[pyrrhus]

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Age: 20
Height: 5'11" (180 cm)
Weight: 150 lbs (70 kg)

I'm currently in my third year of university and have really been upping my game as of late. While I approach all kinds of women, my favorite are East Asian girls. My particular university has no shortage of these girls, and because I live in the US, there are plenty of places I can go after finishing university that will have the kind of girls I like. I'm just wondering, however, if anyone could offer a comparison of meeting girls in their country (e.g. Korean girls in Korea, Japanese girls in Japan) vs. meeting them in one's home country. Does something about the West corrupt these girls the minute they get off the plane, or do they tend to be of the same quality?

Am I missing out on something by not going "straight to the source" so to speak?

One thing I will say: because of the nature of my city, there aren't many places where international students go that are good for approaching. But again, this may just be my city, it's a little small. Most of my approaching is done during the day (library, class, walking on campus).

[Shimmy]

The longer they are here the worse it gets. If shes just moving there at 20 just figure the other girls have a 20 year head start. We are products of our environment.

[HOD]

I think so,

There still better, in term of attitudes.

They understand how the other half lives around the world.

They understand the plight of poverty and corruption.

They also understand discrimination. Alot of people don't realize alot of American girls hate on EE girls. For obvious reason.

Americans girls have no concept of empathy or discrimination. Our society has elevated them to 1st class citizens.

EE girls still respect and appreciate a good man. To EE girls, America is there Philippines. Its fucking awesome, one Russian girls told me.

I white girls from EE, gets affirmative action at work and school, easy access to full scholarship, easy entry to elite schools, government job preferences.

Who doesn't like them apples.

[Rawmeo]

Better than local white girls: Yes
Better than dating them abroad: No

Most foreign girls who have been in the western world for some time will get americanized. For example, I have dated a Viet girl in Bangkok who lived in the states for 2 years with some extended family. She spoke good English, and I casually asked her what she dislikes the most about men. She answered "I hate when they see me as a person whose role is to clean and cook. It's 2015, come on".

Just this sentence alone turned me off completely. Such a beautiful girl, who got poisoned by feminism. Whether you want it or not, you WILL change if you live in a different country for some time. I've changed a lot since I moved to Thailand 3 years ago. For the worst or for the best? Depends. But here are a few thoughts that come to my head:

B: "I think men and women should be equal. We are both human and work the same way".
A: "There are gender roles, and it has been there for centuries for a reason".
(seeing how families here are united, in contrast to broken single-parent homes in the West)

B: "If a woman is a single mother, she is more mature, has a lot of love to give, and is looking for someone to love her kid like his"
A: "Choosing a single mom is the best way to cuckold yourself, be a sucker, and spend your cash and sweat of the bastard offspring of the man who was fucking her before"
(after realizing how single moms are actually deadbeat train wrecks)

B: "I prefer a girl with experience, because she knows what she is doing"
A: "I will never marry a girl who is not a virgin. If I can't show her the right way, I am no good as a man"
(after talking to many girls in stable marriages, who were mostly virgins, and who explained the importance of keeping it for the right man)

B: "A woman needs to be independent. I don't want to have to provide for someone who can't follow a career and make money"
A: "A woman belongs in the household, taking care of the kids, cleaning, and cooking. It's my job to provide for my family"
(this one came a bit from families I saw here, but mostly from red pill stuff)

B: "Marriage isn't needed anymore; it's just gambling your assets on the mood of a girl. Just make kids if you need to"
A: "The law should forbid having kids outside marriage. Bastard children are the reason why teens get pregnant. Just make a prenup and you can't get fucked over"
(thought this one after seeing the demographics here)

As you can see, my opinions about those topics have dramatically changed over the course of the 3 years I've been dating foreign girls in their country. Now imagine having my old mindset and trying to force it to a Thai lady: I'll never be able to make my way into her family. Girls living abroad will change their mindset, for the worst. Society influences us, whether we want it or not.

While it is possible to cope with small differences in a couple, it is impossible to cope with such huge disparities like the above. Foreign girls and Americanized girls can be THAT different.

Moral of the story: If you're looking to date a foreign girl (which is excellent), start a location-independent business, get some passive income, and go to a traditional country. Eastern Europe, China, Japan, SEA.. .you pick.

[RichieP]

True relationships fail in the west, but they arguably do in the east too - they just dont divorce as much.

Look at all the soulless middle-aged asian couples who've let their dreams die, have no sex (husband uses whores) and barely say a word to each other. Or the high levels of domestic abuse in these cultures.

Fact is humans just generally fail a lot in most endeavors - relationships, marriage, business, health, etc. Life is just tough generally, and success at any big endeavor takes a lot of tenacity, critical thinking and determination.

This idea that feminism has "ruined" things in the west is bunk IMO - there is at least as much relationship bullshit to deal with in the east. It's just a different flavor.

[azulsombra]

No.

[Kaizen]

The way I see it:

Foreign Women >>> Foreign Women that moved to Anglosphere >>> women born in Anglosphere

So take what you can get.

I'm stuck in the West currently and simply don't initiate conversations with girls in category C.

[scotian]

(08-08-2016 09:35 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

The way I see it:

Foreign Women >>> Foreign Women that moved to Anglosphere >>> women born in Anglosphere

So take what you can get.

I'm stuck in the West currently and simply don't initiate conversations with girls in category C.

This is the same strategy I use when working in Canada, when I have free time I'll go out to Latin bars or other ethnic places, hit on Filipina service workers, etc.

[Vinny]

As soon as the girl crosses the border her Sexual marketplace value rises. She can feel it almost instantly and will readjust her behavior quickly.

Better buy commodity where it is cheaper.

[The Black Knight]

(08-08-2016 10:05 PM)scotian Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 09:35 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

The way I see it:

Foreign Women >>> Foreign Women that moved to Anglosphere >>> women born in Anglosphere

So take what you can get.

I'm stuck in the West currently and simply don't initiate conversations with girls in category C.

This is the same strategy I use when working in Canada, when I have free time I'll go out to Latin bars or other ethnic places, hit on Filipina service workers, etc.

I do the same thing now in the US and really have been trying to ramp up breaking into certain ethnic group social circles just to get a taste of the foreign delights.

Was in a clinic briefly a while back and one of the nurses started talking/working on me, had an accent, and when I asked where she was from:

"The Philippines."

Didn't even matter that she was a 5. I got a semi-boner on just hearing where she was from, listening to her soft feminine non-vocal fry voice, and with her displaying a warm/friendly demeanor. I kid you not, I had this very strong urge to bang her right there raw in her nursing outfit and get a taste of some real feminine energy. Suffice to say, real feminine energy is in VERY short supply in the west and when it pops up at random moments, it can initiate some potent primal desires incredibly quickly.

That said, not all Anglosphere women are garbage but for what I like and look for in a woman initially (particularly in LTR qualities; most of the stuff in the "after" section of Rawmeo's list), it's pretty slim pickens. But I'll press on and make the best of it for now.

[Dantes]

They are certainly better abroad in certain countries. In Nyc for example, I have seen many sweet, feminine girls become ruined. The sweet spot for meeting them is under 6 months. However, inevitably they become Americanized and lose the characteristics that make them desirable. I dated a Moldovan woman in Nyc. Before she left Moldova, her mother said to her "everything bad in the world comes from America". Her mother's warning didn't stop her from moving or becoming Americanized. Ironically, she was cognizant of her change in behavior and attitude. However, she was unable or unwilling to stop its progression. Inevitable.

[HOD]

(08-08-2016 11:14 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

As soon as the girl crosses the border her Sexual marketplace value rises. She can feel it almost instantly and will readjust her behavior quickly.

Better buy commodity where it is cheaper.

This could explain why flight attendants are so flighty.

[Secret]

Of course it s interesting to find adventures with foreign women in your home country. It adds variety, and might allow an insight into a foreign culture, a foreign mentality and also a foreign body. Even if she s not the most beautiful, it s the spirit of adventure and exploring that makes me hot.
Actually as for me that s my whole point in the game, I am a hunter, an adventurer, an explorer.


But anyway: Nothing compares to meeting a girl in her genuine environment, having all the foreign things around me, the tastes, the smells, the language, all..... A girl not living in her home country is never the same, never the real original.

So, it all depends what you re looking for, what is your interest why you play the game. As for me, I would call a flag only a real one if with a girl in her real environment.

[pyrrhus]

(08-09-2016 02:49 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

I do the same thing now in the US and really have been trying to ramp up breaking into certain ethnic group social circles just to get a taste of the foreign delights.

Could you explain some of the ways you've done that? I've considered doing it, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about it.

[kirdiesel]

Ive dated German girls living in America and German girls in Germany and the German girls in America are 10x better than the ones here.

As mentioned above you gotta get them while they are fresh though so Americanization doesn't get out of control and set in. If you can get em early and mold them properly its a sweet spot.

[Kamaki4]

The OP is interested in East Asian women. Germany, U.S.A, Canada, Australia and the U.K are already prime breeding ground for the type of non- feminine 'pain in the ass' women most forum members despise. When a girl from one ball busting country moves to another how much improvement can we expect, and in the end, who cares?

[Cheetah]

(08-09-2016 06:50 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Ive dated German girls living in America and German girls in Germany and the German girls in America are 10x better than the ones here.

As mentioned above you gotta get them while they are fresh though so Americanization doesn't get out of control and set in. If you can get em early and mold them properly its a sweet spot.

You say that the US is a better environment for a girl to live in compared to Germany?

[National Crusader]

A lot of the foreign women in the US will be pretty americanized so I'd rather go to a desired county.