[Kaizen]

Great thread Gmanifesto

This is a question I already ask myself as I approach 40. The answer is no less clear than when I was 16

Right now I am trying to spend more time each year in either SA or Asia while building savings at home

It's possible I could meet a wife while away and import her-although I guess unikely.

More likely is the scenario that I meet no one, until that time I have the resources to move permanently abroad. I wouldn't be disappointed with that outcome.

[MiXX]

I'll tell you how I WON'T end up:

Divorced paying alimony to an entitled bitch who took half of my trap like she wrote half my rap, and kids who never even fuckin call their old man to see how he's doing.

Any other scenario is cool. I'll very likely have a scenario where I work a few months in EU or USA, but live in Colombia or some under-developed EE country where I am exotic.

Another option is to surpass my granddaddy. Get a 20 year old pregnant in my 80's before I die.

Mixx

[el mechanico]

(07-27-2011 02:24 AM)K-man Wrote:  

I can't say I've played my end game yet, since I'm only 35, but been married for 2 years now, with a 2 y.o. girl. Don't let anyone tell you kids are not fun. Yeah, it may not be fun if you have to babysit someone else's brat, but when it's your own it's completely different. A very enjoyable experience, watching and helping them learn, and hearing them call you Daddy.
I have yet to meet a person who does not love their own children and does not enjoy spending time with them. So I believe all of you playas here would also enjoy that - don't rob your life of the joys of fatherhood.
Of course, don't deny yourself the joys of new pussy, either. If you can combine both things, it's the best of both worlds.

I'm with you on this.

I have a 4 year old daughter and I'm the custodial parent. I love that little monkey and she goes and does almost everything with me.

Don't think that this can't be done and you can't still be a player. My kid actually helps me with women. Not 20 year old college girls but the finest milfs the mall has to offer.

Her mom tried the whole child support/custody game with me and failed miserably.(my att. has a lot of cars that I fix for free) but, whatever it takes.

Its all about knowledge. Parenting is just like game, you do your homework and make the right moves.

I was going to start a thread about single parent game but, I didn't think anyone here had kids.

[MiXX]

Sorry K-man.

If a girl ever gets pregnant from me, I will seriously start having suicidal thoughts. Not kidding!

Nearly 15 years ago, it happened: "I'm pregnant" she said. Since that day she made my life a LIVING HELL.

After 2 months of living hell, she lost the pregnancy. I had an angel by my side that day..
I hope and pray if god really exists: never make me a father.

I have to walk around with morning after pills everywhere sneaking them into womens drinks the next morning.

There's a reason why Malaysia airlines banned kids from their first class cabins, and many movie theathers are doing the same thing.

Leavethembehind.com



I tried getting snipped, but doctors have refused the operation given I have no kids.

Bastards!!

Mixx

[Samseau]

(07-27-2011 11:14 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Sorry K-man.

If a girl ever gets pregnant from me, I will seriously start having suicidal thoughts. Not kidding!

I hope and pray if god really exists: never make me a father.

I have to walk around with morning after pills everywhere sneaking them into womens drinks the next morning.


I tried getting snipped, but doctors have refused the operation given I have no kids.

Bastards!!

Mixx

Mixx, read:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/cris...d=11095236

[Giovonny]

(07-26-2011 02:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What does the 4th quarter look like?

1. Married with kids in a suburban hell hole existence? Weekends filled with malls, meals at TGI Fridays, filling up the tank on ever price increasing gasoline? (I doubt many on here want to end up this way.)

2.Drugged out and drunk banging hookers in a far flung third world country like Thailand? (not a bad option)

3.Married with 20 kids in a in a far flung third world country like Thailand? Maybe on some kind of farm with bodyguards and drug stash. (You need to go somewhere cheap to have that many kids).

4.Ageing playboy in a place like a Western European beach town with a couple of young Spanish girlfriends?

5.In an island paradise, surfing, fishing, and boozing?

6.In a 2nd tier Eastern European city, still swooping, but freezing every winter?

7.Still traveling the world?

8. In the nuthouse trying to swoop on the nurses?

9.Don’t care, I will one day walk into gun shots drunk on Prosecco from Italy.

What do you think your End Game will be?

Its all about freedom and options right?

I just hope to be financially and location independent. So I can do any of these things if I choose to.

Its hard to predict what will make me happy in 30 years.

I am just focused on building wealth, betting better at Game, and staying in great shape.

So that when I am older I can do...Whatever the fuck I want!

I imagine my life will go something like this: (hopefully)

Homebase: Somewhere in California near friends and family

A few months in EE (When I want white girls)

A few months in SA (When I want Latinas/Brasilieras)

A few months in SEA (When I want Asians)

"The Senior Players Tour"

This is my goal.

[Giovonny]

tenderman100,

Welcome and thank you for a great first post.

I love the simplicity of your Gaming style..

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

The game was simple, look, smile, get off their stop, approach, chat, "Want to have coffee?"

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

"Want to get together?"

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

If I see a nice looking woman with an iPhone, I ask her, "What's your favorite app?"

No cheesy "pick up lines", just a man making conversation with a woman. This is how I was raised by my grandfather and father. Its not so much what you say, but how you say it.

Also,

You seem to have some insight into Gaming younger college girls..

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

the young ones with Daddy issues! They are the best. I see this Harvard junior every time she is home on summer vacation, or winter/spring break. "All the boys I know are just boys..." she says.

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

For the white college chicks, you need to know who Arcade Fire is, and why they are important.

Would you share with us your keys for Gaming younger college girls? Specifically, the ones with "daddy issues" ???

Thanks

[rudebwoy]

Tenderman100 - great post dude and nice insights. You certainly inspired me and I hear you about Porsche's, although I would die for a Maserati. lol

For me I could see myself living in some Eastern European city, then probably moving to a smaller city before some girls convinces me into moving back to Canada with her. Then she will change for the worst and I will want to commit suicide out of sheer boredom.

One of the coolest guys I ever met, was an older guy that owned a scooter rental business on the island of Kos (Greece). He worked the summer months and took the winters off, I would not mind a gig like that dealing with nice young hot tourist girls.

[Excelsior]

(07-27-2011 08:35 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

Two things. First, I don't want to be thought of a potential sugar daddy and a hot car conveys that. Second, the guy who's worked on my cars for years says that Porsche's are beautiful cars until they need to be fixed, and then they become money pits. To use the wine connoisseur phrase, I am a QPR guy -- quality to price ratio. I look for value -- I buy stuff on Ebay or Overstock, work bargains any way I can (it's the businessman in me).

Both good points.

In defense of Porsche, Yahoo concluded that, while cars like the 911 are certainly indicative of a mid-life crisis, they may still just be cool enough to be considered worth it...may be even a cure.
I still want one, but to each their own.

As for traveling, you need to dig into this forum's travel section. If you're a white male with some financial means still doing well in the US(not an easy place to date and find quality for a guy, mind you), then you will probably slay in much of Asia and Latin America.

[tenderman100]

(07-27-2011 01:46 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Would you share with us your keys for Gaming younger college girls? Specifically, the ones with "daddy issues" ???

Thanks

Well, I don't know if I have any special insight but here goes.

The Harvard girl I actually met via Craigslist. I basically said I was looking to strike up a friendship with a college aged young woman who was interested in learning about the world from a sophisticated older man who was well-read in literature, who was up on cultural things, and who was...highly experienced and skilled.

Over the past two years I have met two others -- one went nowhere, one went very nicely.

Here's what I did. I have done this about a dozen times over the past couple of years and succeeded to the dinner point twice, and to my house once.

--Find where the coeds hang out Saturday or Sunday afternoons -- the Starbucks, the Panera's, the places in college areas where there is wireless. Always bring your laptop. Always afternoons, always weekend never at exam time.

--Only approach singles.

--If they have a textbook or other reading material, ask about it. "Boy, I avoided organic chemistry when I went to school." "You know you should read those Victorian novels in installments, like they actually did in the 19th century." "Sociology...is that the discipline where they try to explain away bad behavior?" I have no canned openers, I just strike up a conversation.

--I tell them I also teach at the college level. They are inevitably impressed. I also try to show them my business web site so they see I am legitimate and not a stalker.

--If the conversation continues, then I ask if they would like to something to eat. I have a place in mind, I tell them it is in another neighborhood but I have my car nearby. Get them out of the zone, but make them feel secure

--I invariably turn the conversation to college boys. I want her to vent about them. "Young women are always more mature..."

Both girls I got to this point I invited over to dinner at my house. One accepted right then, one said text her, but nothing happened. When it happened, I cooked a nice dinner and had a great bottle of wine. It was the first really outstanding wine she had ever had. The seduction was complete.

[MiXX]

Craigs List? Seriously? People use that to meet Potential partners for sex?

I thought that was a myth. I've only used CL to sell shit I don't want without hefty EBay fees.


Mixx

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2011 03:26 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(07-27-2011 08:35 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

Two things. First, I don't want to be thought of a potential sugar daddy and a hot car conveys that. Second, the guy who's worked on my cars for years says that Porsche's are beautiful cars until they need to be fixed, and then they become money pits. To use the wine connoisseur phrase, I am a QPR guy -- quality to price ratio. I look for value -- I buy stuff on Ebay or Overstock, work bargains any way I can (it's the businessman in me).

Both good points.

In defense of Porsche, Yahoo concluded that, while cars like the 911 are certainly indicative of a mid-life crisis, they may still just be cool enough to be considered worth it...may be even a cure.
I still want one, but to each their own.

As for traveling, you need to dig into this forum's travel section. If you're a white male with some financial means still doing well in the US(not an easy place to date and find quality for a guy, mind you), then you will probably slay in much of Asia and Latin America.

Athlone, Red 911 with rims + body kit = tacky and screams something.

White 911 with brown interior and light tint = classy

When you're ready I will break down which years are better and tell you what pitfalls to avoid. Figure 2k a year minimum for repairs/maintenance

@ Tenderman what kind of game do you run on Craigslist?

[MiXX]

Hey, don't knock the porsches with red rims; I have one!

Mixx

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2011 10:31 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Hey, don't knock the porsches with red rims; I have one!

Mixx

For some reason I think you can pull that off!

I've got a shop full of them today. Thank god I don't have to work on them myself anymore.Total pain in the ass!

Instead I will be putting my efforts into Craigslist poon

[Excelsior]

(07-28-2011 10:28 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Athlone, Red 911 with rims + body kit = tacky and screams something.

White 911 with brown interior and light tint = classy

When you're ready I will break down which years are better and tell you what pitfalls to avoid. Figure 2k a year minimum for repairs/maintenance

Oh, that was just the example the article used. I don't want a GT3 or any of the bodykit/appearance packages. Part of the reason I'd go for the Porsche is to remain lower key, something that's harder to do in a Ferrari/Maserati/etc(the practicality is also appealing). When I do shoot for one(whenever I'm finally old enough to snag one used or new-figure at least a decade from now), it would probably be a C4S in a darker color. I'd also strongly prefer a rear wiper on any 911 I got (must be the European in me), assuming I could find one(it'll certainly be there if I order new).

If I were to buy one today, it'd look like this.

[Excelsior]

(07-28-2011 10:10 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

When it happened, I cooked a nice dinner and had a great bottle of wine. It was the first really outstanding wine she had ever had. The seduction was complete.

Two observations relating to this excellent anecdote.

1. We may want to add 'good wine" to the list of things a guy should strive to have in the ideal bachelor pad. Not sure if its in there yet, haven't checked the thread in a while.

2. Cooking is a great skill to have for seduction if you know how to do it. I've been fortunate to have been taught the basics as a 4-5 year old, and I've cooked regularly since then.

A lot of men cannot do it. If you can surprise a woman with a good homecooked meal, you not only have a solid date idea(rather than the typical dinner/lunch) but you stand out and probably DHV a bit.

[Timoteo]

(07-26-2011 03:43 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

Hello, I am a twice married, twice divorced 59 year old who has discovered the PUA community largely through Glenn Reynolds Instapundit -- Glenn's always been a fan of Roissy and his blog. And, if you don't follow Instapundit, a recurring theme with Glenn is his dismay at the increasing feminization -- and beta -ization -- of men in the culture.

I've been lurking on this forum for the past couple of weeks...and this thread gives me the perfect opportunity to chime in.

Up until I was married the first time -- I was 25 -- I loved the conquest of ladies. I don't think I ever acquired the notches some of you on here did, but I had good luck, with 3-4 hookups every year until I got married. When I got divorced -- at 30 -- we were both effectively poor, so no financial hits, just a parting of the ways.

At that point, I started going to business school in Chicago -- and boy, was that nice. Yes women were career driven, but they were so focused on work they had no time to "develop" a relationship, it was go to class, fuck, study -- rinse and repeat. Oh, a few were trying to land the next investment banker, but you could always tell which ones were trying to land a husband and a degree simultaneously.

From about 33 when I finished, until 38, when I got married, it was, as the German U-Boat captains said in the early part of the war, the "happy time." To keep the metaphor going, I was firing my torpedo more or less on a continuous basis. Waitresses, actresses, executive types, dental assistants. I loved taking the El -- I met two women on there one year who became more or less ongoing FWBs. The game was simple, look, smile, get off their stop, approach, chat, "Want to have coffee?" arrange to meet. The actress turned out to live around the corner from me, and I could call her up anytime and say, "Want to get together?" and I would go over and fire away.

Well, I got married at 38, had a kid, bought a suburban house, and settled into the life of boring domesticity. Started a couple of businesses, one failed, one did OK, which I sold. As soon as the kid got to college, divorce. This time though a bit of financial hit, but not too bad.

So, 56 out on my own again. Nice little house -- not a McMansion, but nice. And I thought I am going to be beating off until dirt nap time.

Boy, was I wrong. Even at my age there are opportunities EVERYwhere. I do the POF, OKCupid, Craigslist thing, in addition to the day game stuff...and have met dozens of women. Alas, too old for the nightclub scene, but the very upscale hotel bar scene has been productive.

Love the 40-year old married women whose husbands are either boring or simply not equipped. One told me "I love doing it with you -- we can do it sideways but he's so small he can't get it in there." One 43 year old I had a year long fling with looked like Rachel Ray and paid for everything -- hotel rooms, weekends away.

And the young ones with Daddy issues! They are the best. I see this Harvard junior every time she is home on summer vacation, or winter/spring break. "All the boys I know are just boys..." she says. Likes it a bit rough, happy to oblige.

Anyway, the game is not over when you pass 35. Now, you are not necessarily going to bang the tight skinned 25 year olds, you will have to go up in age range, but let me tell, the 40 somethings can be quite something, especially if they are doing yoga and pilates regularly.

Here are some things though I think are crucial to keep the game going, well into the 60s.

--Stay fit. I workout like a maniac -- I have done P90x twice, and am trying to do Insanity -- at 59. Gotta work out 6 days a week. No excuses.

--Stay healthy. That means see a doctor, once a year, know your cholesterol and blood pressure, get it under control. I do not use the little blue pill...and will work like hell to avoid it.

--Get a vasectomy. Yes condoms are essential, but if you don't want any more kids, why even the remotest risk?

--Stay technologically savvy. If I see a nice looking woman with an iPhone, I ask her, "What's your favorite app?" She tells me, and then asks me, and I tell her "Dragon Naturally Speaking" -- a voice recognition program where you can speak into the phone and text comes out. I say, "Just met a stimulating woman" -- (not a compliment, not a neg) -- and show her the text on the screen. A great opener.

--Stay culturally up do date. Know the top TV shows, hot bands (this for the youngsters). For the white college chicks, you need to know who Arcade Fire is, and why they are important.

--Dress well. You're older, so the American Eagle look won't cut it. I love Tommy Bahama -- elegant, projects taste, understated.

--Find a good dermatologist. I won't do plastic surgery, but face peels are very effective.

--Drive a NICE car...but not a flashy car. I could afford a Benz or a Lexus, but I like the high-end Hondas -- leather interior. An Acura would be fine. No Porsche's or, God forbid, a Vette. Reeks of the mid-life crisis.

Finally, here's the thing you have to keep in mind. While there will be occasional 8s and above, for the most part they will be the exception rather than the rule. And things aren't going to be as frequent.

But there is no reason why you can't have a reasonably active sex life with good variety.

I'm 48, and though I've never been married and have no kids, I envision the life you laid out. I've never been much into the club scene, though I still like the laid-back lounge for nightlife. I'm into online for internationals in the 38 - 50 range, and yes, there are plenty out there that are attractive and active and in shape. In the last 2 years I've hit a 47 year old in Phoenix, a 44 year old in Merida, Mexico and a 42 year old Brazilian living in London. I have more potentials lined up, and always planning for who I'm going to hit next. I've always kept in shape, and I have P90X too, though I don't have the space to use it yet. I do work with some heavy dumbells and an exercise ball. If a man keeps himself looking right, and appears to be enjoying life, there are tons of women out there to hit off. Like you said, they may not be in their 20s, but so what?

[tenderman100]

(07-28-2011 10:28 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Craigs List? Seriously? People use that to meet Potential partners for sex?

I thought that was a myth. I've only used CL to sell shit I don't want without hefty EBay fees.

Mixx

I've met three women from there.
Here's the thing -- I not only know how to talk, I know how to write. When you write well, women swoon.

One from CL I am seeing, who is married, is a hairdresser, - love the working class girls -- who gives me the best kisses and head. She wants to nurture. She gives me coconut oil massages. She comes to my house after work on Saturdays from time to time -- tells hubby she's visiting her sister -- I cook her dinner and we fuck like animals. She says, "I can't believe you're 59! When you were on top in plank I could feel your muscles tense."

P90X baby!!

And then she goes home around midnight. It's a dream come true.

[tenderman100]

Here's a CL Ad I posted late last year. 5 replies. It's written in the language of cheesy romance novels. Ladies love this shit.

Quote:


I am a sexy, sensual distinguished looking sexy older man (50s) who would love to meet an open, uninhibited, sensual married woman (age and appearance not an issue) for extended and mutually satisfying erotic interludes.

I consider myself a very skilled and talented lover--meaning with me there will be mental AND physical stimulation. Let me explain…and let your imagination run as you read this. Here’s how it can go…

We correspond...exchange pictures…and decide to meet for a drink in a quiet café. You see me for the first time – elegant salt and pepper hair, blazing blue eyes. We shake hands….I keep my hand in yours for just a moment more than usual so that it becomes an erotic touch…you feel my soft hands, and I feel yours, and your nails…we sit down…and talk…and I make you laugh…I reach over occasionally and lightly touch your arm…or your hand…I look you in the eyes..and you me…we laugh as we talk in clever double entendre…

You’re excited now. You know it. So I am I. We leave together and go to a private place alone…inside we sit, and I stroke your arm and hand and whisper to you… you laugh…I entwine my hands in yours…we squeeze hands together…I take up your hand and kiss it, first with just lips…and then open my mouth slightly so you can feel the moistness of my mouth…I look up into your face, and caress it with my hands…you lean toward me…our lips touch gently…I kiss you on the cheek, pull away for a second…another gentle kiss, and then kiss you ear lobe and then your neck…I move back and look at you face to face…kiss your lips again…and then our mouths open and our tongues entwine and flutter…our arms are around each other…I caress your back…we keep kissing and kissing, first gently, then deeply, then gently again…

And this is just the beginning of an extended, erotic, mind-blowing session of intimate and exquisitely pleasurable lovemaking where together we explore caress, kiss, lick, and rub every cell of each other’s skin…and enter each other’s bodies in pure passion, avaricious abandonment, and ecstatic delight.

So….interested? .

Look, you simply won’t meet man on here who will do this for you.

Some more about me. Sophisticated, educated, worldly, very intelligent. Love good wine, good food, great sex. Successful (though not interested in pay for play in any way or being a sugar daddy). Physically, I am younger than my age. Can do 25 pushups and 50 sit-ups. HWP,5"10", 180, strong and fit, but tender and gentle. D/D free of course. Always do the safe dance.

Bottom line, with me, you will be getting strictly a stimulating FWB -- no commitment, no falling in love, no psychodramas, no craziness of any kind.

So take a chance. Let’s correspond, exchange some emails, then some pictures, and if the conversation goes the way you like it, let’s meet in public…and let our imagination guide us.

[Samseau]

Nice man.

[MiXX]

I'm lazy. I'll just copy/paste your and modify the parts were age and looks don't matter you wrote, and my age.

Just kidding. CL does not inspire me to chase women, it inspires to sell shit or get a hot, bitchin' ride from a desperate soul tight on $$$.

Mixx

[tenderman100]

(07-28-2011 01:33 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I'm lazy. I'll just copy/paste your and modify the parts were age and looks don't matter you wrote, and my age.

Just kidding. CL does not inspire me to chase women, it inspires to sell shit or get a hot, bitchin' ride from a desperate soul tight on $$$.

Mixx

Feel free to copy paste...try it.

I'm lazy too...I can write this stuff in about 10 minutes. Post it, and they come.

By the way, I hooked up with two women in Phoenix and Dallas posting on CL telling them I was traveling on business. The woman in Dallas was tremendous -- got her back to my hotel room, went to the bathroom for a second, and she had disrobed and was bending over the desk. She had the the most amazing clit.

Of course, age and appearance DO matter, but I am not letting THAT on.

Women like to IMAGINE. So you tell them "Imagine...." and they do it. The hamster to the tiny piece of cheese.

[el mechanico]

(07-28-2011 01:40 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

(07-28-2011 01:33 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I'm lazy. I'll just copy/paste your and modify the parts were age and looks don't matter you wrote, and my age.

Just kidding. CL does not inspire me to chase women, it inspires to sell shit or get a hot, bitchin' ride from a desperate soul tight on $$$.

Mixx

Feel free to copy paste...try it.

I'm lazy too...I can write this stuff in about 10 minutes. Post it, and they come.

By the way, I hooked up with two women in Phoenix and Dallas posting on CL telling them I was traveling on business. The woman in Dallas was tremendous -- got her back to my hotel room, went to the bathroom for a second, and she had disrobed and was bending over the desk. She had the the most amazing clit.

Of course, age and appearance DO matter, but I am not letting THAT on.

Women like to IMAGINE. So you tell them "Imagine...." and they do it. The hamster to the tiny piece of cheese.

Good shit Tenderman!! I write for shit. I will try that.
Are you posting under casual encounters?

[CupCake]

(07-28-2011 10:28 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Craigs List? Seriously? People use that to meet Potential partners for sex?

I thought that was a myth. I've only used CL to sell shit I don't want without hefty EBay fees.

It's worked for me. A lot of shit you don't want though. Hah!

Nice thread, btw.

[tenderman100]

(07-28-2011 10:49 PM)CupCake Wrote:  

(07-28-2011 10:28 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Craigs List? Seriously? People use that to meet Potential partners for sex?

I thought that was a myth. I've only used CL to sell shit I don't want without hefty EBay fees.

It's worked for me. A lot of shit you don't want though. Hah!

Nice thread, btw.

Right, there is a lot or crap you have to go through.

But over the past 3 years I have had some good success.

As I said, I am still seeing the married hairdresser. It's been amazing in so many ways.