[Ehnulo]

I don't have the money that some of you guys do for traveling so most of my gaming will be local unfortunately.

I live in the LA area which can be kind of rough if your game isn't super tight. I'm thinking of taking a step back and devoting more time to building a social circle.

The idea is to get to a point where I regularly have house parties I'm invited to and chicks to roll with.

Has anyone done this? Is it a big help or am I being too optimistic on this?

[Smitty]

(08-06-2011 04:31 AM)Ehnulo Wrote:  

I don't have the money that some of you guys do for traveling so most of my gaming will be local unfortunately.

I live in the LA area which can be kind of rough if your game isn't super tight. I'm thinking of taking a step back and devoting more time to building a social circle.

The idea is to get to a point where I regularly have house parties I'm invited to and chicks to roll with.

Has anyone done this? Is it a big help or am I being too optimistic on this?

You're not being too optimistic, although part of your plan depends on your age. If you're in your 40's, it's going to be tougher to be regularly invited to house parties with younger 20-something women. How old are you? Building a social network has a similarity to gaming (in my opinion) in that you're not going to bat 10 for 10. So you might consider casting a wide net and attending free events (through meetup.com, etc) to try and meet as many people as possible. Some people will want to get together again, others will flake and you'll never hear from them. If you have game though, and other beta guys sense it, they'll want to become part of your network quickly. While having these guys attached will drag slow down most of the players on this board, I've found these betas to be useful because they are typically part of a larger social circle that you can then join...do this a few times and you'll meet a lot of people.

[Dash Global]

Get a second part time job at a restaurant with hot chicks. By far the EASIEST & QUICKEST way to build ur social circle. Once you have broken in and added them to your circle, quit and go to another restaurant.

Within one year you will have TONS of chicks and numerous social circles at your disposal.

[Basil Ransom]

(08-06-2011 04:31 AM)Ehnulo Wrote:  

I don't have the money that some of you guys do for traveling so most of my gaming will be local unfortunately.

I live in the LA area which can be kind of rough if your game isn't super tight. I'm thinking of taking a step back and devoting more time to building a social circle.

The idea is to get to a point where I regularly have house parties I'm invited to and chicks to roll with.

Has anyone done this? Is it a big help or am I being too optimistic on this?

I've been feeling the same way. I live in LA, in an area with hot girls but very strong social circles. Here you have hot local insular girls, and fatties from outlying areas hanging out. What part of LA are you in? Feel free to PM me. I think social circles are extremely underrated, and can be more important than game in getting legit hot pussy.

People become friends with people they have an ongoing connection to - by and large, you can't "pick up" a friend like you can a girl. So to make friends, you will have to see that person several times before you become good friends. Usually at some activity you have in common, eg, work, salsa classes, or a sports league. It's even better if you have a group of friends, because people mostly talk about people they know in common.

People with strong circles will feel no need to invite you to their events. You may have to do all the inviting at first. Even if they like you, some people feel no need to make more friends, so they won't invite you. And some circles date years back, to a fraternity or sorority.

I'd recommend checking out local activities, classes, church, volunteering. Quiet bars with lots of regulars is another option. Scout for options with cool dudes. Small independent gyms can be great too - I meet someone new every time I go to my gym, but it's mostly non-local older guys.

In my area, sports leagues are big but I'm far from athletic, and have no desire to play sports outside of martial arts.

Dash's suggestion sounds good too. One friend of mine has a strong circle despite being a transplant, and he works at a bar. He was dating a girl appearing in Playboy, though they may have parted ways. And he was an average cool dude.

[amistod]

What types of things are you interested in? I have met tons of people since I got in to DJ/Party planning.. I think this might be a good excuse to use Facebook. I know the board is kinda split on its usefulness..

[Switchez]

I'm with Dash Global on this one. Find a part time job in a place where chicks hang out. Restaurant sounds like a good idea.

[Dash Global]

(08-06-2011 11:19 AM)Switchez Wrote:  

I'm with Dash Global on this one. Find a part time job in a place where chicks hang out. Restaurant sounds like a good idea.

Im telling you people from 9 years experience working in the restaurant and bar industry. It is the EASIEST & Quickest way to expand your social circle. It doesnt have to be restaurant or bar/club. Anyplace that has alot of chicks working there is good.

I can seriously go to any bar or club in my city without calling or texting anyone and can guarantee there will be numerous people I know in the venue. All of this was gained from working in various restaurants in town. As most of my friends from hs and college do not live in my hometown anymore.

There is one restaurant that employs like 85 females! I mean fuck, that alone will give you access to more females than you could ever have time for. Remember not only will you have access to your coworkers but you will also gain access to their main friends when yall go out!

Also one more tip

When you go an apply dont just drop off ur application to the girls at the front or some other bullshit. Ask to speak to the manager. When you talk to him in person say something along the lines of "Was wondering if yall were hiring, I would really like to be apart of the team here" yada yada.

Without talking to the manager in person ur application will most likely get thrown away or put at the bottom of some file ect.

Anyways, hope some of this helps ya.

Now go out there aint start dropping ur application around!! And thank me later!

[MikeCF]

Hard time meeting girls in L.A.? I gotta call bullshit on that - at least if you mean Los Angeles rather than Louisiana.

3rd Street Promende during the day (every day) is loaded with hotties. So are the nearby Coffee Bean and Starbucks.

Westwood is loaded with hot chicks. Go to the Trader Joe's and Coffee Bean at all hours. It's insane.

There are also all sorts of tourists and girls new to L.A. who'd love to hang with a local/be shown around/taken out.

The problem is not with L.A.

The problem is guys want to meet girls at the club. Good luck with that game. I've watched all the legendary "PUA's" get blown out at Saddle Ranch and every other Sunset Strip Club.

I can actually meet girls at the clubs, but it's not worth the hassle - in time or in money.

In L.A., you're killing yourself if you're not running day game.

[Dash Global]

Mike,

Some dudes just dont have the confidence and swag for running street game on random chicks. Your gonna get shut down alot and not really be taken serious over half the time.

Not the best advice for a novice in one of the most jaded cities in America....

[el mechanico]

Im with dash on this one.

http://youtu.be/jWtDm_rgmFI

[Oblivion77]

(08-06-2011 03:55 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Hard time meeting girls in L.A.? I gotta call bullshit on that - at least if you mean Los Angeles rather than Louisiana.

3rd Street Promende during the day (every day) is loaded with hotties. So are the nearby Coffee Bean and Starbucks.

Westwood is loaded with hot chicks. Go to the Trader Joe's and Coffee Bean at all hours. It's insane.

There are also all sorts of tourists and girls new to L.A. who'd love to hang with a local/be shown around/taken out.

The problem is not with L.A.

The problem is guys want to meet girls at the club. Good luck with that game. I've watched all the legendary "PUA's" get blown out at Saddle Ranch and every other Sunset Strip Club.

I can actually meet girls at the clubs, but it's not worth the hassle - in time or in money.

In L.A., you're killing yourself if you're not running day game.

LA is all about social circle infiltration. You need to get access to certain groups. Mandatory. To the point I started downgrading potential bangs to female friends just to crack their social circles.

Ideally you want to hit the pool parties in the hollywood hills, especially now, during summer. Every week there is always some wealthy guy inviting bunch of his friends for bbq or else. The advantages of such parties are several. First ugly chicks are not existent. I recently went to one of these parties and finally realized the shocking element isnt the large amount of attractive girls - in LA I'm used to that - but the utter absence of ugly chicks! No joke, no ugly chicks. Period.

Also, remember the social circle is only apparently tight, dont get intimidated, often these people do know each other but arent that close, LA is full of transplants. I have been here over 6 years and every time I expect people to be tight, by the end of the evening I realize they are closer to me than to the party host. Ergo it is easy to make (flaky) friends.

If you have some connection go out and make friends that work in the movie biz, that can help A LOT to get invited to these type of upscale parties. Plus, I dont think I have met yet a jaded LA chick that says no when you invite her to the screening of some new movie (no matter how indy the movie is, they just love it).

Also dont disregard the gyms to meet more people: change gym every month and you will make tons of new friends. If you are comfortable with the pricy membership hit the Equinox in Weho or the one in Santa Monica by the Promenade. The quality is very very high. Make friends.

For Daygame the goldmine is the Whole Food on Lincoln and Rose in Venice. Fuck the Westwood village, that is for students, young chicks that arent women yet...wearing flip flops at every opportunity! In Venice instead you get abundance of attractive girls that arent as guarded as the typical Hollywood bitch. Approach them there and instant-date them. Venice Wine Company on Rose, just 4 blocks away from Whole Foods, is perfect. Trendy hot chicks dig this small wine bar. You cant go wrong. Plus, you might stumble in Alanis Morisette (that seems to be a local there, use that as a prop/hook).

Let me stress it once again, social-circle-infiltration is essential in LA. Your instincts were right Ehnulo, now execute the game plan. Just remember that knowing the path is not walking the path.

EDIT: If I bump into you infiltrating one of my social circles get ready to face my light saber. Dont trespass ;-) FYI, currently I'm all about the Malibu summer-time social circle...dont come there young Padawan, LOL.

EDIT: English language summer classes. Another niche you might want to explore. Mainly wanna-be actresses from Europe that come to LA for a few months. Do your homework.

[Basil Ransom]

(08-06-2011 03:55 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Hard time meeting girls in L.A.? I gotta call bullshit on that - at least if you mean Los Angeles rather than Louisiana.

3rd Street Promende during the day (every day) is loaded with hotties. So are the nearby Coffee Bean and Starbucks.

Westwood is loaded with hot chicks. Go to the Trader Joe's and Coffee Bean at all hours. It's insane.

There are also all sorts of tourists and girls new to L.A. who'd love to hang with a local/be shown around/taken out.

The problem is not with L.A.

The problem is guys want to meet girls at the club. Good luck with that game. I've watched all the legendary "PUA's" get blown out at Saddle Ranch and every other Sunset Strip Club.

I can actually meet girls at the clubs, but it's not worth the hassle - in time or in money.

In L.A., you're killing yourself if you're not running day game.

Care to break down your day game technique?

I don't understand why people bash getting a social circle. I bet if you looked at all lays of attractive women, the vast majority would be with men with whom they had some prior connection. Maybe a coworker or a friend of a friend. We know that the less of the approach we do, the greater our perceived value, eg waltzing across a bar to talk to a girl vs having her sidle up next to us to order a drink. A social circle is like that; it indicates pre-approval, and ensures a 'warm' approach.

College is different. But the fundamentals are similar. In college, the best thing you can do is be a part of as many scenes as possible, so as to meet under favorable circumstances the greatest number of girls. Social circle is no different.

[Saladin]

(08-07-2011 02:31 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

Care to break down your day game technique?

I don't understand why people bash getting a social circle. I bet if you looked at all lays of attractive women, the vast majority would be with men with whom they had some prior connection. Maybe a coworker or a friend of a friend. We know that the less of the approach we do, the greater our perceived value, eg waltzing across a bar to talk to a girl vs having her sidle up next to us to order a drink. A social circle is like that; it indicates pre-approval, and ensures a 'warm' approach.

College is different. But the fundamentals are similar. In college, the best thing you can do is be a part of as many scenes as possible, so as to meet under favorable circumstances the greatest number of girls. Social circle is no different.

I don't think anyone's bashing social circle. Its just that a lot of guys use social circles as an excuse to not do cold approaches.

Both in combination is the ideal.