Quote: (10-18-2015 06:35 PM)Ocelot Wrote:
Quote: (10-18-2015 01:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Do you really want a world that is only one culture? And, if so, which culture would you choose?
Serious questions.. Thanks
Quite the opposite - it's by dissolving all the things that separate cultures that you, by degrees, make them indistinguishable from each other. It's precisely because I love other cultures that I would see them preserved. It would be a sad day if Japan decided to let in 30 million Western Europeans.
That's not to say that tourism, controlled immigration and even a few "melting-pot" cities can't be good things, but the primary purpose when evaluating them should be the benefit of the natural and naturalised citizens. A nations obligation to people outside this group should be as far removed as a parents obligation is to random children on the street compared with their own children.
The real reason this is so important goes far beyond preserving the "vibrance" of different cultures: multiculturalism, like the destruction of the family unit, is by its very nature part of a sinister trend since the start of the industrial revolution to destroy every institution that exists between the individual and the state. That's why it has a tendency to divide people so precisely along left-right lines in politics.
This is spot on.
Lets take it a step further and imagine the world as a food court(simplistic, I know, but bare with me). Fifty years ago you could go to the food court and have 150+ options of diverse, rich, and unique options that all stemmed from origins with deep roots. There was so many options and they were so different from one another. It made the world beautiful for the open minded person. You could experience so much as along as you were willing to be tolerant and EMBRACE ANOTHER CULTURE on THEIR TERMS. They defined what made "them" them. Two "restaurants" right next to each other could be so vastly different yet so simultaneously enriching to anyone that cared to put the effort in. Germany and France signify this. What amazing cultures and people yet so vastly different.
Now, we have a movement that wants to get rid of these 150+ options and condense them into one. If successful, we are left 150 store front but at best one or two menu's. What a lifeless, tasteless, and unremarkable food court we are left with.
And why do the owners of the food court want this? To cull options, making everything the same and ensuring that patrons become so used to a limited menu that they never ask for more. They can save on costs by enhancing economies of scale and have more "power". All that has to be sacrificed is everything that made the food court special to begin with.
For my soccer fans here, its analogous to the showing up at the world cup and having every player, style of play, team sing along, and celebration be the same. "Oh you sang the same song as me, mate" "Yeah but I support Team 3 from Unit 4" "Oh, I heard Unit 4 is a great place to visit" Yeah, its great, very similar to unit 1,2,3,5,6, &7" That sucks, there is no compelling reason to be interested.
I don't believe anyone in their right mind is an advocate for completely ethnic homogeneous populations. Hell, my best friends dad who grew up in Iran, was a very influential figure in my life and I am glad that I got to have such a strong, demanding person in my life. However, the reason he was let into this country is because he is intelligent, adds value, and shared american values/ideals. He owns a multi million dollar business and is a true american success story. We want more of this and to work, it must be on a limited scale.
Just like pussy, that which is gained for free isn't valued. The migrants don't value the opportunity they are afforded, they just value the free western altruism and welfare while demanding their culture is respected above all else.
What we don't want is to sacrifice culture solely to be tolerant and accepting while allowing others to export their shit and dull life for everyone. We want 150+ unique store fronts not 150 store fronts selling the same malaise.