I've still got approach avoidance here in Ukraine too, even considering I can barely speak the language. The big difference here is considering the sexual marketplace, I think there'll be a payback if I continue trying.
Day game and elderly chat, a la Roosh's Day game, would be good here with the most minimal staging ( being in the same cafe). I think most of the guys are so stolid, they don't seem like much fun to the women. Being broke is unavoidably to some degree emasculating. But my language skills suck, so I'm stuck with numbers from daygame, or caveman game at night which I will take a look at soon.
So I got on my feet a few days ago, starting doing approaches when my energy felt good, have gotten 2 numbers.
#1) I texted one chick , a 7, seeing if she wanted to walk around showing me what she thought would be good shooting locations, she seemed to think me being a moviemaker has DHV.
She texted back saying she'd like to but she worked that day. NO suggestion of alternative day means fail from my experience.
#2) With the second chick, also a 7, I actually violated the one rejection rule, and texted her-- I met her through social circle. She didn't respond to the text , and the phone number system here is more convoluted than the states so I had a faint hope she didn't get the message. So I called today, she's "tired from a party," is going to
Germany Monday and won't be back for a week. She also let on that she had gotten the text. This rude failure to respond as a norm is part of what I hated so much about Murka, so if I had really known I would have never called.
A common factor is both these Ukrainian girls have been to Germany, the first for 1.5 years. I think once they see the young hipster cock carousel that's available, the willingness to tolerate lower SMV (old) guys like me may plummet. I'm guessing she's got a guy in Germany, or is going to bust ass looking for one. It's immaterial as it's totally on her to contact me now.
This makes destinations where it's harder to get to Western Europe more appealing in my book. Chicks from Lugansk or Kherson have to spend a bit more I think to get there. Lviv.
But the main question here is, I think it's a good idea for me to delete these unenthusiastic numbers right away. I'm forgetting the first chick really fast because the number isn't there waiting to be called.
What I need to be doing is approaching more, not pining away over cold chicks. I've read about random comeback blasts, but I don't think I'm detached enough for that. Ideas welcome.
From dozens of numbers in the USA I've gotten, and turn-down without a suggested alternative never works out if I kept pursuing. So rather than let this poor possibility keeping taking up mindshares, I deleted her number so I have no way of contacting her, except to go to the store where I got her number.
I feel I'm already forgetting them faster, feeling like I have to open more chicks, although I've lost any small possibility with those cold fish.
Opinions welcome.
Day game and elderly chat, a la Roosh's Day game, would be good here with the most minimal staging ( being in the same cafe). I think most of the guys are so stolid, they don't seem like much fun to the women. Being broke is unavoidably to some degree emasculating. But my language skills suck, so I'm stuck with numbers from daygame, or caveman game at night which I will take a look at soon.
So I got on my feet a few days ago, starting doing approaches when my energy felt good, have gotten 2 numbers.
#1) I texted one chick , a 7, seeing if she wanted to walk around showing me what she thought would be good shooting locations, she seemed to think me being a moviemaker has DHV.
She texted back saying she'd like to but she worked that day. NO suggestion of alternative day means fail from my experience.
#2) With the second chick, also a 7, I actually violated the one rejection rule, and texted her-- I met her through social circle. She didn't respond to the text , and the phone number system here is more convoluted than the states so I had a faint hope she didn't get the message. So I called today, she's "tired from a party," is going to
Germany Monday and won't be back for a week. She also let on that she had gotten the text. This rude failure to respond as a norm is part of what I hated so much about Murka, so if I had really known I would have never called.
A common factor is both these Ukrainian girls have been to Germany, the first for 1.5 years. I think once they see the young hipster cock carousel that's available, the willingness to tolerate lower SMV (old) guys like me may plummet. I'm guessing she's got a guy in Germany, or is going to bust ass looking for one. It's immaterial as it's totally on her to contact me now.
This makes destinations where it's harder to get to Western Europe more appealing in my book. Chicks from Lugansk or Kherson have to spend a bit more I think to get there. Lviv.
But the main question here is, I think it's a good idea for me to delete these unenthusiastic numbers right away. I'm forgetting the first chick really fast because the number isn't there waiting to be called.
What I need to be doing is approaching more, not pining away over cold chicks. I've read about random comeback blasts, but I don't think I'm detached enough for that. Ideas welcome.
From dozens of numbers in the USA I've gotten, and turn-down without a suggested alternative never works out if I kept pursuing. So rather than let this poor possibility keeping taking up mindshares, I deleted her number so I have no way of contacting her, except to go to the store where I got her number.
I feel I'm already forgetting them faster, feeling like I have to open more chicks, although I've lost any small possibility with those cold fish.
Opinions welcome.
