[Vaun]

Well after I fell for a girl, she told me she was a bartender in Australia before college and bartended a few stag parties with prostitutes giving BJ's. Hindsight is 20/20 now, but that would have been a good point to get up and walk out for good.

[blck]

Yes I did and it was one of the best fucks of my life, even if we were young she had too much experience on "How to please a man" to be anything else than a slut.
3 months straight of hardcore raw dogging and fluid exchanges, period or not and I won't tell you what she used to do when I finished but there was no "waste", I enjoyed each minute of it...
Thanks to her

[Jean Valjean]

(05-05-2017 08:41 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Men love idealistically.

We project our ideals onto women and then fool ourselves into believing we're in love with them.

In reality we're just in love with our own ideals and one day some random sloot just happened to be on the receiving end

Women do this too, though (especially BPD chicks). They idealize and then devalue. When they love you, they find a way to see even your faults as strengths. When they fall out of love, they find a way to dismiss everything they ever thought was good about you.

A BPD chick needs to idealize her man because she wouldn't be able to handle the reality of his imperfections. It would mean that he might be capable of betrayal, or that his power to keep her safe might not be limitless. Since in difficult times, she lacks the ability to calm herself without resorting to extreme measures like cutting herself, such troubling realities can't be allowed to enter her mind, and therefore her subconscious defense mechanisms work to keep them hidden from her.

She seeks deeper and deeper commitment (marriage, pregnancy, etc.) as a way of gorging herself on the good feelings she gets from being with this idealized guy. Yet in doing so, she exposes herself to greater risk of betrayal if he were to not be trustworthy. Her insecurities finally take over, and at that point she must either acknowledge her own weakness (i.e. her inability to handle a situation where there's even a slight possibility of betrayal), or project her faults onto him. Of course, she will do the latter, and devalue him, hating him with the same passion with which she once loved him, and treating him accordingly.

Non-BPD chicks don't go to such extremes, but they still have some undercurrents of paranoia in their psyche that drive them to engage in some of the same behaviors and thought patterns as BPD chicks, just to a lesser extent.

Women also contribute to men's idealization of them by mirroring of men they fall in love with. They'll figure out what the man's ideal is, and then try to become that, at least long enough to snag him. So for example, if he says he's into camping in the woods, suddenly she's into camping in the woods too. Given the influence of feminism on our culture, men sometimes forget that women (especially young women) tend to be natural followers, rather than independently having stable identities, preferences, opinions, etc. (other than the preference for a strong man who will lead them.)

[questor70]

(05-05-2017 03:46 PM)blck Wrote:  

3 months straight of hardcore raw dogging and fluid exchanges, period or not and I won't tell you what she used to do when I finished but there was no "waste", I enjoyed each minute of it...
Thanks to her

HELL YEAH. I had an experience with the ex I reference in the no contact thread that was like this. I've had women with a healthy libido since then but I doubt I'll ever encounter anyone else quite like that. I really think she was a true nymphomaniac and since she had no life, no kids, no obligations, she had all the time in the world to function as a sex doll for the brief time I spent with her. So the instant I had the inclination to go another round, or another, or another, she just spread her legs. Frictionless, endless no-bullshit compliance. The cruel world disappeared and it just became this nonstop heroin-binge-like sex party. As long as I limit my memory to only that aspect I don't regret that experience even though in the end I couldn't trust her more than I could throw her.

If only quality women could approach sex that way... Reality is cruel.

[Jean Valjean]

(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

HELL YEAH. I had an experience with the ex I reference in the no contact thread that was like this. I've had women with a healthy libido since then but I doubt I'll ever encounter anyone else quite like that. I really think she was a true nymphomaniac and since she had no life, no kids, no obligations, she had all the time in the world to function as a sex doll for the brief time I spent with her. So the instant I had the inclination to go another round, or another, or another, she just spread her legs. Frictionless, endless no-bullshit compliance. The cruel world disappeared and it just became this nonstop heroin-binge-like sex party. As long as I limit my memory to only that aspect I don't regret that experience even though in the end I couldn't trust her more than I could throw her.

If only quality women could approach sex that way... Reality is cruel.

The only solution is, you need to have that freaky chick around to drain your balls (and then swallow the excess), and a normal chick around to raise the kids and behave like a responsible wife and mother. Polygyny FTW.

[killjoy]

(05-05-2017 05:09 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

HELL YEAH. I had an experience with the ex I reference in the no contact thread that was like this. I've had women with a healthy libido since then but I doubt I'll ever encounter anyone else quite like that. I really think she was a true nymphomaniac and since she had no life, no kids, no obligations, she had all the time in the world to function as a sex doll for the brief time I spent with her. So the instant I had the inclination to go another round, or another, or another, she just spread her legs. Frictionless, endless no-bullshit compliance. The cruel world disappeared and it just became this nonstop heroin-binge-like sex party. As long as I limit my memory to only that aspect I don't regret that experience even though in the end I couldn't trust her more than I could throw her.

If only quality women could approach sex that way... Reality is cruel.

The only solution is, you need to have that freaky chick around to drain your balls (and then swallow the excess), and a normal chick around to raise the kids and behave like a responsible wife and mother. Polygyny FTW.

Sounds like the male version of Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks

[Vaun]

(05-05-2017 05:24 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 05:09 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 04:44 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

HELL YEAH. I had an experience with the ex I reference in the no contact thread that was like this. I've had women with a healthy libido since then but I doubt I'll ever encounter anyone else quite like that. I really think she was a true nymphomaniac and since she had no life, no kids, no obligations, she had all the time in the world to function as a sex doll for the brief time I spent with her. So the instant I had the inclination to go another round, or another, or another, she just spread her legs. Frictionless, endless no-bullshit compliance. The cruel world disappeared and it just became this nonstop heroin-binge-like sex party. As long as I limit my memory to only that aspect I don't regret that experience even though in the end I couldn't trust her more than I could throw her.

If only quality women could approach sex that way... Reality is cruel.

The only solution is, you need to have that freaky chick around to drain your balls (and then swallow the excess), and a normal chick around to raise the kids and behave like a responsible wife and mother. Polygyny FTW.

Sounds like the male version of Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks

Would that be an Alpha Groom?

[lonewolf1992]

My first real crush was with a toxic teacher when I was 16, I lost my virginity with that woman believing she was the most precious human being on earth. She was 27. Months later I found out she actually had a 10 year relationship and was cheating her boyfriend with her student (me). Once I graduated from high school she quitted and dumped me altogether.

I fucked her twice in the subsequent years to find out she's been fucking random guys at parties, found out She broke up with her ex-boyfriend, And even started to sniff and smoke all sorts of substances while fucking with her ex-boyfriend's best friend (described to me how sexy it was to suck his dick while blowing speedballs) All of that was part of the post-sex chat. Such toxic relationship haunted me for around 7-8 years to the point I even had to take some therapies that actually helped me to an extent in that time. I don't think of her as a human being anymore but as some kind of demon or succubus, the sex with her was among the most soul-draining and depressing experiences I've ever had. I'm glad I got rid of her as I shoulda done when I realised what kind of person she really was.

[Svoboda]

(05-05-2017 07:09 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

My first real crush was with a toxic teacher when I was 16, I lost my virginity with that woman believing she was the most precious human being on earth. She was 27. Months later I found out she actually had a 10 year relationship and was cheating her boyfriend with her student (me). Once I graduated from high school she quitted and dumped me altogether.

I fucked her twice in the subsequent years to find out she's been fucking random guys at parties, found out She broke up with her ex-boyfriend, And even started to sniff and smoke all sorts of substances while fucking with her ex-boyfriend's best friend (described to me how sexy it was to suck his dick while blowing speedballs) All of that was part of the post-sex chat. Such toxic relationship haunted me for around 7-8 years to the point I even had to take some therapies that actually helped me to an extent in that time. I don't think of her as a human being anymore but as some kind of demon or succubus, the sex with her was among the most soul-draining and depressing experiences I've ever had. I'm glad I got rid of her as I shoulda done when I realised what kind of person she really was.

Rape culture?

[lonewolf1992]

(05-05-2017 07:26 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 07:09 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

My first real crush was with a toxic teacher when I was 16, I lost my virginity with that woman believing she was the most precious human being on earth. She was 27. Months later I found out she actually had a 10 year relationship and was cheating her boyfriend with her student (me). Once I graduated from high school she quitted and dumped me altogether.

I fucked her twice in the subsequent years to find out she's been fucking random guys at parties, found out She broke up with her ex-boyfriend, And even started to sniff and smoke all sorts of substances while fucking with her ex-boyfriend's best friend (described to me how sexy it was to suck his dick while blowing speedballs) All of that was part of the post-sex chat. Such toxic relationship haunted me for around 7-8 years to the point I even had to take some therapies that actually helped me to an extent in that time. I don't think of her as a human being anymore but as some kind of demon or succubus, the sex with her was among the most soul-draining and depressing experiences I've ever had. I'm glad I got rid of her as I shoulda done when I realised what kind of person she really was.

Rape culture?

There was no rape culture in colombia back in 2008 and I engaged with her fully conscious. But now that I think about it I hope this bitch gets what she deserves.

[Jean Valjean]

(05-05-2017 07:09 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

My first real crush was with a toxic teacher when I was 16, I lost my virginity with that woman believing she was the most precious human being on earth. She was 27. Months later I found out she actually had a 10 year relationship and was cheating her boyfriend with her student (me). Once I graduated from high school she quitted and dumped me altogether.

What was the toxic aspect of the relationship? Did she lead you on but ultimately just use you for sex?

[lonewolf1992]

(05-05-2017 07:51 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 07:09 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

My first real crush was with a toxic teacher when I was 16, I lost my virginity with that woman believing she was the most precious human being on earth. She was 27. Months later I found out she actually had a 10 year relationship and was cheating her boyfriend with her student (me). Once I graduated from high school she quitted and dumped me altogether.

What was the toxic aspect of the relationship? Did she lead you on but ultimately just use you for sex?

Indeed, At that time I was an uber lonely beta male whose Dad's model was Kurt Cobain. I was going through a huge depression, Aaaaand She took advantage of it by approaching and selling herself as a kind and beautiful person who happened to like grunge music as well (sometimes I felt something was off with her). She even told me once that she loved me. She was my first kiss, my first hug, my first everything, but during sex I felt something was really really wrong with her, I just felt bad, weary, drained, felt no soul, and I even used to cry for the bad feelings I had, years later when I finally got on a normal relationship with a girl, I realised how f*ck*d up this broad was.

[RatInTheWoods]

(05-05-2017 12:47 AM)sch Wrote:  

As soon as I find out that I'm falling in love I just re-read Rational Male or something that factually describes who women are. And then it just vanishes. Be stronger than that.

Ha. Me too. Very true medicine for feelz.

They all be whores bro.

[Brodiaga]

I have. I was young, dumb and full of cum.

[questor70]

(05-05-2017 08:02 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

At that time I was an uber lonely beta male whose Dad's model was Kurt Cobain. I was going through a huge depression, Aaaaand She took advantage of it...

Wow. Whether it's guys or girls you can only lose your virginity once and I suppose how it happens can make a strong impact on your life. There's surely a lot more to your story than can fit in one or two forum posts. Hope people here don't mind the topic-drift but I'm curious about your story since I also had my virginity taken by an older woman but the particulars were totally different--just as lonely and depressed as you probably were, but 10 years older and developed a crush for a coworker who was more of a madonna than a whore (which was part of the attraction for me, her nurturing vibe). Experienced plenty of drama at the end but don't feel I was victimized by her other than the fact that it had to be kept a "secret", establishing a pattern I fell into of always being someone's dirty little secret rather than a genuine BF. But that was really the fault of me settling for these arrangements in the first place. It was all about securing access to pussy even at the cost of my dignity.

[Pheonix]

Yes. Unbeknownst to me, she had been a life-long prostitute who used me to escape the game. That's when I went red.

[lonewolf1992]

(05-05-2017 11:18 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 08:02 PM)lonewolf1992 Wrote:  

At that time I was an uber lonely beta male whose Dad's model was Kurt Cobain. I was going through a huge depression, Aaaaand She took advantage of it...

Wow. Whether it's guys or girls you can only lose your virginity once and I suppose how it happens can make a strong impact on your life. There's surely a lot more to your story than can fit in one or two forum posts. Hope people here don't mind the topic-drift but I'm curious about your story since I also had my virginity taken by an older woman but the particulars were totally different--just as lonely and depressed as you probably were, but 10 years older and developed a crush for a coworker who was more of a madonna than a whore (which was part of the attraction for me, her nurturing vibe). Experienced plenty of drama at the end but don't feel I was victimized by her other than the fact that it had to be kept a "secret", establishing a pattern I fell into of always being someone's dirty little secret rather than a genuine BF. But that was really the fault of me settling for these arrangements in the first place. It was all about securing access to pussy even at the cost of my dignity.

I totally relate to your story in this way. Becuse by the time I started my sexual life, absolutely all the girls and I mean ALL I've made out and got laid with, have been girls in LTRs. Even the normal LTR I had which was the last straw I had with women was in a LTR before she dumped the guy and stood with me.

[ziggystardust]

(05-05-2017 09:26 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

I have. I was young, dumb and full of cum.

Top KeK

[BlackFriar]

I need to find these women. :-)

[BlackFriar]

^

Steelex [15]

I need to reiterate this.

There are a lot of prim and proper ladies out there with husbands and kids that go to choir practice on Thursday who will spread their shaven assholes for a discrete man at 2pm on a Monday if they know they can get away with it.

[LastKing]

I think everyone has...

[floridaboiii]

My ex is a slutty ass whore. I knew it and told her she was a whore from the beginning and she confirmed it... I gave her the benefit of the doubt because she was honest and all she wanted to do was fuck. Then im actually the one who told her id be committed... because even with all the red flags she was actually just fun to be around and we vibed. Definitely loved her but when she's a whore for you all those other thoughts pop in your head....

I keep reading all these posts from dudes on here on how they can get any girl to do whatever they want and I guess my game isn't good because I still have this girl in my life two years later because nobody's sex game is as good as hers. Two days ago we woke up and we're laying around chillin at like 9am and she says, "uhhhh I want you to fuck my face." Like everybody else is saying if only I could get the nice girls to do these type of things.....

[Beyond Borders]

Yes.