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10-14-2015, 01:08 AM
I think she's going to aim for what she thinks is unbiased coverage, because she strikes me as an idealistic journalist trying to shed light on an underdog movement, and losers like Paul Elam may even like it, but the end result is going to be nauseating to any rvfer. Journalists always fuck up plenty whenever you consult anybody who knows anything and this situation will be no different.
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10-14-2015, 01:58 AM
Personally I think this "documentary" illustrates a wider point: there is unlikely to be a single moment or single media release which brings the manosphere into the mainstream. It is going to take a generation of quiet work to change things in the West, combined with some periods of extreme financial or economic hardship during which it will become apparent that luxury, disturbed viewpoints like fourth wave feminism are not sustainable - look up the ROK article about the fate of the flappers about this.
The manosphere in one sense has been a little like Gamergate. While Roosh is an obvious target of late, and there are prominent voices in it, the movement as a whole is generally decentralised. It doesn't have one figurehead or one diktat telling men exactly what to do or what to believe. Better yet, you can't kill it by taking down one website or even blocking its voice on a corpulent website like Reddit.
That's the great disadvantage feminism now suffers. It is, basically, the institution. It is the Establishment. It tries to convert, church-like, through a series of official pronouncements and daily sermons delivered through the MSM. Its problem being, throughout every generation since roughly 1930 or so, the young have rebelled against the establishment or distrusted what it has to say. We have also been ably assisted by feminism own-goals, too: in its hellbent desire to turn gender into a sexless desert, it's also managed to remove any societal impulse or expectation on men to partner up with women for life or indeed to have children. This is an own-goal for feminism because, whether women like it or not, they can't compete with men physically or mentally, and there is a rising question among men today: what exactly does a woman in my life on a continuing basis give me? What is my incentive to wife up?
As Malcolm Gladwell reminds us: when it comes to David and Goliath battles, David wins when he refuses to fight on the opponent's terms, when he dictates the pace of battle, when he doesn't "fight fair". The MSM is feminism's. No real problem. People, and men in particular, are turning away from the MSM for their information. They recognise the sad truth: that the media as a whole has descended to a daily sensationalist scrabble for something that bathes the female amydgala in a dose of sweet or sour for more than five minutes.
The manosphere has succeeded because it's fought a guerrilla war: it has slowly collected men by simple and logical presentation of arguments and pointing out the spin and lies feminism relies on for some of its shibboleths. It does its work quietly and thoroughly, by sites like this, and -- to a lesser extent -- by guys like Roosh opting to go in harm's way into cesspits like Toronto.
Even if The Red Pill The Movie turns out to be a hatchet job, it won't change the result. Gamergate alone proves that the cultural shift is on the way. If Trump wins the Presidency -- again a guy who does not fight on his opponents' terms and is crushing it as a result -- it'll be apparent.
That said, do not confuse this with a likelihood that radical feminism will go down without a fight. The historical record tells us that all totalitarian movements in history do not give up their grip on power without a lot of blood being shed and without trying to tear down the whole place as they fall.
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10-14-2015, 04:44 AM
Frankly I don't think the best thing to come out of docos like this will be a change in societal values towards addressing men's issues.
What I think will happen though is creating greater awareness of the hypocrisy of feminism. Feminists are too mired in their ideology and lack the empathy to understand how men will view arguments like 'Yes men may suicide much more than women, but that isn't a real issue like sexual harrassment'.
Even the most indoctrinated young man who lives and breathes progressivism will take pause at blatant examples of 'equality' being thrown out in the face of gynocentric advantage as long as its dumbed down enough.
So society won't change, but docos like this might push more guys into their own personal epiphanies.
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10-14-2015, 05:05 AM
I'm still skeptical about the editing. Any documentary kick starter will be unbiased to pool as much money from as many sources as possible.
If I was to guess: The finished product will have attempted to give an 'unbiased viewpoint' by including red pill truths but they will be selectively picked apart by 'popular' and irrational feminist thought.
Having had some involvement in the film industry - Presenting a negative feminist dialogue is more or less career suicide.
I will be very pleasantly surprised if this gets pulled off in a truly impartial light.
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10-15-2015, 12:29 PM
I'm skeptical about this film but I think it will be 'good' publicity for the MRMs no matter how this shakes out. I think her take-away, biased slant will be a more palatable version of "men need more feminism".
No way I'm going to contribute financially to this piece but I predict she'll push forward despite not reaching her goal of 100k.
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10-18-2015, 04:33 PM
Let's examine what will happen. If it's a fair representation of the movement, in which case it gets buried and no one will ever learn of it. At best there's a few mentions in a back channel Youtube alt media outlet. Or it does turn out to be a yellow hack piece, in which case it will get all the publicity the filmmaker wants.
There is no scenario in which we come out as the winner, so from a game theory perspective I would be happy to see it never get made. These people are too predictable.
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10-18-2015, 05:19 PM
As it is, she's not raising money fast enough to meet the 30-day deadline.
$97,000 / 30 days = a bit over $3,200 a day. As of now she's only raised $12,717 over six (~$2,100 per day.)
Early days, still, but it seems that this likely won't be going anywhere.
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10-18-2015, 05:26 PM
Yeah, but. . . .
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10-18-2015, 08:04 PM
There has never been a journalist or filmmaker anywhere, anytime, who has ever been honest.
Anybody "hoping for a balanced perspective" is delusional.
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10-26-2015, 04:07 PM
I have a feeling that she is trolling. Can't believe shit on the Internet.
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10-26-2015, 04:12 PM
If Milo vouches for her, she's probably on the right team. Milo has too much to lose if this turns to be a hit job against Manosphere.
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10-26-2015, 04:31 PM
Why wasn't Roosh invited to take part in this film?
At the very least, a segment on Roosh and everything he went through with his world tour this year is paramount.
Her audience must also be introduced to hypergamy and how western media/culture actively encourages & celebrates when women surrender to hedonistic behaviors and patterns of thought, and finally how feminists reinforce it under the guises of empowerment and independence. She comes close to it in the trailer when they talk about divorce rape and false rape accusations but doesn't actually define it as anything in particular. The sad contradiction of Belle Knox, the shameful fiction of Mattress Girl, and the utter destruction of Rolling Stone's credibility are just a few cases that come to mind.
Edit: Come to think of it, an entire documentary could be made on the matter. 'Hypergamy' should be her next film
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10-26-2015, 04:45 PM
They're triggered because they know we're right.
They're truly afraid of us.
The filmmaker's experiences speak quite a bit about our little movement.
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10-26-2015, 06:44 PM
My opinion does not change. Do not support. The fact she does not have the guts to openly say on her kickstarter page that her opinions changed to question feminist shibboleths is a potent indicator of a lack of fearlessness in the documentary as well.
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10-26-2015, 07:19 PM
Jaye doubled her funding in one day. Milo must have a hell of an audience.
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10-27-2015, 05:15 AM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this, but MikeCF is backing every donation up to ten grand.
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2015/10/27/...ou-to-see/
That might explain some of the increased funding.
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10-27-2015, 05:44 AM
Could it be possible that she concealed the result of her questioning feminist beliefs in an effort to make funding it more palatable to the blue-pill masses?
Or maybe she just doesn't want to reveal the ending of the movie?
Or is she trolling the manosphere?
I honestly don't pretend to know the answers to the questions above. But with Milo and MikeCF backing it, perhaps there is something to it. At the least, those guys do a pretty good job trolling feminists!
EDIT: I pledged $25 (which only gets collected if it gets fully funded). Call it a leap of faith, on the backs of Milo and MikeCF.
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10-27-2015, 10:48 AM
No, we do not need to experience some reformed feminist's "journey of self-actualization" as she realizes that most of her ideas are based on bullshit.
I do not wish to see some doe-eyed minx smile at the camera and tell us what we already know.
This documentary to me looks like nothing but female attention-whoring in stealth form. It's disguised as some sort of sympathy piece for men--as if men need her pity--but the reality is that this is just a rancid attempt to make a buck off the mood of the times.
We don't permit women to define our struggles for us. We tell them ourselves.
We don't prostitute ourselves for the pity or sympathy of attention-whores. And we absolutely should not be collaborating with them or hyping their projects.
Only by taking this uncompromising stance will anything of value ever be achieved. The revolt must come from within, from us. Not from them. The only way forward is through the sweat of our own brows, and the honest heart imbued with zeal.
There is no other way.
Achievement comes through struggle. Our own struggle. Women do not speak for us, and to help empower her megaphone is making the same mistake that men have been making for decades.
No compromise, no collaboration. Permitting the message to be filtered through a female lens guarantees its conformity to the existing doctrinal requirements.
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10-27-2015, 10:53 AM
That woman is attractive and that is why she is sympathetic to the cause. Attractive girls are generally more sympathetic to men's pain because no one is mean to them growing up (except other girls). She identified as feminist because in college and early in post college life that was what girls like her did. She is not a slut walk, consent obsessed, gender queer angry at the world feminist because attractive desirable men have been her boyfriend her whole life, she has been cute since she was 11 and everybody told her so, and everybody has always been kind. That chick has a boyfriend, has always had a boyfriend and has had no cruel realities (until now with her funding, and she is about to get over on that) like an ugly fat tattooed up feminist has to deal with daily(like being ugly and "changing" beauty standards, healthy at any size). Life on easy mode makes a kind woman.
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