[obsidian_jaguar]

All right guys, before I'm accused of being elitist or a millionaire, I'd like to provide some context. I live in a country where social classes tend not to mix. This poses a problem for me, since I have seen many lower class girls I'd like to game. They are usually housemaids and work for the middle/upper class families. This makes it almost impossible to talk to them except for their days off in the weekends. I might get close to one of them at a park or some public space and start talking to them, but many of them see someone from a higher class as someone they can't trust or like. So, how would you game a girl from a lower class? How do you establish a connection with them? Keep in mind most of them are probably shy, they come from small villages in the countryside, distrust most people around them, are used to being bossed around by their higher class employers, being seen with someone from a different class is kind of a taboo, etc.
Ideas/suggestions?

[Caligula]

Which country are you in? This would make answering much easier.

[obsidian_jaguar]

(10-04-2011 05:46 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Which country are you in? This would make answering much easier.

lol all right, I'm in Mexico... I think this pretty much applies to most latin american countries though.

[Tuthmosis]

(10-04-2011 05:43 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

All right guys, before I'm accused of being elitist or a millionaire, I'd like to provide some context. I live in a country where social classes tend not to mix. This poses a problem for me, since I have seen many lower class girls I'd like to game. They are usually housemaids and work for the middle/upper class families. This makes it almost impossible to talk to them except for their days off in the weekends. I might get close to one of them at a park or some public space and start talking to them, but many of them see someone from a higher class as someone they can't trust or like. So, how would you game a girl from a lower class? How do you establish a connection with them? Keep in mind most of them are probably shy, they come from small villages in the countryside, distrust most people around them, are used to being bossed around by their higher class employers, being seen with someone from a different class is kind of a taboo, etc.
Ideas/suggestions?

Watch some telenovelas. That's pretty much the story in every single one.

[Samseau]

Just dress like the poor guys do.

[Tuthmosis]

(10-04-2011 06:35 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Watch some telenovelas. That's pretty much the story in every single one.

Fixed the embedded video above. Note the rich guy getting with the poor girl:

[Tuthmosis]

(10-04-2011 09:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Just dress like the poor guys do.

Incidentally, I think they do that in the Spanish soap operas quite a bit.

[obsidian_jaguar]

(10-04-2011 10:25 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 09:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Just dress like the poor guys do.

Incidentally, I think they do that in the Spanish soap operas quite a bit.

I might try that, but I think game goes beyond simple looks. I was thinking about using some self-deprecating humor, for instance. When you are in a superior position than someone else, I think getting down to their level by making fun of myself might be a good start.

[Samseau]

(10-04-2011 11:28 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 10:25 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 09:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Just dress like the poor guys do.

Incidentally, I think they do that in the Spanish soap operas quite a bit.

I might try that, but I think game goes beyond simple looks. I was thinking about using some self-deprecating humor, for instance. When you are in a superior position than someone else, I think getting down to their level by making fun of myself might be a good start.

If you dress poor, how will they know you are rich?


THINK MAN: You want poor girls, act like a poor guy!

Poor guys don't use self-depreciating humor. They act like cocky sons of bitches.

Lie about who you are, how much money you have, etc. Pretend you are poor until you fuck her. Afterwards you can say you were just trying to avoid gold-diggers. Easy as 1-2-3

[Tuthmosis]

(10-04-2011 11:28 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 10:25 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 09:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Just dress like the poor guys do.

Incidentally, I think they do that in the Spanish soap operas quite a bit.

I might try that, but I think game goes beyond simple looks. I was thinking about using some self-deprecating humor, for instance. When you are in a superior position than someone else, I think getting down to their level by making fun of myself might be a good start.

Joking aside, I think you might be misreading and over thinking this. My view of Latin culture with respect to class is that these girls are more intimidated by men of a higher class. Deep down, they dream about being with a guy who can buy them a nice dinner or just drive them around in their nice car (and not necessarily in a gold-digging way). Rich people in Latin America are treated like (and viewed as) aristocracy--especially if you look white. I think you can melt the initial shyness or apprehension by just seeming down-to-Earth and working extreme DHV game. You let your manly vibe, million-dollar smile, and nice clothes do the talking. After yucking it up with her for a few minutes with some charming talk, be direct and ask her out.

This is a simple one, man. No theatrics needed. That's why I was joking about the telenovela. That douchey beef-cake in the video I posted just works rich-guy game.

[afronoob]

(10-04-2011 05:43 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

All right guys, before I'm accused of being elitist or a millionaire, I'd like to provide some context. I live in a country where social classes tend not to mix. This poses a problem for me, since I have seen many lower class girls I'd like to game. They are usually housemaids and work for the middle/upper class families. This makes it almost impossible to talk to them except for their days off in the weekends. I might get close to one of them at a park or some public space and start talking to them, but many of them see someone from a higher class as someone they can't trust or like. So, how would you game a girl from a lower class? How do you establish a connection with them? Keep in mind most of them are probably shy, they come from small villages in the countryside, distrust most people around them, are used to being bossed around by their higher class employers, being seen with someone from a different class is kind of a taboo, etc.
Ideas/suggestions?

Dude,you're overthinking this. Am also in a 3rd world country. However you work it she must know she'll gain smth from the relationship;she's not necessarily a gold digger,but just needs safety and security.
The shy country ones are most receptive to this approach; shit,depending on your logistics you could establish a harem of maids!

[Hawk]

I like to date girls of different classes from mine. However, my problem is the opposite of yours, as I come from the working class, but it still fits the title of the thread. My experience is that posh girls love meeting an educated, polyglot guy with a different background. However, lower class girls are hard even for me when they don't have a degree, as they look for uneducated men; if you want a working class girl here, you must go for the educated ones.

Anyway, I come from Spain, where lower class girls are no longer maids and the situation is very different from Mexico, it sounds like a different world; however, it's still one of the Western European countries with the worst Gini coefficient. Only Portugal, the United Kingdom and Italy are worse than us.

It'd be interesting to hear in this thread guys from more equal countries, like Scandinavia or Germany.

By the way, here you have a map of inequality according to the CIA. It could be useful in order to know how to game girls from different countries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gini_C...t_2009.png

[K-man]

Man, I wish there were uneducated hot young village girls that I could hire as maids for a few bucks where I live.
This practice ended here before WW2, but one could definitely be handy in my household (in a number of ways).

[Caligula]

One tool for gaming these girls: qualify them. Don't run self deprecating game, but make it clear to them why you like a particular girl. This will deflect some of her suspicions.

[MiXX]

(10-04-2011 06:18 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 05:46 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Which country are you in? This would make answering much easier.

lol all right, I'm in Mexico... I think this pretty much applies to most latin american countries though.

Nope. I'm in Colombia, and local, affluent men fuck the "house help" and girls selling bagels/coffee on the street corner all the time when she is a fine piece of ass. Now, letting wifey allow her to work there is another story.

Not sure if you speak from a married guys POV or you are single. The single guys on my elite social circle fuck any fine piece of ass ready to give it up regardless of social class. If she is fine, she is fucked.

There is a very good Korean movie about this called "The Housemaid" - it's available to stream on Netflix.


Mixx

[Excelsior]

I think the proper method here could be similar to one we've spoken about earlier regarding "game for good looking guys" and how less is usually more.

I think you actually are ovethinking this a bit, as others have said. You're already in a very good position, one which most of these women will consider attractive. All you really have to do is approach them and then don't fuck up, while building a little rapport/comfort(be easy going, rely on DHV game, etc). Show them you'll provide some safety and security while doing this and I think you've got it locked.

[Pusscrook]

Treat them right initially, then treat them like shit to maintain a healthy dose of respect. Have you seen the movie "secretary'?

[obsidian_jaguar]

(10-05-2011 01:26 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 06:18 PM)obsidian_jaguar Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 05:46 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Which country are you in? This would make answering much easier.

lol all right, I'm in Mexico... I think this pretty much applies to most latin american countries though.

Nope. I'm in Colombia, and local, affluent men fuck the "house help" and girls selling bagels/coffee on the street corner all the time when she is a fine piece of ass. Now, letting wifey allow her to work there is another story.

Not sure if you speak from a married guys POV or you are single. The single guys on my elite social circle fuck any fine piece of ass ready to give it up regardless of social class. If she is fine, she is fucked.

There is a very good Korean movie about this called "The Housemaid" - it's available to stream on Netflix.


Mixx

I'm single. If these girls give it up as you say then sure, I will fuck them. My question was more along the line of how to approach them, what to say, etc. Like someone else said, I believe many of them may be intimidated by someone from a higher social class and might not want to be seen with him initially, thus making isolation much more necessary. I, however, don't have a housemaid in my house, which is why I need to look for them in the street.

[Feo]

My advice would be to not fuck with the help. At best you will have a stalker or worse she'll get pregnant. But if you're still into it I'd say Thutmo has the most solid advice.

[ElJefe]

the OP is already high status by his upper-class background.

His higher sexual value is therefore already implied.

He can afford to be a "nice-guy" to any mestizos he decides to mack, that should be his "game". Cocky remarks designed to pick her ego and make her self-doubt aren't necessary, thats taken care of. He just has to make her laugh and it should be easy.

It would be radically different if the roles were reversed (or just near-impossible, like an indian guy trying to get laid at Laguna Beach - but then, what's the point of game if not to make shit like that possible).

[obsidian_jaguar]

(10-09-2011 03:59 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

the OP is already high status by his upper-class background.

His higher sexual value is therefore already implied.

He can afford to be a "nice-guy" to any mestizos he decides to mack, that should be his "game". Cocky remarks designed to pick her ego and make her self-doubt aren't necessary, thats taken care of. He just has to make her laugh and it should be easy.

It would be radically different if the roles were reversed (or just near-impossible, like an indian guy trying to get laid at Laguna Beach - but then, what's the point of game if not to make shit like that possible).

Agreed. I guess the only remaining question is... how do you approach a shy girl, or a girl intimidated by upper class people?