that are sometimes used to refer white people in a condescending manner.
I think some people are just insecure, you would get rejected by women of your own race invariably and some point or the other so why perform mental gymnastics to figure out why it is happening when a girl outside your race turns you down. It is idiotic. Race does not matter. We're all playing the same game and being non white in a white country just shot your 'exotic' factor through the roof. Build on it.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Dalaran1991 - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 01:55 PM)zidhai89 Wrote:
I suppose that is your experience Dalaran and that's great. A breath of fresh air in an otherwise fucked up thread derailed by an idiot who probably got sodomized by an Indian dude.
Holy Jesus I'm laughing so hard I'm spitting rice all over my PC screen
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Otherwise I agree with what you say. Plenty of white guys can't get girls to save their asses, and plenty of Asian girls have rejected me outright, so in the end it all comes down to how much you can improve your game.
Long ago when I was still beta I started this thread asking for advice for being Asian:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35934.html
Tons of golden advice in there, but looking back, I realize that all those advice could apply to anyone, not just asian. It all comes down to looking good, showing social awareness/dominance and minimize your weakness or avoid showing it altogether.
It's actually not race-specific at all. It all comes down to being dealt a worse hand than other people, but there's no point in bitching about how life isn't fair. If anything you get a lot more recognition for it, kinda like how a handicapped person wins an olympic medal. The other day I was making out with a smoking white girl in a crepe house, people were giving me distant high fives from everywhere and the owner offered us a free round of drink on the house. Felt like a fucking champ.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - WalterBlack - 12-02-2014
I wonder if Fighting888 is Chinese? There’s a lot of 8’s in his names and some of his articles point to (east) Asians being above South Asians in certain stats.
Quote: (12-02-2014 05:59 AM)Arado Wrote:
Quote: (12-01-2014 02:13 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
I’m not an American, but I say to people I’m not from India, and I’m from UK. With Americans, my accent overrides their perception of my skin colour. They generally see me as British. In China, I was hanging out with white Americans, so I guess the locals saw me as one of them. In Japan a lot of people also thought I was American for some reason.
There’s always women who can’t get past your ethnicity – next them!
This has been said many times before, but being seen with a diverse set of people straight away makes people think you are not a FOB.
To both Walter Black and the Slayer, I appreciate your advice, and I agree that it's spot on in Western countries. Accent and friend circle override ethnicity in the US/Canada/UK. If I was living in the US I wouldn't even post on this thread.
However, I'm talking about ABROAD - East Asia specifically, where Indians do not have the best reputation. How can you be socially deft and handle the ethnicity issue with a girl who is either fascinated/focused on your ethnicity.
I've posted several mock conversations so far and no one has given suggestions about how to handle it when a girl says "you're not American you're Indian!" or "hey tell me about **** related to India!"
Yes, game, fashion, frame, hygiene, etc I'm aware. However, there are a not insubstantial proportion of East Asian women (enough that "next" is not a long term solution) who are closed off to Indians regardless of game but open to Americans. So, what are some good conversational tactics? I think this would be a much more productive discussion than the race trolling statistics above.
An issue with east Asian cultures and their concept of who is Japanese, Korean, Chinese etc. is that it’s based on a person’s race. In Anglosphere countries, the identity is tied to citizenship. It doesn’t compute in their head that a person who is ethnically Indian can be British, American, Canadian etc.
I’ve had Chinese friends tell me, that if you are ethnically Chinese, that “no matter where you were born, you’re Chinese”.
The only exposure to Anglosphere cultures that many east Asians have is Hollywood movies and TV shows. Almost all major roles are played by white or black Americans, and very rarely by Indians, so they base their perceptions off that. They don’t see Indians as being American. The only way this perception would change would be if more film stars were Indian, but there’s not really a demand for it so I doubt it would happen soon.
In the US I’ve interacted extensively with FOB Asians from China, Laos, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Singapore. I try to relate it to something that they may understand. Almost all of them know of are related to east-Asians who were raised in a western country, and they know that they are different to the ones raised in their ancestral countries.
I’ve said this many times, “just like Chinese-Americans and Taiwanese are not like people from China, the same is true for British Indian and people from India. I can speak my parents’ language, and I’m proud of my background, but mentality wise I am basically British. I grew up watching British TV, I have a British sense of humour, many of my friends growing up were white British and I ate British food a lot of the time. Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t”. Something similar might work.
In the US I’ve asked some non-Indian Americans if they’ve seen Bend it Like Beckham, because it’s all about British Indians and the film is pretty well known in the US.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - zidhai89 - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 04:15 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
Something similar might work.
No it won't for the simple fact you are putting too much effort into explaining yourself.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - WalterBlack - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 04:51 PM)zidhai89 Wrote:
Quote: (12-02-2014 04:15 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
Something similar might work.
No it won't for the simple fact you are putting too much effort into explaining yourself.
It's worked for me. How is too it much effort? It takes less than a minute to say all that. A lot of women like British guys and look down on FOB Indians. I emphasise the British part and try to ensure that I don't get bracketed as a FOB Indian.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Saladin - 12-02-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 12:46 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:
A bit late to the discussion and have read only the first 6 pages, I stopped when people start throwing racial definition and statistics around. My 1cent comment:
I used to worry a shit ton about me being East Asian and still do to a lesser degree. Let's not kid ourselves, being Indian or any kind of Asian (shit, being anything but white) make it harder to game. It's a fact just like being handsome make it easier, and you don't really need to read a library to know how much it suck.
But then what's the point of hashing over the details? It's not gonna help your game that much, and most of the advice that help actually all come down to "run a game as tight as possible".
I know very few Asian players and the only one who actually has consistent success with women of all types, he doesnt sugar coat it. Being Asian/Indian trying to game white girls is like playing video game on Legendary mode while the white guys are cruising it at Normal mode. Does it change your game tactics? Not that much, you just have to get the basics down really tight and pay a lot more attention to the details. You will die a lot more often but every victory you earn, you know fucking well you deserve it.
As for all the cultural heritage and self-identification, to each his own, but I find myself unable to identify with my own people or any race for that matter. You can say "we american did this and that, you indian did this and that" but really? You and I didn't do it, our ancestors did and I dont feel a bragging right about something other people do. Thats feminist thinking. If a girl feel like knowing more about my culture I treat it exactly as when she asks me how I learn salsa. Its another topic of discussion and nothing personal.
There will be a shit ton of girls who will reject you outright just because you are of a certain race and thats fine. There are also girls who like to have a certain race flag and thats fine also. I found that the few white girls Ive had success with they never even mention the word "asian" at all. Thats when I realized that how my race affects my game has nothing to do with me and more to do with the girl herself, and if thats the case I couldnt give a flying fuck since its her problem. My only goal is to tighten my game as much as I could and have the most fun out of it, which I am.
Legendary mode is a bit of an exaggeration....
You're not doing yourselves any favors thinking like that. That creates subtle insecurities and you're just creating a bad paradigm for yourself.
This video is probably the best video on the topic(pretty sure I've posted this before but its golden)-
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Arado - 12-03-2014
Quote: (12-02-2014 04:15 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
I wonder if Fighting888 is Chinese? There’s a lot of 8’s in his names and some of his articles point to (east) Asians being above South Asians in certain stats.
An issue with east Asian cultures and their concept of who is Japanese, Korean, Chinese etc. is that it’s based on a person’s race. In Anglosphere countries, the identity is tied to citizenship. It doesn’t compute in their head that a person who is ethnically Indian can be British, American, Canadian etc.
I’ve had Chinese friends tell me, that if you are ethnically Chinese, that “no matter where you were born, you’re Chinese”.
The only exposure to Anglosphere cultures that many east Asians have is Hollywood movies and TV shows. Almost all major roles are played by white or black Americans, and very rarely by Indians, so they base their perceptions off that. They don’t see Indians as being American. The only way this perception would change would be if more film stars were Indian, but there’s not really a demand for it so I doubt it would happen soon.
In the US I’ve interacted extensively with FOB Asians from China, Laos, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Singapore. I try to relate it to something that they may understand. Almost all of them know of are related to east-Asians who were raised in a western country, and they know that they are different to the ones raised in their ancestral countries.
I’ve said this many times, “just like Chinese-Americans and Taiwanese are not like people from China, the same is true for British Indian and people from India. I can speak my parents’ language, and I’m proud of my background, but mentality wise I am basically British. I grew up watching British TV, I have a British sense of humour, many of my friends growing up were white British and I ate British food a lot of the time. Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t”. Something similar might work.
In the US I’ve asked some non-Indian Americans if they’ve seen Bend it Like Beckham, because it’s all about British Indians and the film is pretty well known in the US.
Ok, finally we're getting somewhere. As Dalaran mentioned, there are girls with race flags, girls who reject you outright, and girls who never mention the word "Asian" (or in this case, Indian). The third category is the one I do best with, but as Walter Black mentions above, East Asians tend to link nationality and ethnicity.
I literally just got off the phone with an East Asian girl who was like "Yeah, I guess your passport is American but to me someone is Chinese no matter what there passport is so that means you're Indian." Very frustrating when she was really into the ethnicity while I was playing it down and emphasizing the Americanness.
She is still on for the date, I'm sensing she may have a brown fetish, but Walter Black, would you still use the "Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t" line in this case or in general out and about when you are grilled about your ethnicity? The entire line is a bit long and has the defensive/trying to qualify vibe to it. I'm trying to find some good one liners to access anyone who is anti-Indian (but open to American/Uk/Aus).
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - Cobra - 12-03-2014
Man, fighting888 finally saw to his own demise by focusing in on statistics and implicitly bringing up race in a negative manner. I originally hoped the thread wouldn't go in that direction. May he rest in peace. But speaking of ownership...
And also as to getting back on topic, some good points made above. There are a lot of negative stereotypes we as brown men try to actively avoid. It puts us into defense mode, rather than showing our worth and then our pride. There's a difference between "never forgetting where you came from" and "forgetting where you came from just so you can assimilate into someone's expectations or frame." I know that when I'm actively trying to "not be indian," I will do a bad job observing and therefore reacting to certain cues. I think like in the UK (from what I read), the US will also see more proud brown men that can also be attractive and get quality poon. It's already happening.
I'm drafting a longer post on this based on my own personal experiences. I hate to put theories on the forum without backing it up.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - WalterBlack - 12-03-2014
Quote: (12-03-2014 05:31 AM)Arado Wrote:
Ok, finally we're getting somewhere. As Dalaran mentioned, there are girls with race flags, girls who reject you outright, and girls who never mention the word "Asian" (or in this case, Indian). The third category is the one I do best with, but as Walter Black mentions above, East Asians tend to link nationality and ethnicity.
I literally just got off the phone with an East Asian girl who was like "Yeah, I guess your passport is American but to me someone is Chinese no matter what there passport is so that means you're Indian." Very frustrating when she was really into the ethnicity while I was playing it down and emphasizing the Americanness.
She is still on for the date, I'm sensing she may have a brown fetish, but Walter Black, would you still use the "Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t" line in this case or in general out and about when you are grilled about your ethnicity? The entire line is a bit long and has the defensive/trying to qualify vibe to it. I'm trying to find some good one liners to access anyone who is anti-Indian (but open to American/Uk/Aus).
Sometimes you have to talk out of both sides of your mouth. If she's into Indian stuff, then bring it up. If she's not then don't. Try to read what she says and adjust accordingly. How FOBBy is she? Are you familiar with East Asian cultures? If she’s FOBBy, bring that up. If she’s not, don’t.
You can’t hide the fact that you are Indian, but do shit that right away makes you think that you’re not a FOB. A lot of Americans think Indians are vegetarians and/or don’t drink – so if you’re gonna get appetisers – make sure they’re meat based. The number of East-Asian vegetarian women is tiny. East-Asian FOB women love food, so if you talk about that they love it.
There are a tonne of vegetarian/teetotal FOBs in the US, and that’s how most Indians are perceived. A couple of years ago, I remember having lunch with 2 Chinese FOB coworkers on my first day at my new job, their eyes nearly popped out when they saw me pull out a ham sandwich. A Korean-American guy told me he thought Indians didn’t drink, because he used to work with 2 Indian teetotal FOBs. He was very surprised when I told him that Punjabis are very heavy drinkers.
I almost certainly lost out on a potential bang with a Korean American here:
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On rare occasions me not saying I’m Indian has worked against me in the US. I remember one time a Korean-American woman asking me if I’m Indian in a bar, and I said no – I said I’m British but my parents are from India. I asked her for her number but she walked off. About an hour later in the same bar I saw her making out with a FOB Indian guy on the couch.
If I had said yes, I am Indian, then maybe I could have been the one making out with her instead of the FOB Indian guy.
The "Don’t expect me to act like a guy from India, because I don’t" statement I usually make in phone conversations, a shortened version would be "My parents are from India, but I was born and raised in UK, so I'm basically British." That's about it - if I am asked India related questions, I go with it, if am asked UK related questions, I go with those.
One line I’ve used a couple of times is that “I was white in the UK and I came to the US to work on my tan – it’s going pretty well so far”. I can get away with this because my real first name is English!
Post bang, I sometimes joke with women who've never banged an Indian guy that they get 2 for 1 after they've been with me - British and Indian!
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - xpatplayer - 12-04-2014
I'm going to drop my 2¢ on this topic. Its definitely been overwritten about in this forum and race trolls like IRT & Fighting888 have only made it worse.
Being Indian is not a disadvantage. I thought girls didn't like me because I'm brown, now I realize that it was because I was skinny, unassertive and unkempt.
I started going to the gym, buying better face wash, moisturizer and deodorant and started improving my social skills. My interactions with women became more fruitful and I finally got laid. Not with dimes, but with somewhat cute girls who were into me. That's how the game goes - slay some 5s and 6s before you move on to the attractive girls. My results have improved as of late, just as the game dictates they should.
And as for non-indian girls? In america, girls want to date up when it comes to guys outside their communities or race. That's why regular colored guys do so badly (in general) on tinder, an app predominantly used by white girls. This is a fact - look around and any guy in an interracial relationship is either better-looking or more socially connected than the girl (white guys- east Asian girls excluded. Never figured that one out).
TLDR - Improve yourself and stop worrying about race. If you like girls from another race, become better than the girls you want to bang in ways that matter.
It's holiday season so Merry Banging my friends!
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - WalterBlack - 12-05-2014
Quote: (12-04-2014 12:59 AM)xpatplayer Wrote:
I'm going to drop my 2¢ on this topic. Its definitely been overwritten about in this forum and race trolls like IRT & Fighting888 have only made it worse.
Being Indian is not a disadvantage. I thought girls didn't like me because I'm brown, now I realize that it was because I was skinny, unassertive and unkempt.
I started going to the gym, buying better face wash, moisturizer and deodorant and started improving my social skills. My interactions with women became more fruitful and I finally got laid. Not with dimes, but with somewhat cute girls who were into me. That's how the game goes - slay some 5s and 6s before you move on to the attractive girls. My results have improved as of late, just as the game dictates they should.
Some women are just narrow minded and don’t like certain types of people. Everybody has their preferences. My younger brother was a very good looking guy back in the day, and he told me that when he started college in London, a cute British-Indian woman walked up to him and ask him if he was Sikh. He said No and she walked off. I told him he should have said yes, and banged her.
Quote: (12-04-2014 12:59 AM)xpatplayer Wrote:
And as for non-indian girls? In america, girls want to date up when it comes to guys outside their communities or race. That's why regular colored guys do so badly (in general) on tinder, an app predominantly used by white girls. This is a fact - look around and any guy in an interracial relationship is either better-looking or more socially connected than the girl (white guys- east Asian girls excluded. Never figured that one out).
TLDR - Improve yourself and stop worrying about race. If you like girls from another race, become better than the girls you want to bang in ways that matter.
It's holiday season so Merry Banging my friends!
I agree with your thoughts if a guy is looking for ONS. We all know Tinder, OKC are not the real world. A woman who would say no to a guy online might bang him if she met him in a bar.
My brother’s then girlfriend and now wife told me how stressed out she was about his job. He used to do part time bar work (in UK over 10 years ago) and sometimes women used to write their numbers on pieces of paper and hand them to him. He wasn’t interesting in screwing around (he’s not the player type) so he threw their numbers in the bin. Almost none of these women were Indian.
In the US I tend to find that more educated non-Indian women are open to LTR with an Indian man, because they go to college with many of them. I’ve remarked upon this before, but almost all of the Indian-American guys I went to grad school with married white American women.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - floor7 - 12-05-2014
Quote: (12-05-2014 01:34 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2014 12:59 AM)xpatplayer Wrote:
I'm going to drop my 2¢ on this topic. Its definitely been overwritten about in this forum and race trolls like IRT & Fighting888 have only made it worse.
Being Indian is not a disadvantage. I thought girls didn't like me because I'm brown, now I realize that it was because I was skinny, unassertive and unkempt.
I started going to the gym, buying better face wash, moisturizer and deodorant and started improving my social skills. My interactions with women became more fruitful and I finally got laid. Not with dimes, but with somewhat cute girls who were into me. That's how the game goes - slay some 5s and 6s before you move on to the attractive girls. My results have improved as of late, just as the game dictates they should.
Some women are just narrow minded and don’t like certain types of people. Everybody has their preferences. My younger brother was a very good looking guy back in the day, and he told me that when he started college in London, a cute British-Indian woman walked up to him and ask him if he was Sikh. He said No and she walked off. I told him he should have said yes, and banged her.
Quote: (12-04-2014 12:59 AM)xpatplayer Wrote:
And as for non-indian girls? In america, girls want to date up when it comes to guys outside their communities or race. That's why regular colored guys do so badly (in general) on tinder, an app predominantly used by white girls. This is a fact - look around and any guy in an interracial relationship is either better-looking or more socially connected than the girl (white guys- east Asian girls excluded. Never figured that one out).
TLDR - Improve yourself and stop worrying about race. If you like girls from another race, become better than the girls you want to bang in ways that matter.
It's holiday season so Merry Banging my friends!
I agree with your thoughts if a guy is looking for ONS. We all know Tinder, OKC are not the real world. A woman who would say no to a guy online might bang him if she met him in a bar.
My brother’s then girlfriend and now wife told me how stressed out she was about his job. He used to do part time bar work (in UK over 10 years ago) and sometimes women used to write their numbers on pieces of paper and hand them to him. He wasn’t interesting in screwing around (he’s not the player type) so he threw their numbers in the bin. Almost none of these women were Indian.
In the US I tend to find that more educated non-Indian women are open to LTR with an Indian man, because they go to college with many of them. I’ve remarked upon this before, but almost all of the Indian-American guys I went to grad school with married white American women.
My first post here, but this is pretty true - especially if said woman is an Ivy League or other top 25/elite school grad and is living in large urban area.
However, this subset of woman isn't the HB8 sorority sister from an SEC school so it really depends on what/who you are gunning for.
As an indian-american guy, I've had the most success with jewish 6's and 7's who are ivy grads.
Inside the Prejudices of an Indian Man - bojangles - 12-08-2014
I have no idea how it works in the States, however as I've written before I had no issues when I visited Vegas and LA last year. In fact the only girls I had trouble with was the Russians.