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11-15-2015, 09:15 PM
I lived in Germany (Bavaria) close to the Czech Border. Germany and Austria don't get a lot of love on this forum but I had a great time in those two countries. I travelled throughout Europe spending time in Czech Republic, Poland, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, and Greece. I also spent time in Ukraine but that is a totally different animal altogether.
I agree 100 percent with Princeton.
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11-15-2015, 09:24 PM
The only place I met an American woman, and really enjoyed it was in Warsaw, Poland.
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11-15-2015, 10:46 PM
"Agreed, and this makes it very difficult for us older cats to date a younger girl in the states. It's socially verboten for there to be a large age gap in the US, unless you meet a FOB who doesn't run in American social citcles."
There are other exceptions though. If the girl wants something from you, the most vapid American will jump into bed with you because she's seen this behavior on TV. For an American girl its ok to be a whore if a celebrity has done it. Other guys lure younger women in with drugs. I personally find both of these things pretty unethical so on to some more positive alternatives...
I know of older guys hanging out with younger American women who keep it very discreet. They mostly meet online and through day game. There are quite a few intellectual younger women who are completely disgusted with the dooshy and/or beta personas of most young American guys. So if you can find one of these girls it might be a very good thing. A few months ago I was hanging out with a hot, nerdy American 25 year old. Unfortunately she was pretty bad in bed and in my estimation too uptight to be trained.
I personally have scored much younger women by getting into a younger social circle as the cool, good looking, older guy. I have also scored with much younger women at night clubs. Again we were very discreet and I look a lot younger than I am.
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11-17-2015, 01:49 PM
RP, thanks for posting up this thead, I also had a simular experience last year when returned home from Paris, France. I got major play from quite a few woman while I was there but unfortunately my host was a major pussy blocking, pain in the azz but best believe come 2016, I'm on my way back there hopefully to live and enjoy life there.
Btw, I'm also in So Cal so I know what you're going through, a lot of attention whoring, entitlement, unrealistic expectations and diva mentality havin azz dames who enjoy punking or trying to punk any guy who will kiss their asses for date which will for the poor sap who falls into this trap, will amount to nothing more than a free meal for her, giving her all the vitamins and nutrients she needs for energy to go fuck some other guy who she really wants to be with but he doesn't want her !!!
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11-20-2015, 10:23 PM
What's Anglo Canada's excuse then? While there are uni sororities/frats/societies & sports teams, they're nowhere near the center of college life they are in the US.
But college educated women are just as vapid, self centered bordering on perpetual adolescents in Ontario as they are anywhere on the US East coast. Either you immediately fit whatever prerequisites their clique has or you're immediately passed over for mere acceptance to begin the shit test interview cycle that passes for dating in the GTA.
Sorry I never finished a degree, or even attended any university. I was too busy starting my own company in between serving overseas. Was fixed up on a double date by an ex-FWB, and put up with a night of shit by a Brock grad that was another self deluded 6. It's just not even worth the effort once you've seen the greener pastures.
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11-21-2015, 08:16 PM
OP, I think the big difference you're experiencing between American women and foreign women are the economic settings, but I think you understand that already.
In America they are self-sufficient. They have their own job/money and they don't worry about food, shelter, and medicine. This allows them to indulge in whatever shakes their fancy at the moment. Bad-boys, rich-boys, poor-boys, funny-boys, popular-boys, artists, felons, etc.
Every woman wants a man to give them what they can't get for themselves. I don't think there is a place on earth where that's not true.
Bases on that fundamental, universal law, take a look at your current surroundings and you might see why women are valuing certain things over others in men.
As far as looks go, I think every woman appreciates a good-looking guy. I don't think American women value that less and there are a ton of good looking, tall men in America. In the Phil, if you are a foreigner and at least a 3 you are handsome.
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11-28-2015, 12:46 PM
One thing that boggles my mind is the lack of eye contact that people make in Canada, at least on the west coast where I am. I started noticing it a few months ago in Edmonton, I was out walking down the main drag near my house so I did a little experiment and every person girl I walked by, I would keep my head high and look at them, if they maintained eye contact, I'd say hello and keep going. I think I passed about twenty women, most of them would look down at the side walk in an odd manner or look away (some where already looking at their phone), the only two who maintained eye contact to the point where I said hello were an elderly lady and a black African looking chick, both smiled and said hello back. I was fresh in town after a five month stint in Colombia (the happiest country in the world) where people are always smiling, laughing and talking and the lack of eye contact was something that I really noticed. I've since moved to BC on the coast and its the same here, the girls are socially awkward, in the past week I've said hello to two women in my condo building as I exited the elevator, neither said hello back, as if I didn't exist, that is considered to be highly rude in some cultures.
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11-28-2015, 01:30 PM
^^^ I'm back in Canada (Montreal) after being abroad for a year and I know exactly what you mean. Here in Quebec nobody makes eye contact either. If you catch someone looking at you they quickly look away or down. In Ukraine where I spent the summer, girls are always looking at you and giving a variety of IOIs. Hair toss, seductive walking, proximity, etc. and it's totally normal to go up and say hi.
I'm still in touch with a hot little 20 year I was banging from Kiev. She recently moved to Amsterdam to be an au-pair and she commented on how no one gives her any attention on the street anymore and how she misses it.
In Canada there's an adversarial vibe between men and women. It's like both are thinking, ya I find you attractive but I'm not going to show it because then you win. I've done some day game here and while girls have been pleasant for the most part, there's rarely a good spark. They're asexual. It's just not normal to be sexually expressive in this country.
Needless to say I'm planning another exit strategy.
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11-29-2015, 08:40 AM
I realized the same thing as Slay it forward..I feel like there's always a confrontational stage between the girl and the guy where nobody is really winning at the early stage..even in a western coubtry like France girls are more flirty and guys are expected to make a move while here you will automatically be labeled as a guy trying to be or as a player.
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11-30-2015, 03:18 PM
I take it Berlin vs Czech border Bavaria is sort of like comparing NYC to some really country town in the deep south...? There were more foreign chicks in Berlin than natives first off, and the natives were completely shown up by the women from all over the world. I'd even say girls in the UK are naturally a lot prettier than the germans. The problem is most UK girls are poisoned by the environment by their early 20s so comparing natural beauty is difficult at that age.
As far as german chicks in Berlin, a couple outliers but they were generally plain, boring and they have a rigid formality about them like they can't take a joke. The german dudes are chill but (and I mean this in as non offensive a manner as possible) boring as fuck. They fit well with their women, I can only imagine german courtship is like watching a play by play of how sloths mate.
There is a big hipster culture there, with tourists and native hippies/neon haired freaks/short haired freaks/mutilated/defaced natives mixing and taking drugs and going to techno clubs and mosh pit clubs at crazy hours. There was also this very large hippie fest in the day time, I found it hella gay and a bit too liberal for my liking (dudes in skintight pink plastic booty shorts breakdancing to Will Smith)... The plus side was that it was huge and attracted some absolutely stunning foreign hoes, and the atmosphere was so relaxed, no police about, no trouble, despite there being huge numbers strung across a large area of grassland. When concerts of this size go down in the UK, there is a massive police presence and private security on top. I didn't see much cold approaching and I guess most people were with their social circles there too, but you could say any old lame thing to strike up a conversation and 95% of the time it was well received. It's a lot more difficult in the UK for reasons already mentioned in this thread.
The reasons for it being more "difficult" in the Anglosphere, the reasons why such a great %age of women here are so fucked up by age 25 let alone 30... are many and various. As supposed seducers of women, it might be said it is our "job" to pinpoint these reasons exactly and solve them all to our own ends. Unless you're the one in a million who does change the world, pretty much all of us cannot change the current social conditions. There are many "problems" with no real solutions. It actually gets to the point where the best way to "solve" the Anglo girl problem is to actually not even try to solve it at all, to instead choose a path with girls who can give you what you want and need both physically and emotionally, wherever they may be (every man is different).
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12-01-2015, 02:06 AM
As you grow older you develop a discriminating taste for food, wine, cigars, art, music and...women.
American women are like overpriced, poorly made wine.
120% fruit, no terroir, no subtlety, no class.
They get terrible reviews in Wine Spectator yet when you see them on the shelf you think because they're expensive and come from America they must be good.
Then you go to Europe or Asia and develop your palate.
You start to understand the difference between real food and junk food, real wine and crap wine.
So naturally when you come back to the states and have to drink vinegar every day it's a shock to the system.
I saw a good lucking Russian guy hitting on an uptalking, vapid American chick the other day.
I had spoken to her about something completely neutral and I think my Ruski homeboy moved in thinking that he needed to seize the opportunity before I got her.
I couldn't help but chuckle to myself and think "lol...she's all yours bro" and then booty called one of my Thai squirters.
Just like some people can't see why a rare, Australian tenderloin is superior to a McDonalds hamburger, likewise some people just have no taste in women.
It's a collective degeneration of the artistic sense where people believe that a pop track is somehow on par with a Dvorak symphony.
This is one of the indications of a society on the decline: "all art is equal; all music is equally good; all wine is equally palatable".
Well, no the fuck it ain't.