Puebla, Mexico data sheet
07-13-2013, 07:04 PM
I've been a reader for a long time and finally joined to contribute to the Puebla datasheet. I lived there for a year before and have been going every 4-6 weeks for the past 5 years, thus using this information as my background and credibility.
If you don't want to read much, long-story-short: Don't stay there, the cost/benefit is negative.
Things that will get you laid quickly: Having a nice car, being German or pulling it off, and possessing materialistic stuff.
They will try to make you spend without putting out.
In regards to pipope, I agree with bars, it means "Pinche Poblana(o) Pendeja(o)". Only poblanas will refer to themselves as "Pieza Poblana Perfecta". Calling a poblana PiPoPe will piss her off, so use it to your convenience. Why pipope? Because Poblanas (proper name) are known for being the most shallow and materialistic women in mexico and being ugly at the same time.
Puebla and Cholula are close by but different cities. Puebla is bigger in terms of size and population but the pace of life is slower and poorer. Cholula is smaller, but it's more active in terms of moment and activities, and wealthier. Before I describe each separately, I would like to say that Cholula is better than Puebla. So stay in Cholula. Also, thanks to those who have contributed, everything is correct.
Puebla:
Fourth largest city in Mexico, hosts a lot of universities. Direct flights from Monterrey, Guadalajara, Houston, Dallas, and some other city. Two hours away from DF airport via bus (Estrella Roja $20 USD one-way). If you're coming in from an airport, take the 4 PTE bus. It's a private terminal that's safer than CAPU (main bus station, known for muggings/pickpockets). Taxis from 4 PTE are 2 dollars more expensive.
There's a VW plant on the outskirts, and a large German expat population. So being American won't win any points, only "another gringo" remarks. If you can pull off being German then you will have the upper middle class - high class ladies easily. Americans can pull off Middle class easily and other classes with a little more work. The city is obsessed with europe, a lot of things are compared to things in "europa". Koreans are moving in to the city, so exoticness is vanishing away.
Places to day game:
UDLAP: Private university, located in Cholula. Hosts 40% of the wealthy people in the city. Good networking place and to day game. It's gated and you may be asked for ID. Just say you are here for a tour or want to know more. There is a street a kilometer long next to it with bars and clubs, called "la 14 (catorce)". Go to UDLAP, talk to a girl, drop that you've been to germany or work for VW, take her to la 14, and back to your pad.
Tec de Monterrey: Sames as UDLAP, private university in Cholula that hosts 40% of the rich people. There are no clubs nearby, it's on "Atlixcayotl" the main highway/street that does through the rich area. Renting a car is a nice thing, most of the have a car so riding a taxi won't pull it. It's a good place to form a social circle or at least pull numbers for later on.
BUAP: It's your large state college in Puebla city, easy to pull girls here since they are not as stuck up and more down to earth. The campus is big and people abound, like open hunting season. Not many bars nearby and it's on the outskirts to the city next to a highway ring.
Plazas - These are shopping centers, you will see a crap load of ladies around here. Any time, any day. My favorite place to game. There's (in ascending socio economic scale) Plaza: Loreto, Dorada, Cristal, Las Animas, and Mazaryk. For my, Animas and Dorada are the best since they are in the center of a large area and filled most of the time. Game, Eat breakfast, game again, come back...it's like you're a taxi driver taking ladies from your base (plaza) to your home. Mazaryk is small by the way, I would rather go to "angelopolis". The Puebla Convention Center is close to Plaza Dorada, it's a nice green area with a small plaza (San Francisco) next to it. Women are there during the mornings taking pictures, eating lunch during the afternoon and attending events during the evenings. I've hooked up while going to "fashion events", most straight guys have no interest in fashion which eliminates competition.
Angelopolis - The shopping mall of Puebla/Cholula. Perfect place for college students and milfs. It's better to go during the day than in the evenings when they take their men along. It's located on Atlixcayotl (main street for Rooshers). Prices are more expensive than in 'murica.
Zocalo de Puebla: Public square, many tourists and local girls abound here. Plenty of restaurants nearby so it's easy to invite a lady for a drink or meal. There's everything from formal dining with wine with a serenade to a 15 pesos "McCone" ice cream cone. Hours of activity 730am-9am, 9-3pm for lonely mothers, 12-4pm for people on their lunch, and 530-7 when people leave their jobs. I prefer the first and last time frames.There are bars nearby, but they are sketchy...especially at night. Don't walk around "5 de mayo" (main walking street) past 10pm with confidence.
Zocalo de Cholula: Same thing as Puebla's but there are bars nearby, the place is cleaner but with less people. It's safe and clean at night. The locals are better off and there are more foreigners in this area. There's an "italian coffee house" on the edge of the square, but some women are "allergic" to it. Yes gentlemen, I've had women (friends and dates) tell me that they are allergic to it and prefer starbucks. That's why, pipopes.
One more thing about cholula. Ride the black taxis! The blue (rural) taxis will charge some "out of urban zone" fee. A 4 dollar ride will turn into a 15 dollar ride with the blue ones
Nightlife:
La 14 - There is the 1 kilometer long place where college/local kids go to partay, you will see betas trying to impress girls with their (or parent's) new cars and expensive clothes driving up and down. Foreigners move in, and take the girls. Some poblanos will get pissed and start a fight. Most clubs have tables and aren't that walkable. Go to "bambucos" for a pre-drink. No cover and I got 4 orders of hot wings and 8 liters of great slush-cocktail drinks for 680 pesos ($60 USD). Bambucos has a lot of place to dance and it's not table centered, at least the first floor...in case you want to get shit faced and stay there. Otherwise go to MING, it should be right in front of Bamucos. Typical club stuff, wait in line, face control. Dress up and you should be ready to go if you take your foreign passport. I can't say much since I prefer places with cougars. One last thing, if you run out of luck....the clubs close around 4am and there are plenty of girls who walk the street after clubbing and some waiting for a cab. I would use that time period to game one in case you haven't already.
Triangulo de angelopolis - Ritzy place, like la 14 but for wealthy people.
There's your local club chain, Classico, waiting for you. Waste of time in my opinion. People come in groups, place is expensive and the demographics are close to la 14, making la 14 a better place.
Also, Damtshaa....regarded as the best club in the City. People of all ages go there. It's expensive, face control active, and better to go in groups. You will see girls get wasted, and dance on top of the sofas/seats/etc. Also, you can buy colombian "red bulls" there if that's what you're into. It's better than Classico and the best place to pull a girl. Since the same people go over there, girls will see a new face and welcome you.
La Paz: Upper-middle class area with good clubs, streets are normal (3 lanes) as opposed to the other's 4-5 lane streets.
Prince - Competes with Damtshaa as the best club. Very fancy and people of all ages go there. PLENTY OF TABLES. You've been warned.
La juarez: Used to be the main street a few decades ago, now it's a place where the middle class goes and looks like a sausage fest. Mostly bars and such, and the some parts smell like sewer.
Barrio del Artista/Centro Historico Pueblas main town square area. The area I'm talking about is big but the closer to the center, the safer it is. BdA is a bit far and there people are known to get mugged. I lost 2 cell phones there while surveying the area. Not many people in CH, and more hang around BdA. Good place to get normal local girls if you want to improve your ego, the prices around there are cheap. The city is trying to close the bars down and make it into a yuppie area.
Streets
Calle 5 de mayo - Street that is closed off to traffic, only used for walking. Starts/ends on Puebla's Zocalo and goes down from there.
Atlixcayotl - Mini highway that connects Southern Puebla (better off Puebla) to Cholula. Angelopolis is here, so is Tec De Monterrey and Masaryk.
La Recta - Connects Puebla City to Cholula, it's just a highway so nothing much is here.
El Circuito - It's a highway ring that circles puebla.
Avenida 5 de mayo - Main street that passes through Puebla City, it houses Plaza Dorada, BUAP, highway to Mexico City, central bus station, and general attorney's office.
Areas to stay
Angelopolis - Nice area with either homes or condos/apts, Angelopolis is the area on or near Atlixcayotl. pretty safe with security around and heavy police presence. Think about it as little Europe but still in Mexico. Developed/ing, Benzes around, but you will see public transportation busses around and before you know it's an undeveloped area with dirt on your shoes for a few blocks. Expensive as fuck. Say you live here and panties will drop. Some apartments on AnB are about 120/day or 1800 month. There's a Costco and Commercial Mexicana nearby.
La Paz / Las Animas- Nice upper class area that is calm and less expensive than Angelo. Unfortunately there's no condos or apartments, houses for the most part. It's close to Cholula and the Angelopolis area but in Puebla city. Fully developed and there are taco stands closeby. There's a Walmart nearby.
Downtown Puebla - Far away from the good stuff, clubs and univs. Only hotels because apartments are used are whorehouses with lice and such. Safety? LOL, it's okay. Best hotel - La purificadora. It's very colonial with great views. If you want a little more budget friendly place go to NH, great views from there too.
San Manuel - Another middle/upper area of Puebla. Far away from the fun but close to the moms.
Don't go to northern puebla city, it's unsafe for people who don't look "mexican". Most of the time will get resentment from people because you are supposedly racist and treat Mexicans horribly, or a mugging. Panty dropping from the local girls is difficult due to fear from being judge....supposedly! They will panty drop when they aren't in their area. You can get some great rental deals, like 1000 pesos room per month, but you will bathe with buckets.
Cholula - Best place to live, places can range from cheap to expensive. Everything is close by and there are OXXOs within walking distance.
Transportation
Rent a car. A cheap atos is like 8 USD/day before fees and such, probably like 11/day. A trascity trip (BUAP-Zocalo Cholula) will run to 100 pesos during the day to 150 at night), most trips will be around 50-80 pesos per trip. During the day you will run to about 400-600 pesos per day on taxis. Sure, there's public transportation. It used to be around 3 pesos/ride a decade ago, now it's about 6.50 or 7 per ride. Risks? Pickpocketing, especially if you're a foreigner. People bitching about you. Good place to pick up girls, if a person they know is not nearby.
Vehicles will tell girls you have more value (especially in a superficial city) and honestly, it's easier to move around the city in a car. HOWEVER, as a tourist you get exempt from this rule...women have told me "I understand if you don't have a car. You can ride mine. Why would a tourist buy one for a few days?"
Get the "sitio taxis", they have the name of their company on the side windows and rear mirrors. They are much safer and cleaner. You only pay 1-1.50 USD (12-20 pesos) more per ride. Either way, if you want them to wait for you, set the price beforehand. I forgot to say this and my rate doubled, if he does it....it's your choice to pay. If you find a good cabbie, ask him for his number and tell him to give you a hour rate. My cabbie gives charges me 110/pesos (9.50 USD) hour in a brand new executive Jetta with no decals. I just say he's my personal driver, people think I'm rich. As an incentive, I buy him drinks.
Best Taxis? Top Driver, from Estrella Roja's 4 PTE, inside the bus station. They are clean, professional, and drive new white VW cars (again, with the VW influence in Puebla). I think the cars are Jettas and Touaregs. DON'T FORGET, Cabbies are the best source of information. They know the best clubs, places to stay, etc. They pull a lot of women too, college girls to rich milfs.
If I miss something, reply and I'll try to answer.
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