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10-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Since the topic of swooping while volunteering/bell-ringing has come up recently, this got me thinking of charity events that I've been to in the past year or so. There are a couple of threads on the board about these, but I think it would be a good idea to consolidate.
Generally, these events are full of gorgeous women who are there for the taking. A few friends of mine have thrown some pretty high end events that have drawn large crowds, which means a lot of women. They vary from young to cougar/MILF types, and they are usually pretty formal as well, which means they won't be wearing flip flops. Keep in mind that I am relatively new to gaming women, and therefore haven't come away with any results as of yet, but there is a potential untapped resource. The shields are down due to the nature of charity events, and asking something as simple as 'What brings you to this event?' or 'Why do you support this particular cause?' is already a way to open any girl there. From there you can take it in many directions.
You tend to see women of different cultures and backgrounds as well. Very good diversity. You don't necessarily have to pay the entry fee that many have, as long as you dress the part and make yourself look like you belong there. When I go to these, I am always suited down a la GManifesto. Usually these events have an open bar for the patrons since they pay hefty entry fees and you can easily get the ladies to drink enough so that they become even easier.
I don't have as much experience in the volunteer game, but I would imagine it's also a goldmine for swooping ladies. Any board members here that can chime in should definitely do so. If you guys want more details just let me know and I'll give you as much gory detail as you'd like!
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01-18-2012, 09:45 AM
Good thread.
I will probably add more to this thread, as it develops, as the is one of the pillars of my Game.
Here one big advantage of these gigs:
They are "closed gigs" similar to weddings VS "open gig" which would be a night out at a nightclub.
I have been meaning to do a post on "Open Gigs" VS "Closed Gigs" for a while, but I think you guys know what I mean.
The advantage of "Closed Gigs" is it is very easy to get rapport with people, namely fly girls. Everyone there has something in common already.
Also, these gigs put you at a higher level than the competition with fly, quality girls. Key word here being quality.
Think about it, she met you on Thursday night at the Charity Social while smooth as hell and Custom Suited Down.
And she met another guy at a annoying nightclub on Friday in Skinny jeans and a glitter shirt with a hipster fedora.
Which one do you think she is going to call first?
Which one is she going to pick up her phone for?
You got it.
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01-18-2012, 10:23 AM
thanks for adding to this GMan. one thing i didnt mention that you hit right away was that its an instant DHV that youre there to begin with.
timing can be everything, especially if you arent paying the entry fee, which can sometimes be steep depending on where the event is and where its held. for the players on a tight budget, getting there early can mean that you dont have to check in or register. the other option is to come in fashionably late and rock a nice custom suit and act like you belong. i think both can work depending on your ability to tell a story.
one of the last events i was at had a few beautiful grey goose vodka models there serving drinks, and most of the crowd was older than i am. there were still plenty of young professional type women who were so easygoing and receptive to being opened that it caught me off guard since i never looked at these events as places to swoop (this was before i took the red pill).
will add more as it comes to me.
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01-18-2012, 01:33 PM
I never really thought about the opportunities to pickup women while also helping people. Anytips on how to choose a good charity that would hold events like this? Do you have to put in a certain amount of time before being invited?
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01-18-2012, 01:53 PM
Main problem is that women who volunteer are usually not too striking in the looks department. Let's be honest, the more attractive the girl, the more solipsistic she is and the less likely to give her valuable time out to help random strangers. I've never in my life heard a fine girl say she wants to work a soup kitchen, clean trash off the beach or join Habitat for Humanity.
Charity events might be different though since they often involve high-power people and philanthropists were serious moolah.
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01-18-2012, 02:15 PM
So I'm not really good at finding them, and it's difficult to predict which events will have more women than others. The reason I have been attending more recently is because friends of mine either organize them or sponsor them and they bring me along for company.
I think my favorite ones are charity galas featuring a fashion show because that means there are models. A lot of times there is a way to get a VIP ticket which gives you access to an afterparty or cocktail hour with models. In my limited experience with these, drunk models = easy swoops. Any thoughts GMan?
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01-18-2012, 03:28 PM
Man I can't wait til I get into one of these events customed suited down ala G.
Something to be cautious of though: Gather enough knowledge to not look like a fool if you get asked a question regarding the event and what can stem from it. I'm sure you've seen it quite alot in TV shows.
Will look online and newspaper for charity events in my current city. I advice everyone to do the same and just try it for fun.
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01-18-2012, 03:58 PM
Here's a quick rundown:
1) Don't think of charity events as “events;” they are more a combination of different social circles, i.e. staff/donors/do gooders/friends/corporations/industries.
2) People attending want to help, but most of all they want to reinforce their own social standing, meet new people like themselves and have fun; your DHV is already assumed
3) The events usually create a flat social hierarchy where everyone can talk to everyone freely
4) Are 1) not thought of as a Game venue, and 2) a “safe” environment, so women's' guard is very low
5) Fits nicely into female princess/In Touch fantasies
6) Provide the easiest openings around
Types of Events;
1) Big formal sit down events in huge hotel halls
Unless there's significant social time (i.e. dancing) afterwards, may not be ideal for game. Scenes are dictated by table (Law Firm X at tables 1-5, Multinational Z at tables 37-41). You don't want to be at a stupid banquet where people like me go up and accept awards for our organizations, then the charity spends 2 hours telling you how great they are. And you have to sit down the whole time. F--- that.
2)Big events in non-traditional places
Like train stations, museums, outdoor gardens, and public plazas; YES. The best charity game IMO occurs at free-form places (spatially) and maximizes socializing time. Lots of time and places to game, plus you can ignore speakers if you want.
3) Fun Run/Marathons
May be good for active types who like skinny girls. I have no idea because I'm black and like it thick.
4) Innovative Events
This, IMO, is best. These formats have less talking and formal crap, which is good for you. I was at a “Couture” Fundraiser last month at a high end boutique, where profits from sales went to the charity. Free entry, only RSVP needed. Models tried on stuff. Women drank champagne. I drank champagne. Everyone is in a great mood. The mix; me, 10 other straight dudes, 20 gay dudes, 80 women (who can actually fit into the slinky clothes). Does it get better? I was talking to a NFL backup (sent by the team as part of its charity support) and he was like “DAMN, n-----!”
Also, along these lines, events in Art Galleries, antique galleries, fancy-pants restaurants or any clothing/boutique stores are ideal. The charity usually has an “in” in these places and the store will invite their clients. When you see where its held, you can guess who will be attending.
Groups that hold the best charity events for game:
1) Any new online-type charity; always made up of 20-30 somethings drinking. Think about groups like Kiva (hell any group that does micro- anything) and Taporoot.
2) Urban Chicks' Groups; there's a proliferation of online-based networking groups for women that hold tons of charity events. Sure it seems like a bratty facebook page come to life then multiplied by 200, but the ratios are there. And the drinks too.
3) Country Groups. I know people here want flags, so keep in mind that the Brazilian group in your town will hold fundraisers (lol I'm familiar with my local Brazilian group), or the Italian group will hold a tasting at a restaurant. Plus the language institutes will as well. And never, ever forget about the Sister Cities program in your town which is often the epicenter for international events.
4) Advertising/Design/PR/Retail/Magazine industries; these industries are loaded with hot, shallow women. Firms always have pet charities they support.
(note; just so I'm not hit by lightning, must point out I take these charities' missions very seriously... but we're not here to talk about that)
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01-18-2012, 04:46 PM
Some events have networking opportunities before and/or after these events are over with a cocktail hour. These are great times to take advantage of the low shields and friendly nature of just about everyone present.
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01-19-2012, 06:28 PM
Here facebook is useful. Look up the event beforehand. Check out the list of people attending. You may have to say "yes" you're attending yourself to see it. This is okay, it's not a commitment to actually attending.
Indicators of a young fun crowd:
Dress code requirement
DJ
Dancing
Cocktails
No seating, you stand the whole event.
Indicators of a boring older crowd:
No mention of dress code.
Lecture
Performance
Dinner
Seated audience event.
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta."
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01-20-2012, 12:23 AM
I'm going to take pictures at the next one or two that I go to and you guys can get an idea of the kind of women that are there. but what p dog said about a lot of older rich men and their wives is definitely true, which makes it even better when youre a young gun in terms of competition.
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01-22-2012, 06:46 PM
What about actual charity/volunteer work?
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04-12-2012, 02:07 AM
I don't really want to start a new thread for this one.
Theres this program at my school called "safewalk" basically after 6pm you can call up safewalk and they'll walk you anywhere on campus so the millions of rapists on campus dont rape the shit out of you before you get to a place 5 minutes away.
Would this be a good platform for running game. I'm assuming the general clientele is women who are scared of everything or massive feminists who are the equivalent of our STD trolls when it comes to getting raped.
Pros:
- timid women, get to make them feel comfortable/secure
- guaranteed 15 minutes of talking time
- good practice for rambling/conversations
Cons:
- might lose your job if a crazy feminist overreacts to asking for a number as you part ways
- might look "beta" for walking her all over the place
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04-12-2012, 08:06 AM
my school had this and it wasnt just girls who used the service. they usually had 2 males walking with 1 female as well, so it wasnt like it was one on one with a female.
maybe its different at your school westerncancer?
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04-12-2012, 09:28 AM
I dunno P-dog I come from the land of crazy ass feminists, i guess it wouldn't hurt to try.
at350zguyy: I thought of this last night as I was walking home and saw a hot girl with the safewalk guy.I've only ever seen girls with them, but who knows I'll have to look into it more.