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(12-26-2011 02:31 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

28-36 are prime years of man's life.

Money, self-possession, accomplishment, and your face changes (gets more angular from losing facial fat), making you look more masculine.

Don't forget that a a lot of male decline can be traced to getting married, having kids, and domesticity in general. That shit drops testosterone levels.

Look at a older gay dudes compared to the average straight suburban schlub. Men don't have to peak; with a little bit of conscious effort it's fairly easy to plateau instead.

[Gmac]

(12-29-2011 08:51 AM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(12-29-2011 08:25 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

As women are valued in the sexual marketplace based on youth and beauty and men don't have that problem then following the (half age of the male) + 7 years formula is pretty accurate.

In other words a 40 year old dude (half age = 20) + 7 years therefore has the same value on the sexual marketplace as a 27 year old woman.

This formula seems to coincide well with what is considered to be a man's prime years to many on the forum (mid 20s to mid 40s). A man at ages 25 to 45 would overlap with a woman between about 20 and 30, which is usually when they have their peak in terms of physical attractiveness.

Interesting, in my experience that formula is used for the minimum age you should bang... social acceptability and maturity included.

[michelin]

(12-27-2011 12:09 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(12-27-2011 11:34 AM)Jarocho2003 Wrote:  

I'm 35 and the last three years have been the best...yet I don't feel I'm at my peak yet...

Exactly the same here !!

Same goes for me. girls in the 20-25 range are especially easy targets, as they look for experience with a mature man.

[Deb Auchery]

I'm 35, but an Ectomorph and very young looking, I can easily pass for 8-10 years younger.

I thought I peaked at around 29, but that was in UK. Now i'm in Ukraine and it has blown that theory out of the window, I now have two barely legal girlfriends, and I feel that I can have sex with almost any woman I want.

I think I can keep doing this until i'm 50 as well

[Pilgrim37]

Up till you're 30 status isn't such a big thing,you can be out pulling and pay it no mind.

I'm 39 now and my finances are not good, it has definitely lessened the confidence to go out cold and pick up. In my 20's wouldn't have affected me one bit.

Once you're past 30 I would say priority 1 should be to get your career/finances/direction in life in order.
This will unconciously up your game and confidence in all situations!
You know what you're doing and where you're going and in my experience women,especially women over 25 love that and it attracts them.

[Anon-A-Moose]

The age itself doesn't seem to be important. Game requires logistics, financial stability, and confidence. My uncle's wife left him in his late 50s, he's 63 and fucking college girls on a regular basis (this man is my idol...no better way to say "fuck you" to your ex-wife then fucking women half her age, but I digress...) The age itself is different, though after your late twenties you should have more financial stability.

[Nonpareil]

I'm 28 and doing better than ever, and things are only on the upswing. It's funny when you finally arrive; girls smile at you a little longer, shit tests come at you in bullet time and flaking? She'll come crawling back and you know it so you can make plans with another girl or pour yourself a drink and lamp.

I got into the game around 20, slowly got better, started seeing consistent success around 23 and am now at the point where if I'm out with a group of friends and someone has a new girl he's cuffing her (this got ridiculous when my best friend, a man who's early success gave me the push I needed [this guy has to have fucked 200 broads, or close to it], was not in a relationship, and I would never snake a taken girl from a friend, but motherfuckers be mad insecure, we know this).

As for the girls, the age range when girls are the most susceptible to game (and yet still in the desirable under 30 age bracket)? My own experience jibes very well with the assertion of Roissy: 25-28.

[snoop]

(12-26-2011 12:21 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Depends on the guy. Guys aren't like race horses that generally peak at the same time.

Not only that, but different targets and different locations are going to have different "primes" for each person too.

The whole question is kind of dumb though, its like asking what is the best color or car? It all depends on how you define "best"

[xmlenigma]

(02-18-2012 07:43 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

The age itself doesn't seem to be important. Game requires logistics, financial stability, and confidence. My uncle's wife left him in his late 50s, he's 63 and fucking college girls on a regular basis (this man is my idol...no better way to say "fuck you" to your ex-wife then fucking women half her age, but I digress...) The age itself is different, though after your late twenties you should have more financial stability.

Would like to hear more details about these illustrious UNCLES. !

I'm sure there's stuff we all could learn.

[Excelsior]

Game peak is contextual. For this discussion, I'm going to assume that the defined "peak" for men represents the period for which women in their sexual prime (18-25 or so) are most accessible to them.

For your average citizen of the anglosphere, peak will probably begin in the late 20's and continue until the early 40's (say 27-42 or so), assuming you're in shape and have at least a decent career. Guys who are in good shape may be able to extend this for a few years, but women in the anglosphere are more conscious of age gaps than most, and so pulling 20 somethings will become much tougher at 45+ for the majority of guys. At that point, the average guy is usually going to be focusing on women in their early 30's largely out of necessity, assuming he stays in the anglosphere.

The "half your age, +7" rule mentioned earlier in this thread is a good proxy for the peak the average (average career, average physical condition, little travel experience) American guy would face in terms of peak. Going by that formula, the average dude would peak beginning at around 27 until his late 30's (at which point, going by the formula, he'd "age out" of easily accessing women under 27).

Change your location, and you can change your peak. Travel to some parts of South Asia, Eastern Europe, Latin America and even East Asia and you can extend your peak well into your mid 50's, perhaps even your early 60's in specific cases. Pulling 21-25 year olds at 50 would be unremarkable in many of these places. This assumes, of course, that you have some means. You don't need to be rich ($20-30k annual income will do VERY well for you in places like Thailand, Jamaica, the Philippines, etc), but more money never hurts (check the sig).

You'll also have a wider pool of women available. 16-17 year old females are, in the vast majority of cases, considered off limits in the US for guys over 18. This is not the case in most of Western/Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, or the vast majority of the rest of the planet. That wider pool will aid you as well, since you'll have more options (and your female targets more competition).

[WanderingSoul]

(02-18-2012 07:43 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

The age itself doesn't seem to be important. Game requires logistics, financial stability, and confidence. My uncle's wife left him in his late 50s, he's 63 and fucking college girls on a regular basis (this man is my idol...no better way to say "fuck you" to your ex-wife then fucking women half her age, but I digress...) The age itself is different, though after your late twenties you should have more financial stability.

Break this down for us. Where does he meet these girls? How is he gaming them? Is he rich? Is he sponsoring them? Curious to know some tricks for when I hit old age.

[Excelsior]

Another good illustration of what I was talking about above (courtesy of the great Solomon, may his blog RIP):

[Greek kamaki]

Younger guys have a crucial advantage stamina and a second advantage looks and older guys have a crucial advantage money and a second advantage experience.

Experience matters because it makes you predict the process(beginning,middle,end) sth the younger person cannot do because he has not yet seen the final stage.Also with experience you screen out quickly the girls who are not going to fuck and do not spend time for useless things.(being a bodyguard to a beautiful girl,keeping her company for year in the hope to fuck her etc).

About money what can we say the world's greatest aphrodisiac.The reason most women prefer older men.Also the comfort that money brings.Women like the comfort.(for example they do not like having to ride the bus or having to eat junk food).

Younger persons o the other hand have the advantage of stamina.When I was younger I could take the bus get to a resort 12 hours away then go to clubs and hit girls on the resort till 4.00 then wake up at 9.00 and stroll on the beach picking up girls the whole day under the sun.Now I am not anymore in the position to do this and the reason is lack of stamina.You notice this decline after 32-25 years of age(it is not coincidence that most football players retire at 35).

So the best age probablyis the 30-35 years old range when you have relative experience enough money and your stamina still intact.(you can club,fuck and next day join girlfriend in the morning for swimming with no sleep at all and then hit the malls.The older persons cannot do this they have to sleep and this is a reason many young women get bored when they gold dig older men so they need a younger fucker aside).

[DLuzhin]

If the man's stupid it's earlier, if the man's intelligent it's later.