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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer
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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer

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In the past year a close friend of mine named Bob was diagnosed with cancer. While I was familiar with the disease, I didn’t know the best way to help him. More than one year later, with his treatment completed, I’m ready to share some advice on what you can do if a friend or relative is diagnosed with the disease.
What Is Cancer?

Cancer is when a specific type of cell within your body, like a lung cell or a blood cell, somehow mutates and starts replicating at a faster rate than normal cells. These mutated cells lose their original function and exist just to multiply and steal resources from normal cells, which is why one of the first symptoms of cancer is fatigue (this was true for Bob).
The cancer cells are initially localized in their own compact ghetto, called a tumor, but if they break off and spread to the rest of the body, the disease becomes “malignant.” The cancer cells now interfere with organ function, eventually causing the person to die.
There is continued debate on what causes cancer, especially since it’s not only becoming more prevalent, but affecting younger populations. Scientific research, which has become increasingly dubious and controlled by money interests, points towards “environment” for being the cause. But which parts of the environment?
We don’t know for sure, but I do know that if vaccines, plastics, GMO food, and food additives were the cause of these increased cancers, we would never find out about it because of the tens of billions of dollars at stake for companies that produce those products. In Bob’s case, he did possess a mutated gene that is linked to a higher cancer rate, but even with a mutated gene, a poor environment can lower the age of disease onset and increase its severity.
Welcome To Modern Cancer Treatment

Cancer treatment will often include three phases: surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation. Surgery aims to physically remove the tumor and most of the cancer cells, hopefully before they spread. Chemotherapy is a combination of different drugs that aims to kill cancer cells. Radiation uses high energy rays to kill cancer cells at a specific site. It used to be that surgery was the first step but now chemotherapy often starts off the treatment to soften up the tumor and kill straggler cells that can’t be seen when the tumor is removed during surgery.
After Bob consulted with the best doctors in his city, there was a consensus that the treatment sequence should be chemotherapy, surgery, and then radiation. Total time for the entire treatment course was ten months, where Bob’s life would be turned upside down. Wracked with stress from this unexpected diagnosis, I felt it was my duty as a friend to help him through the ordeal.
I crammed as much on cancer as I could, which wasn’t too difficult since I have a degree in microbiology and was already informed on the disease. I was able to confirm that Bob’s treatment was the most modern standard that had the highest chance of increasing his 5-year survival rate, but the more I got into learning about chemotherapy, the more I become concerned because of the incredibly toxic effects it has on the body.
The Disturbing History Of Chemotherapy

Nearly 100 years ago, on a World War I battlefield in Belgium, soldiers began randomly developing blisters and sores. Some coughed up blood. It turned out that they were poisoned by mustard gas deployed by the Germans, and died weeks later. Thousands of men were killed by the gas during the war.
Upon noticing how efficient the mustard gas kills white blood cells, scientists started testing out the gas against blood cancers. Sixty years later, this drug is still used to treat some cancers, and it was part of the regime for Bob’s chemo treatment. The lobotomy procedure, where an ice pick is jammed in your nose to destroy your frontal cortex, is a newer treatment than some chemo drugs. Not only does chemo have horrible side effects, but it increases your risk of getting other cancers.
We give patients drugs that increase their odds of getting more of the same disease. Let that sink in for a minute. Can you imagine having an infection in your body and taking a drug that may alleviate this infection with the expectation that it will cause a more serious infection in the future at other parts of your body? It’s almost like playing a torturous game of whack-a-mole with your life.
Chemo drugs theoretically kill fast-growing cells faster than normal ones, meaning that it is more likely to kill cancer kills, but there is no mistake that chemo kills all cells. In the middle of treatment, Bob told me that “it feels like I’m dying.” He wasn’t far off. The point of the treatment is to kill all the cancer cells right before the patient would die, because if you continue a chemo cocktail for just a month or two longer than you should, the patient becomes irrevocably disabled or does die, something that can’t be said for most other medical treatments in existence. It was emotional to see Bob lose his hair (even his eyebrows), gain over twenty pounds in water weight, take on a ghostly pallor, and become a weakened shell of his former vigorous self.
I searched for alternatives to chemo, but besides some promising research on massive doses of Vitamin C, all I found were shady sites promoting just about every household product as a cure, including baking soda, lemon juice, and even water. There was also vitamin “cures,” many of which you can find explained without evidence on Youtube. I didn’t have enough conclusive data to tell Bob to ditch the chemo and try something else.
Surgery was straightforward and a far easier ordeal than chemo. They put him on a table, sliced him open, removed all visible sign of the tumor, and patched him back up. Within two weeks he was moving around normally.
Radiation seems easy on paper, since it’s just ten minutes a day of getting zapped by high powered rays for a month or longer. Just like with chemo, however, the side effects accumulate. The skin turns red then purple then black. Then it oozes and makes it extremely difficult to move. But hey, it’s better than chemo. I quickly learned that the term “cancer survivor” is really centered around living through chemotherapy, not surgery or radiation.
What the medical establishment doesn’t tell you is that when someone dies of chemotherapy, they say “the patient died from cancer.” But it was the chemo that actually killed him. As you can tell by now, I was in disbelief that this treatment is used on humans.
Thankfully for Bob, he survived all three rounds of treatment. A recent test showed that he is currently cancer free. I’m thankful for this and can now impart the lessons I’ve learned from his ordeal to help others who are impacted by this disease.
How To Help Someone Who Has Been Diagnosed With Cancer

This is what cancer ultimately comes down to:

dozens of doctor visits that take a huge amount of time
assembly-line medical treatment from doctors who have been trained not to get emotionally attached to patients
intense physical pain
inability to take care of oneself and work full time, leading to lower income
psychological suffering in thinking that you may die
guilty feelings of being a burden upon others

Anything you do to help someone with cancer should attempt to alleviate the above problems, which fit into the following four roles:
1. Caretaker
2. Doctor buddy
3. Moneybags
4. Philosopher clown
Caretaker
Often reserved for family members, the caretaker does the heavy legwork where the cancer victim lives. They cook, clean, and try to make the sufferer as comfortable as possible. They also monitor for sudden changes in symptoms that may require an urgent call to the doctor, which can typically happen towards the end of chemo when the side effects are most severe.
Action items: do the dishes, take out the trash, do a load of laundry, sweep/vacuum/clean house, cook a big meal that lasts a couple of days, change bed sheets, help sufferer bathe (if needed).
Doctor Buddy
It’s helpful for the sufferer to be chauffeured to the doctor’s and have someone sit with them. If you are close with the sufferer, you can also go in the examination room and fire off questions to the doctor that he is too reluctant to ask (you can be the “bad cop” to ensure the best treatment). I also recommend doing a basic check on the doctor’s treatment protocol with your own research.
Action items: take sufferer to doctor, sit in waiting room, ask questions to doctor, alleviate boredom, run off to get coffee/tea/snacks.
Moneybags
Moneybags writes the checks. Besides the prospect of dying, Bob’s biggest concern was money, even though he had health insurance. It’s not that the out-of-pocket health costs were expensive but the lost income from not being able to work made it hard for Bob to pay existing bills. A donation drive among friends was done to help Bob out along with more direct donations, but even small things like buying a few day’s worth of groceries and filling up the gas tank was a big help to him.
Action items: pay a bill, buy lunch, buy groceries, fill up the gas tank, start a donation drive, ask friends to give money, send a monthly check.
Philosopher Clown
The philosopher clown entertains the sufferer with humor and jokes while throwing in stoic or religious lessons that put the disease in context. For Bob, I tried to steer his mind off worst-case scenarios and focus on the positives of what was going on. You don’t want to let the sufferer slip into a mental slump where they start doubting if it’s worth continuing their existence. If the mind gives up the will to live, the body will soon follow.
Action items: make sufferer laugh, get their mind out of negative thinking, teach helpful beliefs, encourage sufferer that they can successfully complete treatment.
From the above roles, you can see that giving kind words without actionable help is nearly useless to the sufferer. I was disappointed with how many people close to Bob told him empty platitudes on Facebook like “You’ll be okay” and “You’ll beat this” before disappearing. A cancer sufferer will hear these things so many times during treatment that they quickly lose meaning, and they are no substitute for being physically there with the sufferer or sending in some money.
It’s also demoralizing for a sufferer to hear “You’ll be fine” so many times, even from doctors, and then have to experience a setback or problem in cancer treatment, which is likely to happen. If you don’t have a crystal ball that can see into the future, don’t try to predict it.
A better strategy is to be realistic about the current stage of treatment and then offer help. Here are some examples:
Bad: “I believe in you and will pray for you.”
Good: “Only three more infusions to go and then you’re done. We’ll get through this. How can I help?”
Bad: “I know a friend that had a much worse cancer than you and she’s absolutely fine now after drinking a gallon of grapefruit juice.”
Good: “You’re way stronger than I am. Can I buy you lunch or fill up your gas tank?”
Bad: “I’m so sorry this happened to you. I don’t want you to die.” Sobs uncontrollably.
Good: “I’m off on Thursday, let me drive you to to the doctor. Don’t worry, you don’t have to entertain me and can be silent if you want.”
As you can see from the above, words are cheap compared to concrete action. I also saw how people became so depressed about Bob’s illness that he had to lift them up. While it’s nice that people empathized with Bob’s situation, if he had to use his limited energy to be your own psychological coach, you were a burden to him. Don’t bring your own anxieties, fears, and morose attitude to the home of a cancer sufferer. If you’re crying in the sufferer’s presence but he’s not, you’re failing miserably.
Two Problems With Cancer Treatment (Besides Chemotherapy)

A huge problem with cancer treatment is the complete lack of psychological help. While a doctor is more than ready to pump you full of drugs or slice you open, they offer absolutely zero mental guidance for what amounts to the most traumatic episode of your life. You are completely on your own after a cancer diagnosis, and if you don’t have proper mental grounding beforehand, you will have a hard time fighting the disease.
If I get diagnosed with cancer right now, I think I’d be able to understand the disease in relation to my life, but that’s because I’ve been meditating on death for years (I even read a book called Making Friends With Death), all while mastering psychological strategies based on stoicism to deal with suffering. The average person hasn’t done this, so the mental effects of a cancer diagnosis will be just as hard on them as the physical side effects from treatment.
There is also no psychological help after you’re done. They send you out into the world and essentially tell you to call them if you think the cancer came back, but this does nothing to alleviate the intense anxiety in thinking the cancer will ravage you once more. It’s similar to the post-traumatic stress that a soldier has after returning from a war.
Secondly, there is too much financial incentive in the current protocol of treatment for it to change. While I don’t believe a doctor involved in Bob’s care tried to get rich off his disease, the dozens of doctor visits, medical infusions, scans, surgeries, and so on is a lucrative business for everyone involved.
Cancer infusion centers that dispense chemotherapy are starting to look like factories—they are hyper-optimized with the purpose of quickly and efficiently dealing with a huge amount of patients based on established protocols that never rock the boat, and an infusion room I saw with over forty chairs was creepily productive. The care is competent, but Bob was essentially a widget on an assembly line where empathy and love were simulated in bursts but never genuine.
If a cancer cure was discovered today that completely dismantled the cancer treatment system, the medical establishment would have no choice to fight it unless they were ready to lose tens of thousands of jobs and billions in revenue. It may be hard to accept that the medical community values their interests just as much—if not more—as the interests of the patients they took an oath to treat, but unfortunately I believe this to be the case, especially for those at the top of the medical community who have the greatest financial incentive in maintaining the status quo. I trust a doctor no more than I trust a man selling me a used car, as I strongly suspect that the treatment doctors give their patients is not what they would give themselves.
Conclusion
Cancer diagnoses are going up, and so-called scientific experts are flailing their arms in confusion because solving the problem would threaten lucrative sectors of the economy. This means that patients getting cancer treatment right now will be seen in 100 years in the same way we see lobotomy victims today. The current protocol of chemotherapy, surgery, and radiation is too profitable for any paradigm change to be forthcoming, so I expect them to retain this medical standard for the rest of our lives.
I’m extremely skeptical of the current protocol, but I may take chemotherapy if I get cancer. I wouldn’t mind experimenting on a slow-growing tumor with some nutritional experiments, but if I had a fast-growing cancer that already spread to my lymph nodes or beyond, I’d probably go with the mustard gas, even though I know it would probably kill me before the cancer does. The best strategy seems to be not getting cancer in the first place.
Because the incidence of cancer is increasing so quickly, chances are you will have to deal with a diagnosis for someone close to you during your lifetime. I hope you are able to help them through a hellish treatment protocol that will last nearly a year of their life. I was more than happy to help Bob get through his cancer. If it comes back, I told him not to worry, because we’ll do whatever we can to beat it just like we did the first time.
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My brother's wife died of cancer at a time they had a one year old son. It tore him up. I was going to college about 300 miles away. For 3 or 4 months, I would drive home on the weekends and just be there for him and her. Early death sucks big time, for everyone associated with them. As hard as it was, my brother grew from the experience. As a single parent, he did what he had to. About a year later, he remarried and moved on with his life. Once a year, he will fly with his son to Florida to visit the grandparents who lost their daughter.

"A huge problem with cancer treatment is the complete lack of psychological help." Amen to that. But then, I don't think there is anything a shrink can tell you that would be better advice than your close friends or family.
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Medicine has been one of the elitist pet projects. There had been many types of Doctors 100 years ago. The industrialists pushed allopathy, probably because it had the most potential for profit. Allopathy says you must drive disease out of the body usually using drugs. Fishbein(read some stuff on how much of an evil soul this man was) took over the AMA and removed nutrition from medicine. The AMA has funded and been convicted of slandering Chiropractors(often the only refuge for alternative medicine). They fund websites like quackwatch.com that regularly publishes false "takedowns" of alternative medicine. Licensing actually has the opposite effect that you would expect-instead of improving care it creates an artificial monopoly. Milton Friedman(Nobel prize winning economist) goes into great detail about the monopoly of the AMA, and I strongly recommend seeing a few of his entertaining videos about this online. The insurance companies finally broke some of the monopoly of the doctors, but still it wasn't the right way to fix the problem. One of the simplest treatments you can do for cancer is taking hyperthermic baths, you just need one bathtub and a good thermometer. Plenty of studies have been done on hyperthermia and its effectiveness on cancer in Europe(odd somehow the treatment just never made it to the US). Also if you look at a worldwide map of cancer, its pretty obvious that cancer generally increases the farther you get from the equator (and probably why places like Finland have such a strong sauna culture). I won't get into all of the research I've gotten into in Alt cancer treatments, because around here it seems to fall on deaf ears, but its a known thing that for example if you do the Gerson Therapy if you've already taken chemo, your chances of survival just went way down. The cancer industry is part of Agenda 21 and they might as well fleece you before they kill you(average cancer patient pays $50k). Thank you come again. TCM and Ayurveda are two levels above our current medicine..they've been doing A-B testing for health for over a thousand years, and it shows. Remember that so much of our impression of Medicine produced by Entertainment and Media,the same people who brought us Obama and Hillary. This is not an accident. The simplest argument against any doctor is that the average patient has a longer lifespan than the average doctors. They really don't know.

I've been able to drastically improve my health with what I've learned.
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please start a thread, post what you know (or some sources we can study)
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^And learn to use some fucking paragraphs while you're at it lol.
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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer

Roosh, put this on ROK if it isn't already, it is not just for cancer but for illness in general. Our generation (and our parents) haven't learned this stuff, it would be good to teach a new generation how to actually help struggling people.
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Thanks for about posting this.
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Theres a doctor up in Boston that wrote a book on how cancer is not genetic but in fact metabolic.

Every single cancer cell has this fact in common: their mitochondria are severely damaged or destroyed. Mitochondria combine fat or sugar with oxygen to create cellular energy. Cancer cells cannot do this, so they use the cells backup system: fermentation. Fermentation is done in the cytosol without the use of oxygen, can only use sugar, is far less efficient and creates lactic acid as a byproduct. When a person has a heart attack the cells resort to fermentation, which leaks the lactic acid that causes the intense pain in the chest and arm.

His studies have proven that cancer can be prevented, and cancer cells even starved to death, by taking on a purely fat and protein based diet. This also explains why cancer patients have returned to Southern Europe and their symptoms went away.

However, as we all know here in redpill land, cancer is big business and money can't be made off something as simple as a diet. The history actually goes back to WW2, when cancer was labeled a metabolic disease by a German scientist (Otto Warburg), which was the common theory at the time.

After watching a close friend pass away from cancer at the age of 30 I discovered the Warburg Effect. The fact that they had my friend on a IV of glucose around the clock pisses me off to no end.
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High glucose levels have been shown to accelerate cancer cell proliferation in vitro, while glucose deprivation has led to apoptosis. These findings have initiated further study of the effects of carbohydrate restriction on tumor growth. Clinical evidence shows that lower blood glucose levels in late-stage cancer patients have been correlated with better outcomes.

Source: https://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Metabolic-...470584920, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_effect

“There is no global anthem, no global currency, no certificate of global citizenship. We pledge allegiance to one flag, and that flag is the American flag!” -DJT
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Doctor Buddy

I cannot personally emphasise strongly enough how important this is, not just with cancer but with any serious illness a loved one is suffering from.

I can say with certainty that I saved my wife's life on two occasions during a very difficult pregnancy, once by questioning a doctor and a second time by questioning a nurse. If I were not there then nobody would have been able to stand up for her when she got half-assed care from people who didn't give a shit if she lived or died.

Being sick puts you in an extremely low energy state where you feel weak and you're unnaturally compelled to comply with everything you're told. Having a healthy person there to read through the material, check the charts and determine where lazy or incompetent staff are screwing up is absolutely essential.

A good friend of mine who's wife is a nurse repeatedly comes home with horror stories about people who die well before their time because doctors and nurses are too lazy to do paperwork or check vital signs. The family are simply told "sorry, but there were complications" and because they think they're dealing with professionals they don't dig deeper when in reality malpractice would surely cost thousands of lives a year in my country alone.

Believe it.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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But I´ve been banned for trashing doctors from the forum. Doctors and pharmaceuticals=scum of earth.

Doctors don´t have an easy job though. They´re between two lobbies: Pharma and food.

Imagine you discover the cure of cancer is oranges. How do you patent it? Who will pay for the studies and publish? Who will commercialize it? How will you bribe doctors to implement it?

This should be the most heavily scrutinized sector of society. But it´s too specific. So you would need doctors to control doctors. Only someone with medical knowckledge could control. But it´s a mafia. They protect each other.

Did you realize there´s no doctors politicians? Sure one or two. But for such a prestigious profession the percentage is ridiculous. They don´t like the spotlight. they like the darkness so that their job is not scrutinized. Fuck them.

I read this book once:

http://www.anticancerbook.com/

It was a doctor who discovered he had a brain cancer. A tumor. He then researched and published everything he found out about it. From what I remenber if you don´t want to read it. He gave big enphasis on green tea. Mediterrean food. And the fact cancer it´s mostly an immune problem. It´s an inflamatory process. So your food should be anti-inflamatory.

When you have big factors of stress a cancer can develop. Specially traumatic events: A divorce, the death of a loved one, losing a job, etc.

It´s all about the food.

“Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”

― Hippocrates

Of course this shit could be sorted our quickly. But we must comply with the club of Rome agenda.

Hell not while ago the cure of aids was discovered and the president of the AIDS association was against it. LOOOOOLLLL. Fucking pariah. He doesn´t want it to be discovered so he can keep his job.

You know what I did this weekend. An offer for a house in the countryside. For now all my food will come from there. Fuck all this crazy liberals. Monsanto´s. You go fight them. I´m sick of this pizzagaters. Unless you can make a fund. Of the brightest of this forum. And start waging cash war. Not info war. CASH WAR. we´re just jerking off each other. It´s pleasant to read this forum though. But no real consequences. Just people talking in a bar about what should be done.

I will put up 1k for this fund but I want a return of 8%. I can get more than this elsewhere.

LET THE MIGHTY BAN HAMMER COME!
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Quote: (12-08-2016 10:43 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  

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please start a thread, post what you know (or some sources we can study)
I would say probably the single best consistently good source is naturalnews.com. There are really alot of anticancer substances in ancient diets and practices, and surprise surprise, all of our current diets avoid anticancer substances, and increase procancer foods.

I'm surprised someone mentioned warburg..he should have gotten two nobel prizes not just one. Warburg was amazed by the fact that cancer cells had such a very different, and archaic he thought metabolism. He called it fermentation, kind of like how yeast ferments sugar without oxygen to make alcohol. Its extremely inefficient, about 5% as efficient as regular cellular respiration. He believed that it was primarily lack of oxygen and excess of acid that caused cancer and did some animal cancer studies that confirmed much of this. Cancer isn't just abnormal cells-puting malignant cancer cells into another healthy mouse, often stops the malignancy. This is a good proof that it is a mixture of cell damage and environment.

Another interesting subject is Pancreatic enzymes. These are specifically meant to break down meat, but it looks like they also travel through your blood stream and digest cancer. No suprise pancreatic cancer is one of the most deadly forms of cancer. And there are decent cancer treatments that use pancreatic enzymes.

To me one of the very very key aspects of health is the culling of damaged, inefficient cells. This doesn't happen automatically. Things like hyperthermia, high amounts of certain spices and herbs, acidosis(exercise) tend to remove the weakest cells, and spur your body to produce new cells. You can link every single disease of old age to nothing more than an inability to produce energy in a cell. A good proof of this is that there are people who are just born with genetic defects in mitochondria(mitochondrial disease). Now look at the symptoms that a 20 year old who should be in the prime of his life can have because of these defects. http://www.mitoresearch.org/img/img_body_organs.gif

Just starting to regularly use the top ten spices and herbs of Ayurveda and TCM is probably a good place to start. Regular saunas, especially after exercise do wonders. Fo-Ti, chili, tumeric, ginger, curry, bittermelon etc(trader joes is probably the best source). And as I say in HIGH doses. It seems that some herbs target certain organs. Fasting is another big deal, but I still havent done an extended fast so I can't say too much. One funny thing is my heat tolerance, exercise tolerance, and spice tolerance have all gone up together.

The last thing I will say, is try things, especially if they sound harmless, you can try a boatload of things for $70 and that wont even get you in the door for a doctor visit.
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Check this out:

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/
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Great post Roosh. I went through something similar with a good friend and you covered a lot of the same things I would have said. Just a couple of quick things to add:

- When someone is first diagnosed and it becomes public, they may have a lot of people who offer to help, bring them stuff, etc. You, as a good friend, can take a step back during this time and save yourself ... because your friend is going to need you later. It's a long, long, brutal fight. The more casual friends/relatives will flock at first, then become more and more scarce over time. In the meantime, the patient will become weaker, and weaker, needing more and more help. It's after most of those casual friends have moved on that your friend will really need you.

- In this case, or any case where you are helping out a male friend who is stricken by something, help out in ways that let them keep their dignity as much as possible. Just do things, without making a big deal about it. Don't expect anything, don't make them ask, just do stuff and act like it goes without saying and isn't worth mentioning. Both in how you do and how you say things, always be considering how to maintain the frame that they are still the same man they ever were, just working through some difficulties ... a wounded warrior and you are helping them limp off the battlefield with dignity. You have to protect them from idiots who don't maintain that frame. I think that probably comes naturally to a lot of people here, but it won't to everyone involved. Honestly that's also pretty closely related to how I think you should relate to older men as well. They were once strong, proud, men, and just further down the road where everyone goes ... treat them with the respect you hope you get someday. Being attacked from within will take the strength from the strongest man, but it doesn't change who they are.
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Denmark has the highest rate of cancer in the world.

Greece has one of the lowest in the developed countries. I´m now studying the blue zones.
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I just finished the book "The Emperor of all Maladies", it won a Pulitzer, and can't recommend it highly enough.

https://www.amazon.ca/Emperor-All-Maladi...1439170916

Essentially is a history of cancer, it starts with the very first instances of it thousands of years ago, to first successes curing it by cutting, misguided lanes doctors went down (cutting more is better) along with the early minor successes in things like certain types of childhood leukemia, the testing of literally millions of compounds for chemo, and the development of various cocktails along with accidental discoveries such as the nitrogen mustard Roosh mentioned. It talks about how radiation therapy came about, and a lot of the competing facets that doctors face in the battle, such as that you need to kill cells to kill cancer, but its extremely difficult for drugs differentiate between cancer and normal cells, that certain drugs can encourage the growth of drug-resistant cancers, or that radiation can kill cancer, but at the same time increase risks for others.

Goes deep into funding and research over the years, literally billions of dollars spent and the political/professional fights that occurred along the way. It gets into the long long journey to discover exactly what cancer was, all the different types of cancer and how they differ and respond to different things. It talks about certain competing groups/surgeons and the power games that were played for funding and the trials that were done, competing ideas like that cancer was viral, or that all cancer stemmed from a common cause and thus had a common cure, and the doctors who staked careers on their positions. Mentions how carcinogens were first identified, the fights and trials and decades to convince people that something blindingly obvious today like that smoking causes it, and even how the idea of carcinogens came about.

Finishes with getting into genetics, DNA, and identifying exactly what causes/contributes to cancer at a chromosome/genetic level. It delves into a bit of cell biology and some of the latest drugs which can attack cancer cells at that level, by interrupting the pathways and protein chain reactions that the cancer cells use to proliferate, but then also how the cells can evolve and find alternate pathways to multiply.

As someone who only knew the basics of cancer and who didn't even take biology in high school, this book really helped explain the history of it, what it was and was not at a nuts and bolts level, and how the treatments work. Given that I had two grandparents with cancer, one of whom died, this book really offered a lot of clarity.
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Roosh.. here I will disagree.. not because your write up is not well researched..

But because there is a body of knowledge that is not known to all.. Ayurveda..

I've PERSONALLY SEEN, people's un-treatable Tumors & Cancers get healed on that pathway.. I do not wish to get into arguments here.. about the Pharma lobby controlled Medical research & Scientific Journals who discredit the pathway.. Just IGNORE this post.
Those who wish to Explore this pathway.. can choose to..

To me the EVIDENCE was in Front of my eyes.. for almost 7/8 years (time I got into Meditation & yoga) I've gone from skeptic to researching it deeply.. trying things myself and on consultation with docs..

Experiencing its wisdom (in practice).. and seeing my health & others (family, friends, acquaintances) health change.. to me is reality..

Last year I ran into (at the Ayurvedic docs place) someone who had undergone several rounds of chemo etc etc.. and when they mentioned that the first thing the gifted doc pointed out when they met.. 1. You do not have Cancer 2. The post partum scenario from few years back (cant post details) has caused this imbalance.. They were shocked that within few minutes this ordinary looking fellow could point out all this..

To ME every such experience is Proof.. take it.. or Leave it [Image: smile.gif] Choice is yours.

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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer

Quote: (01-15-2017 03:50 PM)Troller Wrote:  

Denmark has the highest rate of cancer in the world.

Greece has one of the lowest in the developed countries. I´m now studying the blue zones.

Any dis-ease, first starts in the mind, not in the body.. - Ayurveda..

Typically, The less stressful & happier an individual or collective during a time/ generation the better of their health..

Again, add to this the "Bad food" & "urban lifestyle" and kaput..!

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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer

Quote: (12-08-2016 10:16 AM)slppryslp Wrote:  

Medicine has been one of the elitist pet projects. There had been many types of Doctors 100 years ago. The industrialists pushed allopathy, probably because it had the most potential for profit. Allopathy says you must drive disease out of the body usually using drugs. Fishbein(read some stuff on how much of an evil soul this man was) took over the AMA and removed nutrition from medicine. The AMA has funded and been convicted of slandering Chiropractors(often the only refuge for alternative medicine). They fund websites like quackwatch.com that regularly publishes false "takedowns" of alternative medicine. Licensing actually has the opposite effect that you would expect-instead of improving care it creates an artificial monopoly. Milton Friedman(Nobel prize winning economist) goes into great detail about the monopoly of the AMA, and I strongly recommend seeing a few of his entertaining videos about this online. The insurance companies finally broke some of the monopoly of the doctors, but still it wasn't the right way to fix the problem. One of the simplest treatments you can do for cancer is taking hyperthermic baths, you just need one bathtub and a good thermometer. Plenty of studies have been done on hyperthermia and its effectiveness on cancer in Europe(odd somehow the treatment just never made it to the US). Also if you look at a worldwide map of cancer, its pretty obvious that cancer generally increases the farther you get from the equator (and probably why places like Finland have such a strong sauna culture). I won't get into all of the research I've gotten into in Alt cancer treatments, because around here it seems to fall on deaf ears, but its a known thing that for example if you do the Gerson Therapy if you've already taken chemo, your chances of survival just went way down. The cancer industry is part of Agenda 21 and they might as well fleece you before they kill you(average cancer patient pays $50k). Thank you come again. TCM and Ayurveda are two levels above our current medicine..they've been doing A-B testing for health for over a thousand years, and it shows. Remember that so much of our impression of Medicine produced by Entertainment and Media,the same people who brought us Obama and Hillary. This is not an accident. The simplest argument against any doctor is that the average patient has a longer lifespan than the average doctors. They really don't know.

I've been able to drastically improve my health with what I've learned.

I did not see anyone else mention this.. Good to see the RP crowd is realizing and recognizing the ancient WELLNESS & MEDICAL systems. I live by it.

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What To Do If Someone Close To You Gets Diagnosed With Cancer

Relevant. Worth a share. Zero background in medical, so do you your own research.

G. Edward Griffin, the same author of the famous book detailing the history of the Federal Reserve, "The Creature from Jekyll Island", also wrote a book called a "World Without Cancer." I read it probably 8 years ago and don't recall the minute details. The film below is essentially the book. But in a nutshell there's a vitamin called Laetril/Amygdalin (Vitamin B17) found in the seeds of apricots, apples, plums etc. It's been classified by "official" agencies like the FDA as toxic. But, in his book he goes onto describe a giant cover up in the 60's and 70's I believe it was by the medical establishment and big pharma to suppress this alternative treatment for cancer patients. Extracting this vitamin and injecting it into mice with cancer was found effective. They're argument was is that it can't necessarily cure one of cancer completely, but if one has been diagnosed and caught early enough, if you take this stuff it can slow and even shrink the growth and make it very manageable. Combined with modern medicine it could be cured. The other theory was that if you eat apricot seeds regularly throughout your life it can drastically reduce the chances of one developing cancer. When the actor Steve McQueen was diagnosed with cancer, he had gone to Mexico to seek laetrile treatment. But, by the time he made the move, it was too far metastasized and he didn't make it.

After I read the book, I became intrigued and ordered a bag of raw apricot seeds offline. Super bitter, and they taste horrible. You have to crush them up and put them in orange juice or a shake to mask the flavor. If I ever get stable again, I'd still take them. Why not, nothing to lose.

From the first page of Griffin's book: Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."






https://www.cancertutor.com/faq_laetrile/

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