[Ogunn]

There is a girl in my dance class that is stunningly beautiful. By stunning I mean her face is literally flawless. She is Russian, I think. She has big almond shaped brown eyes, a perky nose, medium high cheek bones, and full lips. Her hair is dyed blonde and curly and reaches down to her lower back. For reference, she looks like Elsa Hosk (see pic) only with brown eyes, perkier nose, and more natural looking lips.

She is 5 ‘7’. I have not seen her in tight clothing. I have danced with her enough to know she is probably a b cup and has a flat stomach. Her legs are slender and toned. Something about her makes me think ballerina. I was introduced to this class by a mutual female friend.

She has given me a couple of IOIs by complementing my progress in dancing, I have only taken two classes. She asked “Where is your friend” the other night. I know she knows my friend by name. I think she used “friend” to see if I would respond with “She is my girlfriend or wife”. Either way I think she was probing to see if we are more than just friends.

We all usually go out dancing at nearby club after class. I noticed the other girls she associates with are not attractive. And they all speak Russian, maybe they are related? She also seemed a little giddy / self-conscious. I am not I am not used to women of that caliber of beauty acting that way.

It all makes me wonder if she is really an ugly girl that got work done or if she is really a natural beauty?

Any tips you could provide to help me figure this out would be greatly appreciated!

[roberto]

Why does it bother you? Game on! Sounds like potential LTR material if you're that way inclined.

Anyway mate, remember- she's only flawless to you. Right this moment. No matter how hot the girl, someone, somewhere, is sick of her shit

[Ogunn]

(10-12-2016 11:37 AM)roberto Wrote:  

Why does it bother you? Game on! Sounds like potential LTR material if you're that way inclined.

Anyway mate, remember- she's only flawless to you. Right this moment. No matter how hot the girl, someone, somewhere, is sick of her shit

If she has had work done that means its all fake. In other words an illusion. Which is a huge turn off to me!

[Beirut]

How can we possibly answer without seeing her (even then it wont be conclusive).

But anyway a lot of russian girls have doll like faces with small noses and round cheekbones.

Her lips may or may not be fake.

Unless she looks plastic its not a big deal

[DaveR]

PM me or anyone else on the forum with significant time in Russia.

They often do something with their lips, but that's all. The rest is usually makeup, which they are very skilled at.

[Screemingdead]

Ugh dance class..

[General Stalin]

Yeah bro sounds like she is too good looking you should pass 2/10

[TornadoByProxy]

No. She didn't have work done. If she was the type of person to have work done, she wouldn't give you the time of day.

Sounds like you can't handle the company of a beautiful woman.

[Mushroom]

Does it matter? If she looks good, she looks good. As long as she doesn't look like this:



...You should be good. Practically every single famous woman has had plastic surgery and I don't think that would stop you from fucking any of them.

If you're attracted to the way she looks then try to get the bang. If you see her without makeup and she's hideous then just don't turn it into a LTR, but keep banging as long as she wears makeup.

I mean, just look at this gallery of pornstars without makeout:

http://imgur.com/gallery/1hDv6SC

[Vinny]

(10-12-2016 11:16 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  


There is a girl in my dance class that is stunningly beautiful. By stunning I mean her face is literally flawless. She is Russian, I think. She has big almond shaped brown eyes, a perky nose, medium high cheek bones, and full lips. Her hair is dyed blonde and curly and reaches down to her lower back. For reference, she looks like Elsa Hosk (see pic) only with brown eyes, perkier nose, and more natural looking lips.

She is 5 ‘7’. I have not seen her in tight clothing. I have danced with her enough to know she is probably a b cup and has a flat stomach. Her legs are slender and toned. Something about her makes me think ballerina. I was introduced to this class by a mutual female friend.

She has given me a couple of IOIs by complementing my progress in dancing, I have only taken two classes. She asked “Where is your friend” the other night. I know she knows my friend by name. I think she used “friend” to see if I would respond with “She is my girlfriend or wife”. Either way I think she was probing to see if we are more than just friends.

We all usually go out dancing at nearby club after class. I noticed the other girls she associates with are not attractive. And they all speak Russian, maybe they are related? She also seemed a little giddy / self-conscious. I am not I am not used to women of that caliber of beauty acting that way.

It all makes me wonder if she is really an ugly girl that got work done or if she is really a natural beauty?

Any tips you could provide to help me figure this out would be greatly appreciated!

Search for scars behind her ears

In all seriousness, game her, bang her and ask her.

If her tits are fake, the rest might be fake.

Unless you are planning to have kids with her, her real genetic look should not bother you.

[Ogunn]

(10-12-2016 11:59 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

How can we possibly answer without seeing her (even then it wont be conclusive).

But anyway a lot of Russian girls have doll like faces with small noses and round cheekbones.

Her lips may or may not be fake.

Unless she looks plastic its not a big deal

I have not had much exposure to Russian girls. The dance studio is in a Russian part of town. And a lot of the girls that go there are Russian / Eastern European.

There are a lot of other cuties there but she really stands out. Another possibility is that she really is natural and probably a very successful model.

Bro if you are telling Russia has a high percentage of women that look like that. I just might have to move learn Russian and deal with the attacks from skinheads!!

[John_Galt]

^

Exactly.

OP: You are WAY overanylizing it. Trying to disqualify a girl you haven't even kissed, much less banged. "Oh she showed me a couple of IOI's, now I need to know if she has had work done." LOL!

Come on man. She's hot, you like her, bang her. Then, if you like her personality and you could see it going long term, ask her flat out if she's had work done.

Until then, it really doesn't matter.

It honestly sounds to me like you're afraid of being rejected by her, so you're trying to come up with an excuse to "pre-reject" her. It's a lot of male hamstering, and you really need to quit with it.

And BTW: Not all Russians are related.

[Ogunn]

(10-12-2016 02:01 PM)Mushroom Wrote:  

Does it matter? If she looks good, she looks good. As long as she doesn't look like this:



...You should be good. Practically every single famous woman has had plastic surgery and I don't think that would stop you from fucking any of them.

If you're attracted to the way she looks then try to get the bang. If you see her without makeup and she's hideous then just don't turn it into a LTR, but keep banging as long as she wears makeup.

I mean, just look at this gallery of pornstars without makeout:

http://imgur.com/gallery/1hDv6SC

I am originally from NYC where I was raised around some old school players. I currently reside in Miami. I work at a company where models come in on a regular basis. I am also heavily involved in the fitness community and have female friends that are fitness models.

Maybe all this has made me one picky bitch. But I am what I am. What I am is turned off by cosmetic surgery. Fake tits and fake ass look great when dressed. But undressed and in the light, I have rarely seen fake tits that look good. And I have yet to come across fake tits or ass that felt right to the touch!

Hell I don't even like it when women wear makeup! As far as I am concerned makeup just covers up their natural beauty.

So if it turns out she is all natural I will then have to go on a quest to find the source of this beauty! If she is fake....I am not going to lie I will probably still smash if I can. But afterwards, I will be pissed off that my perfect face turned out to be an illusion!!!

[Menace]

OP you need to try to bang her. Everything else is irrelevant.

[Cage]

I think it does matter to some degree, if she was not that great beforehand, she will be even more trouble and bothersome than a girl with natural beauty.

Her fucked up self image will make life more difficult for you usually post bang, more self doubt = more artificial modifications = more baggage = more potential for psychological damage to you apart from the time, stress and other negative issues associated with low base esteem women.

[John_Galt]

100% agree with Menace. She passes the boner test....I don't see the point in debating on an online forum whether her beauty is "real" or not.

Bang her then ask for yourself.

[coverdoc]

Agree bro, game her and ask her later. I've done it plenty of times. Usually I initiate the comment with " Great nose/breast, where did you have work done?" Nowadays chicks aren't even offended by this statement.

P.S. I may be coming down to Miami soon, so i'll be taking you up on that offer to wing

-CD

[Ogunn]

(10-13-2016 12:52 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

Agree bro, game her and ask her later. I've done it plenty of times. Usually I initiate the comment with " Great nose/breast, where did you have work done?" Nowadays chicks aren't even offended by this statement.

P.S. I may be coming down to Miami soon, so i'll be taking you up on that offer to wing

-CD

I was told by some friends that have experience with Russian girls. That these doll-like flawless faces while not the norm, they are far from uncommon.

This brother just might have to risk his life and hit up St. Petersberg to find out just how common these uncommon looks are!

Either way next class I will be pushing up.

I am just suspicious by nature. Cause I have found most of the time if it looks to good to be true it usually is!

Cover Doc hit me up and let me know when you are coming through. FYI Halloween weekend would definitely be a good time to be here!

[Latinopan]

I think OP is asking in regards of genetic purpose, he wants good looking genes passing on.

[Sikh Warrior]

The model is Elsa Hosk. She has had work done just like any other model. Ever single model has had some type of breast augmentation, chin restructuring, liposuction, etc. done. This is the reality of modeling today.

[Latinopan]

(10-16-2016 08:40 PM)Sikh Warrior Wrote:  

The model is [b]Elsa Hosk. She has had work done just like any other model. [/b]Ever single model has had some type of breast augmentation, chin restructuring, liposuction, etc. done. This is the reality of modeling today.

This is the older pic of her I could find. And considering OP is asking about facial natural beauty I do not see much difference to how she looks now.

[Nineteen84]

Minor stuff i'm cool with. But this kind of thing would bother me, especially if having kids is on the cards:

[Ogunn]

(10-17-2016 01:30 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

Minor stuff i'm cool with. But this kind of thing would bother me, especially if having kids is on the cards:

GODDAAAAAMMMM! Nineteen84 You did a great job of illustrating my fears with those pics!!!

Class is tonight. I am going to push up.

[Tayo]

if you are not thinking of having kids with her yet... just enjoy the illusion

(10-12-2016 11:52 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 11:37 AM)roberto Wrote:  

Why does it bother you? Game on! Sounds like potential LTR material if you're that way inclined.

Anyway mate, remember- she's only flawless to you. Right this moment. No matter how hot the girl, someone, somewhere, is sick of her shit

If she has had work done that means its all fake. In other words an illusion. Which is a huge turn off to me!

[Brother Abdul Majeed]

(10-12-2016 02:01 PM)Mushroom Wrote:  

Does it matter? If she looks good, she looks good. As long as she doesn't look like this:



...You should be good. Practically every single famous woman has had plastic surgery and I don't think that would stop you from fucking any of them.

If you're attracted to the way she looks then try to get the bang. If you see her without makeup and she's hideous then just don't turn it into a LTR, but keep banging as long as she wears makeup.

I mean, just look at this gallery of pornstars without makeout:

http://imgur.com/gallery/1hDv6SC

This broad has clearly never heard the expression "when you find yourself in a hole maybe it's time to stop digging".