[Giovonny]

Here is a simple move that has increased my success in my street approaches.

I see a girl I like walking down a busy street. I position myself so that I am walking in the same direction as her, sometimes this means stopping, turning around, crossing the street, etc.

Ideally, she would be walking right behind me, in the same direction, right about to catch up with me.

I pretend I don't even notice her. I am already on the phone when we get close to each other. I speak loudly enough so she can hear me. I speak calmly and clearly and I lie my ass off, dropping DHV's and presenting myself as a high status alpha.

I try to speak in a way that will get her attention. I might tell a joke or be in an argument, or I might say shit in Spanish or Portuguese. It just depends on the girl and what I think will get her attention. Its important to project my voice in a strong, confident way.

Your voice and presence is a projection of your swag. If you do it right, she will notice you and she might even get a little moist just listening to you. I can say whatever I want, I am talking to myself!!! (be sure and turn your ringer off)

I want my vibe and energy to dominate the space around us. I want her to to "feel" me.

This gives the girl a chance to "get to know me" a little bit before I actually approach her.

I call it "Pre-Approaching". You are Gaming the girl before you even talk to her. She can hear you talking about cool, interesting, and exciting things.

After a minute or 2 of this, and the girl is walking right behind me or right next to me. I hang up and immediately open her. I pretend like I never even noticed her until after I finished my phone call. Often times, it you do it well, they will make eye contact with you after you hang up.

This is one way to "warm up" a "cold" approach.

[Gmac]

So you're having a conversation with yourself for two minutes? Sounds like too much effort to me.

[thegmanifesto]

Yeah, I like this move, although I don't really do it anymore.

We had a thread a while back on "the fake phone call".

I am sure someone can find it via search.

You can really have some fun with this one.

Update:

Here is the thread: How to use your cell phone as a wingman

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-974.html

[hypesession]

yea its a good move. fun

it's just a tool to get your target's eyes on you that's all.

[Giovonny]

The beauty of this move is that you are sort of indirectly introducing yourself to the girl. She can hear your voice and get a feel for your vibe. If you handle yourself smoothly on the phone, she might develop a little interest and curiosity about you even before you even approach. Its just a way to show some value and try to get an advantage right away. Day time cold approaching is hard enough. We need any advantage we can get. This move can come in handy on a train platform, at a bus stop, walking down the street, or even getting into an elevator.

[thegmanifesto]

"I hang up and immediately open her. I pretend like I never even noticed her until after I finished my phone call."

I think this part is key.

It give you a little "momentum" on the Street Open.

[DTA]

I love shit like this. It adds a feeling of excitement/espionage to the whole thing.

[Giovonny]

Update:

"CUSTOMIZED Fake Phone Calls"

I use the "Fake Phone Call" alot on the street. I let the girl hear me speaking in a strong, clear voice, about stuff that makes me look cool or high value. Sometimes, I pretend to speak in another language.

Recently, I have taken this move a step further. I now customize the fake conversation to fit the girl I am targeting. I look at her race, look, style of dress, etc, and try to say things that will catch her attention.

Here are 2 examples from yesterday:

Asian girl, modern, sexy, straight black hair, clean skin, doll face, short skirt, fashionable, confident, educated.

She walked right past me on the street. I turned around and started walking in her direction. As I got within about 8 feet of her, I started my fake phone call:

..."Latinos don't even use the word Latino, no one is gonna say 'I'm Latino, they're gonna say I'm Mexican or I'm Colombian or I'm Peruvian. People hate that, Its just like all Latinos don't want to be called Mexican"

Now, I am right behind her, maybe 5 feet, I continue the fake phone call:

..."Its the same with Asians I think, people identify with the country they are from. You can't just say it was a bunch of
Chinese people. Not all Asians are Chinese. Its the same thing for them as it is for us.

Blah, Blah, Blah. I walk right past her without ever looking at her. I speak loud and proud. As I get in front of her a few feet I wrap up the fake phone call:

..."ok, type it up like that and send me a copy, make sure you bcc me on that email, whatever you do, don't cc me on it. Quadruple check everything and just text me."

I hang up. I'm a few feet in front of her. She opens me right away:

Her: Excuse me
Me: Hi (pretending to look surprised and cautious because a strange girl just opened me)
Her: I was listening to your conversation
Me: Really? you're so nosey!
Her: Well, you were talking loud
Me: Uh-huh
Her: I totally agree with what you were saying. I hate "umbrella terms". I'm majoring in political science and Asian studies so I'm always talking to people about that.
Me: Ya, its funny hah?
Her: Yes, I just got back from Hong Kong and blah blah blah
Me: I just back from Brazil, blah blah blah

We walked and talked for a few blocks. Once I felt we had build a little connection, I decided to get her number and eject.

Me: I'm going this way. Nice meeting you.
Her: Nice to meet you too. See you around.
Me: Maybe we should exchange numbers and get a drink sometime
Her: sure

[Giovonny]

Example #2

White girl, cute hippy, jeans, colorful shirt, flower in hair, scarf, Peruvian style hand bag.

I knew she was the type who would like travel stories, foreign languages and stuff like that. Shes was ahead of me so I had to walk fast to catch up to her...

Me: Oi irmao, tudu bem, fica in caza, elles quire jogar futebol en la praia, nao, noa, fala con elles, ah mi dios, que isso

Thats literally about all the Portuguese I know.

I get even closer to the girl and walk right past her. I continue with the fake Portuguese..

"Ta bon cara, me liga amanaha, ate mais, tchaua, belleza"

I hang up and turn slightly over my shoulder to open her:

Me: Cool bag, is that from Peru?
Her: Hah, it looks like that doesn't it? But I got it in Alabama
Me: What? Alabama?! I was thinking more like South America or something
Her: I know, my aunt got it for me. Hey what language were you just speaking?
Me: Oh thats Portuguese. From Brazil.
Her: I was wondering were that was from. It sounds cool
Me: Do you speak any other languages?
Her: No, just English, but I'm practicing my Italian.
Me: Portuguese is the cousin of Italian.
Her: Are you Brazilian?
Me: Ya (not true), how bout you?
Her: German and Italian

Blah Blah Blah. I knew she was feeling me because she was giving me good eye contact, smiling, laughing, and asking me personal questions.

Her: It was so nice chatting with you
Me: Ya, you too, why don't you give me your number and we can get a drink or something.
Her: Ya, I'd be down for that.

Handed her my phone.

Try this move guys. It can take a cold street approach and turn it into a warm street approach.

[Jarocho2003]

Ok obvious question what happens if your phone rings while you're pretending to be on a call? You put it on vibrate or have it turned off...remove the simcard? What?

[Moma]

(09-01-2011 02:33 PM)Jarocho2003 Wrote:  

Ok obvious question what happens if your phone rings while you're pretending to be on a call? You put it on vibrate or have it turned off...remove the simcard? What?

Just say you have call waiting or you have programmed a ringer to remind you of some appointment you have got to make (sound important).

Most lizards are not tech savvy enough and will just give you benefit of the doubt.

[PDX]

That's good stuff.

There's a variation I use for when I'm walking through the park/square and see a girl sitting alone on a bench. Right as I'm approaching her space, I'll suddenly get a call, which means I have to sit down, naturally. Of course, I sit a few feet away (depending on how big the bench is and how crowded the environment is) and turn 3/4 away from her while I have my "conversation," like I'm not even noticing she's there. I then hang up and sit poking at my phone, and then I open her. At first, I'm still looking at my phone, but I'll slowly turn my head toward her as I'm about halfway through the first sentence (subtle, but works). Fluff talk, then number close/instadate.

I could get more creative with the fake phone conversation though. Usually I just prattle on making plans for a party or concert later.

[DTA]

Another good addendum to this would be asking the girl a question while on the phone as if the person on the other end is inquiring (asking for directions to pet store or Victoria's Secret to imply it's a female you're talking to, etc), and then telling the person on the phone the target's answer. When you hang up, you can open her with a "thanks, you didn't look like you were from around here" and go from there.

You'd have to be a true psychopath to pull that off correctly, but I'm always up for some insanity.

[DTA]

(09-01-2011 01:54 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Update:

"CUSTOMIZED Fake Phone Calls"

Sometimes, I pretend to speak in another language.

Genius.

[Chad Daring]

This is good stuff, and I'd say if you arent lying (in the sense that the things you're saying are true) its a good hype up for yourself as well.

[Screwston]

Has anyone else tried this? I dont think I can pull it off but it sounds like a great idea.

[adubz]

Great idea, OP. I actually do this often, especially to girls I'm either going to talk to, or if I see girls coming to sit by me in the lounge at my school. The confident voice thing is key. I often find myself imagining that I'm talking to one of my friends who always gets himself into shit and I have to help him out of his jam and correct him. That way I sound confident, and I appear very knowledgeable. It actually takes little to no work for me, since I love rambling on anyway.

Another tactic to use is to imagine another one of my friends who likes to talk a lot. I'll just tell him I'm busy, especially if I have my laptop out, and act like I'm constantly trying to get off the phone with him. This one works a bit more often, as I'll have some exasperated expression on my face, and it'll catch the eye of a girl whom I'll look at and give a quick smile, wave, and some little funny comment that gets us to both chuckle. If she comments on it first, then I'm more intrigued.

[Aliblahba]

I might have to try this. My Samsung Wave II has a fake call feature built in. Hit a button and a couple minutes later the phone will ring. You can even make a recording so there's an actual voice your talking to. It will work for just sitting in a bar, and not being confined on the street. It will look much less suspect than randomly picking up the phone and talking.

Quick brainstorm. Walk into an establishment. Open a chick. Let the fake call hit about 1 minute after the convo starts. Use a routine noted in thread. Hang up. Wait for her questions. Am I on track here?

[Giovonny]

(09-27-2011 08:08 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Quick brainstorm. Walk into an establishment. Open a chick. Let the fake call hit about 1 minute after the convo starts. Use a routine noted in thread. Hang up. Wait for her questions. Am I on track here?

Well, I like to use this move before I open the chick. I position myself so that she can hear me talking. I talk in a strong and smooth voice. I show value. I "drop bait". I often "customize" the call to fit the girl. I try to talk about topics that will catch her attention.

I like your idea of using the fake phone call after you have already opened her. Answer that fake phone call and display yourself as cool and high value. Talk about something interesting, exciting, and sexy. You are making it all up so you can really go crazy and lie your ass off to get her attention. Then after you hang up, she should be sort of curious about what you were talking about.

Speak in a strong, manly, and clear voice.

Pretend that you are speaking to your military commander about going on a secret mission or something crazy like that.

[La Familia]

I've used this technique before multiple times, and you can get away with almost anything so long as your tone is confident and direct. Make sure you're not doing all of the talking--let in time for some pauses to make the conversation sound more realistic. One of my favorite routines to pull at a bar is to make my friend out to be short tempered and impatient, then ask the set you're about to open a simple question like the name of the bar, or how to get there from a nearby restaurant (your phone friend's location).

Me: [on the phone, next to the set I'm about to open] Okay Steve, where are you right now?
(pause for a few seconds)
Me: I have no idea where that is...(open up the target) Do you know where X restaurant is?
At this point, she will either know or not, and you can use her answer as more convo bait. Afterwards, this is where you can make your friend come off as an impatient sob, and say something along the lines of:
Me: Alright man, don't get too worked up about this, it's just drinks. We'll reschedule for another time.

If done correctly, your target will be intrigued as to why your "friend" decides not to show up. You can then ramble on about the area you're in, how short tempered people can be, etc. Take it any direction you want.

[drymarro]

great posts. this completely revolutionizes day game. I'm going to try this tomorrow at Uni and see how this works out.
note I haven't even approached a girl at Uni so this will be a 1st for both

[thegmanifesto]

The first go round on this technique was kind of dissed.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-974.html

People are coming around.

[Aliblahba]

@Giovonny- I've been giving this a lot of thought. Your routine would work better on the street. I think if you opened a girl walking, and started talking on the phone, she may bail. It would be more fitting too if you were sitting next a chic in a bar, that wasn't giving any IOI's. Opening her first and then talking might piss her off. I'm thinking of past experiences when my phone actually rang during macking.

I tried to make out some skits, but they didn't seem natural enough. I've been rehearsing recent important conversations in my head to use. They were real, and should come off far more believable.

We have some inspiring actors on the forum. You guys have any advice for practicing these routines?

[jtbabycarrots]

Here's how you pull it off, from the movie "Meet Joe Black";

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ope1tNwRNO4


Notice how he creates 1) an entire story thread that he can pick up on later when he approaches. Then 2) he hits an emotional chord by showing that he cares, by giving advice and saying, "I love you".

You could literally do this every time. Give advice passionately (loudly) and finish off with a "I love you" or a "I'm always here for you".

[pitt]

(05-19-2014 06:27 PM)jtbabycarrots Wrote:  

Here's how you pull it off, from the movie "Meet Joe Black";

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ope1tNwRNO4


Notice how he creates 1) an entire story thread that he can pick up on later when he approaches. Then 2) he hits an emotional chord by showing that he cares, by giving advice and saying, "I love you".

You could literally do this every time. Give advice passionately (loudly) and finish off with a "I love you" or a "I'm always here for you".

haha I love those kind of movies. I am not even a movie guy but I am going to watch the whole movie right now (funny that I never heard of it).

Great post giovonny, actually I used to do this shit years ago, I need to start re-doing it again.