Quote: (07-18-2016 01:35 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:
The Golden Age was before the forum became a place where jew-bashing, conspiracy theories, and soft-core white supremacy became tacitly accepted, if not encouraged.
I tuned out around then, and many other reasonable guys did so as well, or got banned for speaking out against the nonsense being pedaled by folks who spend way too much time online going down rabbit holes.
It's Roosh's forum, though, and if that's what he wants, that's what he gets, he's making the transition as an author of game manuals to an author of alt-right books, and changing the forum membership to the target market for those books correlates with his change in direction as an author.
It's only a week or two ago that I started posting again, but I just keep to the quality posts such as on careers and traveling and stay away from the covert racists and tin-foil hats. I do wish some of the more reasonable folks hadn't been banned, as they had quite a bit of positives to contribute to other sections of the forum.
Hopefully it gets better after the election or if Roosh's new book sales don't justify the turn in the forum and he makes a pivot back to game books. But in fairness, it's his forum, and that's just the way it goes, if you're a reasonable guy, just be quiet or get banned, this was originally a safe space for men, but it has now become a safe space for covert racists and conspiracy theorists, so tread lightly to avoid triggering them.
These things didn't just happen out of the blue. They happened IN RESPONSE to what's been going on in society. In the past eight years it's been open season on mainstream white, heterosexual male culture and the media is leading the charge.
Working in media, I saw this first-hand. The kind of articles I'd usually write started getting spiked or voted down and editors began to tell me what opinions I could have -- all of which were politically correct. There was a drastic change between 2008 and 2013. This was one of the reasons I left.
Most of what you read in the media isn't overtly anti-white. But there is a general "narrative" the media follows. And when people see Jewish names again and again in newspapers or black faces again and again on TV declaring open season on whites, they eventually start to resent it.
Why
shouldn't white people stand up for their own culture in response? Who is to say that is wrong? And who APPOINTED the person who gets to tell us that's wrong?
One thing I like about the forum -- and the various Twitter accounts I follow -- is that people are finally starting to question why being proud of European heritage is deemed "white supremacy" by the media.
In addition, instead of thinking people on the forum are Jew-bashing or white supremacists, why not question how these things are defined? Because the media (and by, association our social mores) now tell is that any pro-white statement is "racist" and anything questioning the Jews is "anti-semitism." The same things people said in the Reagan or Clinton era are now suspect. It's society that's changed.
I'm personally getting tired of ethnic groups that feel they're above reproach. As a member of an ethnic group -- Italians -- I don't feel this way at all. We developed the mafia and brought it to the U.S. So, we get stereotyped as criminals. That's because WE WERE CRIMINALS and sometimes still are.
If you're part of a group getting stereotyped, odds are it's for a reason -- just like with my people. Maybe you and I don't deserve these stereotypes personally, but our ethnic groups do -- otherwise they wouldn't have come up. I can't think of a stereotype that doesn't have truth to it -- whether it's based on ethnicity, gender, or even people's professions.
Sorry if this comes off as harsh. But I see mainstream media culture as a gigantic whitewash of reality and the manosphere as one of the few places that confronts the real world head on -- even when it's uncomfortable.
Finally, as for overt racism, I don't see anyone on here indulging in out-and-out stupidity, such as name-calling or ethnic slurs (i.e. "Shut up, you dumb Wop!). I'd leave if people were doing that. But if people present arguments and statistics, I'm open to listening even if I'm uncomfortable with it or if it reflects badly on me or my group. Because I'm sure not going to get anything resembling the truth from the mainstream media.
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