Quote: (07-25-2018 10:33 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:
personally, i agree with the incels. Women do have a hypergamous nature that value looks over personality. Of course you can win over some women with personality but if you look like a male model then you're pretty much in there.
A perfect example is my workout partner, he's an antisocial verbally abuse asswipe btu he's jacked AF and has many features women view as attractive. He has ZERO luck in person with women but online Via tinder and stuff he can get almost any woman he wants. His notch count went from 0-6 in a couple weeks.
Dude has NO game.
The problem with incels aren't their beliefs on looks, but instead their views on women and their near suicidal thoughts and nature. They have given up and instead of working on inner game decided to work completely on the outer. Thus putting them in a never-ending cycle of lookmaxing. Most incels tend to have that revenge fantasy where they become a chad and fuck the girl of their dreams and cheat on her with an even more beautiful woman.
Your anecdote underscores why there has been a real proliferation of incels: the shift of dating from in-person to online. It's definitely the case that more men are getting their notches from online than night game and that hardly anyone does day game. This hasn't been widely mentioned, but I suspect that men are also getting laid far more online than even social circle, for two reasons:
1: social atomisation: more and more people in general have less community and social connections and are more isolated, for various economic and social reasons, reducing the prospects for social circle game
2: workplace game is far riskier than before, for obvious reasons, whereas in the past, plenty of men used to meet their wives at work (e.g. my father)
Since the avenues for non-online game have gotten harder, there has been a strong shift to online, making the importance of looks increasingly paramount. Hence the surge in incels. Your jacked friend, on the other hand, seems to be capitalising on this development.
I didn't read the article or watch the video btw, but from the comments, I doubt they made even the slightest effort to understand the predicament of incels.