[MiscBrah]

delete

Stay safe Roosh. We're all behind you.

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

High Ground taken

[n0000]

Excellent foresight in this situation. You have to set an example for other false accusers. If you can't back up your accusations with facts, don't make them. Nobody would accept people going around alleging murder. They would want to see a body, a murder weapon, etc. We cannot have accusations of heinous crimes without any evidence in a civil society.

[Roadrunner]

That was the most outlandish thing I have read in a while. It's preposterous to even humor reading it to it's full ending and it is clear libel and defamation. I would ask her to give back her High School diploma as she clearly hasn't earned or deserved it, especially given her being a writer, but knowing the kind of person who writes such childishly attempted character assassination she probably has been in the schooling system for longer than I have been alive.
Speak of the devil:
https://www.elance.com/s/sjanegari/

Education

New York University
Master of Arts in English
1998 - 1999
State University of New York at Stony Brook
B.A. in English
1991 - 1996

[n0000]

Good God man what is wrong with that women? Gotta admit I am surprised she isnt 250 lbs, 5'2" with short blue hair.

[EvanWilson]

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[Dusty]

   

[Renzy]

^^ That's the "magical realism" of Father time catching up with her.

[EvanWilson]

Her comments seem to be that she thinks because she is saying it is 'alleged', that it can't be libel, which is wrong.

Here is her comment:
Jane Gari · Stony Brook University
"This woman came to me with her story, and I believed her. However, I am not a law enforcement agency, nor am I a court of law. That is why everything stated here is "alleged". That being said, a woman did come forward and accuse him, and that flies in the face of Roosh pretending there aren't women out there saying he's hurt them. The woman from Iceland ("Susan") has also told me she's in contact with two other women from Poland who have very similar stories. I hope these women will go to authorities to officially report what happened to them to start a legal investigation. For now, I'm just a writer who is sympathetic to people who have been wronged, especially since I've been in similar (although less extreme) circumstances."

Short discussion on this issue here of using the word 'alleged':
http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-res...leged-crim
Am I protected if I use the word "alleged" in crime stories?

Only if you attribute the statement to an official source that you are privileged to report. If you opt to use the verb "allege" in a crime story, the subject of the sentence should be "police," "the law suit," "an indictment" or some other official source, which is then fairly and accurately reported. Keep in mind that reliance on an official documentary source over informal disclosures by officials is always best.
- See more at: http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-res...AhLch.dpuf

In short, S. Jane Gari does not know the law in this area and her belief that the word 'alleged' makes it not libel is completely wrong.

In Gari own posted comment, she admits that there is nothing official to cite, which is where the use of the word 'alleged' would have given her some protection from libel.

[Roosh]

(02-18-2016 05:42 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  

Her comments seem to be that she thinks because she is saying it is alleged, that someone it is not libel, which is wrong.

If you're about to levy criminal allegations against someone, gleaning law from Google is not a good idea, which is what she apparently did.

[Roosh]

I definitely appreciate all supportive comments, and a lot of them are funny, but I ask that you refrain from anything that might be deemed to be "harassment" of Gari, including doxxing or negative comments about her appearance.

We already have the moral high guard and don't need to lower ourselves on the level of SJWs like Gari.

[Jura]

(02-18-2016 05:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

[Gmac]

Yikes.

[realologist]

Good luck Roosh.

Hopefully you are a glorious victor and will have writers think twice about blatantly lying in their articles for clicks.

[LongDongSilver]

Be very careful you have stirred a hornets nest this sort of witch hunt and internet wide search for a victim could have terrible consequences.

[Wutang]

Remember when that artist girl had a project where she was trying to track down girls who had slept with Roosh and no one came forth? Funny how girls are now supposely coming forward at the same time the MSM is trying desperately trying to keep the narrative that Roosh is a rapist afloat.

[TheFinalEpic]

Law 15: Crush your enemy totally.

I look forward to following this.

[Off The Reservation]

Your lawyer is awesome

WHAT A GREAT LETTER

[Gmac]

(02-18-2016 06:47 PM)offthereservation Wrote:  

Your lawyer is awesome

WHAT A GREAT LETTER

Randazza is fantastic. Known one of his old associates for years.

He's also on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrLuHUN...SSn-TAQOhQ

[BortimusPrime]

This really shows how Roosh is being made into a scapegoat for all the pent-up cognitive dissonance that SJWs have over the migrant rape crisis. What Roosh is being slandered having done reads an awful lot like the actions of a rapefugee, not the gray area date rapist stuff that we usually see out of feminist drivel.

[nomadbrah]

Loved that letter, setting the snare, tightening the noose, the more you wriggle the more it tightens, only thing to do is lie flat on your belly and hope for mercy. That's some good lawyering there.

[Scoundrel]

Gari's/"Susan's" account lacks the ring of truth on several fronts.

First, as was pointed out EvanWilson, it's odd that a woman in Iceland would contact this particular blogger/author to tell her story.

Quote:

One of Roosh’s victims read my blog back in November and reached out to me, asking for my help in exposing him. She finally agreed to be interviewed after seeing how he continues to spout his poisonous, misogynist rhetoric with sickening bravado.

Susan "finally" agreed to talk to Gari about the allegations — yet it was Susan who supposedly contacted Gari in November, for the express purpose of "exposing" Roosh.

(It would make more sense if Gari said she was initially skeptical of Susan's story, but after months of communication, she has decided that Susan is sincere & is telling the truth.)

Gari claims she "interviewed" Susan. Yet if this is true, she has chosen a strange way of presenting Susan's tale: not in Susan's voice, but in third person, in effect as a reporter relaying a factual story.

Quote:

He laughed and overpowered her with force, saying, “All girls like this. It’s every woman’s fantasy. You don’t even know what you’re saying. You’re drunk, but I like drunk girls.”

"He laughed and overpowered her with force" deserves to be in the Purple Prose Hall of Fame.

"Laughed" is a specific action — "overpowered her with force" is totally vague. What specifically did he do? How did he overpower her? What kind of "force" was used?

Quote:

And then, according to Susan, he raped her.

The crux of the matter, the core accusation, the claim that could easily ruin a man's life and reputation forever, stated in just three small words: "he raped her." No details, no description, no specifics. (As Nineteen84's helpful text comparison link below shows, the sentence initially did not even include "according to Susan.")

We get to hear all about the events leading up to the rape — yet the crime itself is stated in exactly ten letters.

How did Roosh "rape" her? What did he do? How long did the "rape" go on? What took place immediately afterward?

Gari's account jumps to an undetermined later point in time when Susan discovered Roosh's books — a discovery which, according to Gari, "mortified" Susan. One imagines that a rape victim would be much more "mortified" by the fact that she has been raped, than by learning of her alleged rapist's literary output.

Susan, naturally, did not report the rape to the authorities. "He’s an American and she lives in Iceland," Gari explains. "She feels she has no recourse."

Susan might feel that way now, but did Roosh magically vanish from Iceland moments after raping her? It's preposterous that a woman would fail to report a rape to the police on the grounds that the rapist is a foreign tourist.

It all reads like bad, poorly thought-out fiction. I wish Roosh & his legal team victory.

[Nineteen84]

Some serious changes where made to that article:

First Version as originally published with no disclaimer (9 Feb 2016 21:24:35 UTC): https://archive.is/Rlxwj

Modified Version with disclaimer and text changes (10 Feb 2016 06:19:30 UTC): https://archive.is/xNgyv


Here you can compare the differences between the two articles (shows text removals and additions):

https://www.diffchecker.com/e9sc96ns

[Libertas]

The whole thing reads as fiction. Even actual rapists don't do what "Susan" is accusing you of doing.

It's very much the Rolling Stone "beer bottle to the face" thing rearing its ugly head again (actual beer bottles don't break when thrown at a human head).

Good on you Roosh. Fight back. These people need to be held accountable, no matter how small or big they are.

[EvanWilson]

(02-18-2016 05:47 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 05:42 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  

Her comments seem to be that she thinks because she is saying it is alleged, that someone it is not libel, which is wrong.

If you're about to levy criminal allegations against someone, gleaning law from Google is not a good idea, which is what she apparently did.

I think it is worse than that. There have been a few recent cases about what one needs to do in order to have the protections accorded to journalists, which a google search would have lead her to.

She cites to no case authority, or how or why she thinks that saying it is 'alleged' is ok. It appears to be just how she feels things work.

I wonder if she deliberately did not check the story (or even if there is even a Susan that told the story to her) or her use of 'alleged' because she didn't want to find out that both beliefs are wrong.