Thoughts after one year of TRT.
So, as many of you know I’ve been on TRT for a full year. I figured I may as well share some of my thoughts on the whole thing. This isn’t to step on the toes of the other great TRT writers: Linux, MikeCF and the others I can’t recall right now. I respect the hell out of those guys for being honest way before it was cool to be on testosterone.
Info: age: 28
height 5’8
weight: 160-162
I’ve known about TRT for at least 3 years, but only decided to go on in China after I noticed a steady decline in my levels, brain fog and weakened libido. It was all scary to me. I’m used to being mentally sharp so the brain fog scared me into action.
After doing some research and weighing the pros and cons I figured that I had way more to gain than I had to lose. I am self-administering and I am not under the watch of a doctor of any sort, so keep that in mind. This is not meant to serve as medical advice for anyone here. Going on TRT is a big boy decision and if you need a thread on a game website to tell you whether or not you should be on TRT, then you should not be on TRT. Caveat emptor and all that.
Under the tutelage of two guys who have been on TRT and anabolics for 10+ years, I started with 150mg once a week through an insulin pin and 20mg of Dianabol 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. The Dianabol isn’t necessary but I enjoy bodybuilding so the low dosage is sort of a perma-cruise. The gains come on steadily and my body seems to have undergone a major recomposition. I’m not suggesting that to anyone, I just want to be honest about what I have been doing with my body as I write this.
For the first month, I didn’t really notice too much. It was painful and annoying to shoot weird oils into my body and I had my doubts about the entire thing. I was getting bigger in the gym and the numbers were climbing but it could have been placebo and Dbol—or so I thought.
At beginning of the second month, I felt like a totally new man.
I had more energy, more drive, more positivity, insane sex drive, I gained about 8kg over a 3 month period and I just felt unstoppable. My brain fog was gone. I was more creative. I was doing better at work. My boss was talking with me about promotions and stuff and how he wanted me to take over the reins as he moved up.
I was regularly getting asked if I was on some sort of sports team or if I had played sports in the past. Mind you, I was a pencil neck geek who only got into lifting at 25 years old to help with anger issues.
I remember once sitting with a group of friends and we were talking about fitness and getting in shape and one of the guys turns to me and says, “Fortis is clearly into fitness. Look at him. he has the best physique here.”
Now, in my social circle I’m regularly regarded as the guy who knows a bit about aesthetics and dieting. I hardly know anything but it feels sorta cool to go from being some skinny, lean dude to a muscular, lean dude and have the men you respect notice that change in you.
I was sorta floored by that since guys used to regularly say shit like, “Fortis, if you get into a fight, you should just quit. You’re too thin to do any damage. Just curl up in a ball on the ground and wait for it to pass.”
![[Image: jordan.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/jordan.gif)
Shit changes.
Game & Pulling Girls: Gaming is a lot easier
I find that I’m a lot “cooler” on dates. Sometimes I just sit there and smile and let them talk. I’m not thinking about advanced tactics, I’m just being me. I know she’s gonna come home with me, so it’s not a big deal. It’s the sort of confidence that all the game books say you should have but it just comes with higher test levels. I just “get it” now. I also find it easier to next girls. I used to get all caught up in a girl.
Girls regularly comment on my scent and tell me I smell good despite the fact that I wear scentless deodorant and 0 cologne. I once had a girl walk into my apartment and go, “wow it smells so good in here. It smells just like you.” Weird as hell, but I’ll take it.
Paradigm shifts:
All that physical shit said, I think the most profound thing that comes out of TRT is the “gameness.”
No, I'm not talking about your game with the ladies, I'm talking about your game with life.
I feel like most challenges are trivial and easy to overcome with effort. Contrast this feeling to how I felt when I wasn’t on test. I felt totally helpless in my own life AND I acted like it. I used to sit in my apartment drinking, wallowing and wondering about why my life wouldn’t improve.
On TRT, everyday feels like it matters. I rarely feel like I’m just spinning my wheels and masturbating. I also find that I don’t over think things. I find things to do, do them and move on.
Need more money? Work more. Come up with a side hustle. Did that? Ok, do it again.
Need more women? Approach, tantan, tinder, okcupid. Talk to chicks as you walk to work or walk to the gym. Talk to RVF guys to figure out how to streamline my tactics. I feel much more goal-oriented.
Even my writing has changed. I don’t use as many interruptions. I keep my sentences shorter. I also notice that most of my interactions with women are way more positive. Even btichy women are just nicer to me. I’ve cold approached some icy chicks and they’ve been VERY easy going. I’ve told friends about this and they’re like “her, she’s a fucking cunt. Why’s she so nice to you?”
I’m not sure if it’s the TRT but I just notice I get a lot more respect in day to day conversations from people. Less sarcasm, more direct answers. Hell, I even get cold approached by random people who just want to talk. I suspect it has something to do with my mood. My mood is often very good now and I think people pick up on it and just want to be a part of that.
I also notice that I am not nearly as sarcastic as I used to be. Sometimes someone says something sarcastic to me and I don’t even get it. I’m not beyond that, but it’s almost like sarcasm is some catty bullshit that stemmed from my low testosterone levels.
I’m still petty but I find that I’m better able to call out my own bullshit and move on “are you arguing because you give a shit or because you want to look good? Move on. Better battles out there.” No more plotting revenge over imagined insults, just moving on and hustling.
Downsides:
Nothing is 100% good.
1. Pinning every week
The biggest downside is pinning weekly. It’s easy, it’s fast but it is a bit of a slog sometimes.
2. Sex Drive
Sex drive can be too crazy sometimes. Some days I want to fuck every girl over a 5 on the looks scale, that I see. It’s a bit annoying. Luckily, I have a few plates who accommodate me, but it can be aggravating when they’re not around.
3. Gotta be secretive about it
Not always being able to talk openly about it. A lot of guys still demonize testosterone so sometimes you run into dudes who are the poster children for men who need TRT but you know they’ve been too deeply brainwashed to benefit from your suggestions.
4. Sourcing shit online
If you go the self-administering route like me, you have to source your own shit. Connections often get squeezed or blocked so you have to keep and up-to-date list trustworthy vendors. It’s easy to do but annoying all the same since guys will not share their sources with you if it’s a legit source. No one wants their best source to get nixed.
5. Vindictive Women
I have to hide the fact that I use it from women. You never know when a girl you fucked might get vindictive. She’ll remember seeing that needle package and call the cops and get your ass put away from a long time. This may change if you’re on a TRT prescription but chicks are always vindictive so always gotta be careful.
6. You’re Never Going Off
This is the cold truth. I couldn’t imagine going off ever now and I don’t intend to. It does put a lid on my travel a bit since I don’t like to travel with testosterone in my luggage and shit, but I’m not a frequent traveler so it’s fine. That said, it’s a big boy decision and you should really consider this last point before you give your doctor the green light to put you on. Going off is a bitch and can be really harsh.
Should I go on TRT:
Invariably this question comes up when I talk about TRT so I wanted to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. I’m not going to answer that since it is a personal decision and you should do your research.
Some guys just hop on TRT because they think it’ll solve all their problems. It isn’t a panacea for not wanting to approach, being autistic/omega/beta or being skinny and weak. You still have to put in the work like other men, but it’s a helluva lot easier to work hard when your hormones are balanced and in order. I suspect that many of the MGTOWs would test very low on testosterone, but that’s neither here nor there.
Side note: It pays for all men today to keep a record of their hormone levels as they age. TRT is probably in everyone’s future so get your blood work done now (in your 20s) so that as you age your doctor has a baseline to dose you against.
Thanks: Linux - Awesome TRT datasheet on this forum
MikeCF - Awesome website and one of the original RVFers on TRT
Roosh - For the awesome website where I could eventually be led down this path
All the other RVF bros - Definitely wouldn't be at this level without this website and you guys
So, as many of you know I’ve been on TRT for a full year. I figured I may as well share some of my thoughts on the whole thing. This isn’t to step on the toes of the other great TRT writers: Linux, MikeCF and the others I can’t recall right now. I respect the hell out of those guys for being honest way before it was cool to be on testosterone.
Info: age: 28
height 5’8
weight: 160-162
I’ve known about TRT for at least 3 years, but only decided to go on in China after I noticed a steady decline in my levels, brain fog and weakened libido. It was all scary to me. I’m used to being mentally sharp so the brain fog scared me into action.
After doing some research and weighing the pros and cons I figured that I had way more to gain than I had to lose. I am self-administering and I am not under the watch of a doctor of any sort, so keep that in mind. This is not meant to serve as medical advice for anyone here. Going on TRT is a big boy decision and if you need a thread on a game website to tell you whether or not you should be on TRT, then you should not be on TRT. Caveat emptor and all that.
Under the tutelage of two guys who have been on TRT and anabolics for 10+ years, I started with 150mg once a week through an insulin pin and 20mg of Dianabol 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. The Dianabol isn’t necessary but I enjoy bodybuilding so the low dosage is sort of a perma-cruise. The gains come on steadily and my body seems to have undergone a major recomposition. I’m not suggesting that to anyone, I just want to be honest about what I have been doing with my body as I write this.
For the first month, I didn’t really notice too much. It was painful and annoying to shoot weird oils into my body and I had my doubts about the entire thing. I was getting bigger in the gym and the numbers were climbing but it could have been placebo and Dbol—or so I thought.
At beginning of the second month, I felt like a totally new man.
I had more energy, more drive, more positivity, insane sex drive, I gained about 8kg over a 3 month period and I just felt unstoppable. My brain fog was gone. I was more creative. I was doing better at work. My boss was talking with me about promotions and stuff and how he wanted me to take over the reins as he moved up.
I was regularly getting asked if I was on some sort of sports team or if I had played sports in the past. Mind you, I was a pencil neck geek who only got into lifting at 25 years old to help with anger issues.
I remember once sitting with a group of friends and we were talking about fitness and getting in shape and one of the guys turns to me and says, “Fortis is clearly into fitness. Look at him. he has the best physique here.”
Now, in my social circle I’m regularly regarded as the guy who knows a bit about aesthetics and dieting. I hardly know anything but it feels sorta cool to go from being some skinny, lean dude to a muscular, lean dude and have the men you respect notice that change in you.
I was sorta floored by that since guys used to regularly say shit like, “Fortis, if you get into a fight, you should just quit. You’re too thin to do any damage. Just curl up in a ball on the ground and wait for it to pass.”
![[Image: jordan.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/jordan.gif)
Shit changes.
Game & Pulling Girls: Gaming is a lot easier
I find that I’m a lot “cooler” on dates. Sometimes I just sit there and smile and let them talk. I’m not thinking about advanced tactics, I’m just being me. I know she’s gonna come home with me, so it’s not a big deal. It’s the sort of confidence that all the game books say you should have but it just comes with higher test levels. I just “get it” now. I also find it easier to next girls. I used to get all caught up in a girl.
Girls regularly comment on my scent and tell me I smell good despite the fact that I wear scentless deodorant and 0 cologne. I once had a girl walk into my apartment and go, “wow it smells so good in here. It smells just like you.” Weird as hell, but I’ll take it.
Paradigm shifts:
All that physical shit said, I think the most profound thing that comes out of TRT is the “gameness.”
No, I'm not talking about your game with the ladies, I'm talking about your game with life.
I feel like most challenges are trivial and easy to overcome with effort. Contrast this feeling to how I felt when I wasn’t on test. I felt totally helpless in my own life AND I acted like it. I used to sit in my apartment drinking, wallowing and wondering about why my life wouldn’t improve.
On TRT, everyday feels like it matters. I rarely feel like I’m just spinning my wheels and masturbating. I also find that I don’t over think things. I find things to do, do them and move on.
Need more money? Work more. Come up with a side hustle. Did that? Ok, do it again.
Need more women? Approach, tantan, tinder, okcupid. Talk to chicks as you walk to work or walk to the gym. Talk to RVF guys to figure out how to streamline my tactics. I feel much more goal-oriented.
Even my writing has changed. I don’t use as many interruptions. I keep my sentences shorter. I also notice that most of my interactions with women are way more positive. Even btichy women are just nicer to me. I’ve cold approached some icy chicks and they’ve been VERY easy going. I’ve told friends about this and they’re like “her, she’s a fucking cunt. Why’s she so nice to you?”
I’m not sure if it’s the TRT but I just notice I get a lot more respect in day to day conversations from people. Less sarcasm, more direct answers. Hell, I even get cold approached by random people who just want to talk. I suspect it has something to do with my mood. My mood is often very good now and I think people pick up on it and just want to be a part of that.
I also notice that I am not nearly as sarcastic as I used to be. Sometimes someone says something sarcastic to me and I don’t even get it. I’m not beyond that, but it’s almost like sarcasm is some catty bullshit that stemmed from my low testosterone levels.
I’m still petty but I find that I’m better able to call out my own bullshit and move on “are you arguing because you give a shit or because you want to look good? Move on. Better battles out there.” No more plotting revenge over imagined insults, just moving on and hustling.
Downsides:
Nothing is 100% good.
1. Pinning every week
The biggest downside is pinning weekly. It’s easy, it’s fast but it is a bit of a slog sometimes.
2. Sex Drive
Sex drive can be too crazy sometimes. Some days I want to fuck every girl over a 5 on the looks scale, that I see. It’s a bit annoying. Luckily, I have a few plates who accommodate me, but it can be aggravating when they’re not around.
3. Gotta be secretive about it
Not always being able to talk openly about it. A lot of guys still demonize testosterone so sometimes you run into dudes who are the poster children for men who need TRT but you know they’ve been too deeply brainwashed to benefit from your suggestions.
4. Sourcing shit online
If you go the self-administering route like me, you have to source your own shit. Connections often get squeezed or blocked so you have to keep and up-to-date list trustworthy vendors. It’s easy to do but annoying all the same since guys will not share their sources with you if it’s a legit source. No one wants their best source to get nixed.
5. Vindictive Women
I have to hide the fact that I use it from women. You never know when a girl you fucked might get vindictive. She’ll remember seeing that needle package and call the cops and get your ass put away from a long time. This may change if you’re on a TRT prescription but chicks are always vindictive so always gotta be careful.
6. You’re Never Going Off
This is the cold truth. I couldn’t imagine going off ever now and I don’t intend to. It does put a lid on my travel a bit since I don’t like to travel with testosterone in my luggage and shit, but I’m not a frequent traveler so it’s fine. That said, it’s a big boy decision and you should really consider this last point before you give your doctor the green light to put you on. Going off is a bitch and can be really harsh.
Should I go on TRT:
Invariably this question comes up when I talk about TRT so I wanted to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. I’m not going to answer that since it is a personal decision and you should do your research.
Some guys just hop on TRT because they think it’ll solve all their problems. It isn’t a panacea for not wanting to approach, being autistic/omega/beta or being skinny and weak. You still have to put in the work like other men, but it’s a helluva lot easier to work hard when your hormones are balanced and in order. I suspect that many of the MGTOWs would test very low on testosterone, but that’s neither here nor there.
Side note: It pays for all men today to keep a record of their hormone levels as they age. TRT is probably in everyone’s future so get your blood work done now (in your 20s) so that as you age your doctor has a baseline to dose you against.
Thanks: Linux - Awesome TRT datasheet on this forum
MikeCF - Awesome website and one of the original RVFers on TRT
Roosh - For the awesome website where I could eventually be led down this path
All the other RVF bros - Definitely wouldn't be at this level without this website and you guys
I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.