[WalterBlack]

It was only a matter of time before this happened somewhere:

East Yorkshire mother jailed after son drowns in garden pond

Quote:

A mother has been jailed for five years after her toddler son drowned in a garden pond while she chatted on Facebook.

Claire Barnett, 31, pleaded guilty to four charges of neglect at Hull Crown Court.

The court heard Barnett was using the site instead of supervising Joshua, two, who was playing in the back garden of the family home.

He was pulled unconscious from the pond and died later in hospital.

The incident happened at the family's home on Ferry Lane, Woodmansey, East Yorkshire on 17 March last year.

Prosecuting lawyer Peter Moulson, QC, said it was not known how long Joshua had been in the ornamental pond when his mother rescued him.

"It may have been as short as 20 seconds," he said.

"There was evidence the defendant had been on a mobile telephone in the lounge on Facebook when Joshua was at the pond.

"The danger present of this neglect was obvious."

The court heard that Barnett administered first aid to her son while waiting for an ambulance to arrive.

Defence barrister Timothy Roberts, QC, said Barnett had been getting ready to take the family's dog for a walk.

"She became distracted by a Facebook comment that was posted to her rather than the other way around," he said.

"Any mother going about the house can be distracted by a telephone or a washing machine."

Passing sentence, Judge Jeremy Richardson QC said Barnett's "lamentably appalling parenting led to fatal consequences".

He added: "If you should have any further children, they will almost certainly be removed from you.

"You pose very serious risks to any child for whom you have responsibility."

[TonySandos]

Hopefully the husband has some sense and removes himself from her also.

[Dan Woolf]

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[Feldeinsamkeit]

(10-09-2015 01:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

It was only a matter of time before this happened somewhere:

East Yorkshire mother jailed after son drowns in garden pond

Quote:

A mother has been jailed for five years after her toddler son drowned in a garden pond while she chatted on Facebook.

Claire Barnett, 31, pleaded guilty to four charges of neglect at Hull Crown Court.

The court heard Barnett was using the site instead of supervising Joshua, two, who was playing in the back garden of the family home.

He was pulled unconscious from the pond and died later in hospital.

The incident happened at the family's home on Ferry Lane, Woodmansey, East Yorkshire on 17 March last year.

Prosecuting lawyer Peter Moulson, QC, said it was not known how long Joshua had been in the ornamental pond when his mother rescued him.

"It may have been as short as 20 seconds," he said.

"There was evidence the defendant had been on a mobile telephone in the lounge on Facebook when Joshua was at the pond.

"The danger present of this neglect was obvious."

The court heard that Barnett administered first aid to her son while waiting for an ambulance to arrive.

Defence barrister Timothy Roberts, QC, said Barnett had been getting ready to take the family's dog for a walk.

"She became distracted by a Facebook comment that was posted to her rather than the other way around," he said.

"Any mother going about the house can be distracted by a telephone or a washing machine."

Passing sentence, Judge Jeremy Richardson QC said Barnett's "lamentably appalling parenting led to fatal consequences".

He added: "If you should have any further children, they will almost certainly be removed from you.

"You pose very serious risks to any child for whom you have responsibility."

I live not far from where this woman is from in the north east of England and I can say that most women in my area are exactly like her - glued to their smartphones oblivious to whatever is going on around them whilst they have their beta bitch of a boyfriend take care of the child for them. Although it's a tragic story to read, it's heartening to see that somebody in the British justice system is forcing this woman to take at least some responsibility for her actions through sending down her for a stint in the scrubs. But it's a sad indictment of the culture in the Anglosphere that a child first has to dire before women start to be held to account.

[eljeffster]

As easy as it is to hate on this mother, I have a different take on the story. This may very well be a case where punishment is warranted, but it may also be a case of "just an accident". In today's world there is far too much Government intervention into the lives of parents in some Western countries (definitely the United States, and apparently the U.K.) Accidents, even deadly accidents happen to children. Not every child is meant to live to adulthood.

In the not so distant past my childhood was spent running around with the neighborhood kids in the woods when I was four and five years old. One kid fell out of a tree, another got tangled up in barbed wire, another stepped into a fire aunt hill, a few fights happened with punches to the face. . . and one of those kids was me.

Contrast that to today's uber-safety coddled society and ask yourself whether the certain accidents, and sometimes deadly ones are to much to pay for millions of children having a childhood.

I also note that the two year old in my day would have had other kids around to keep him out of the pond or pull him out first thing if he fell in. When we were a group of kids, we took responsibility and care for each other, especially the young ones.

This parent should most likely get punished, but it shouldn't be an excuse for more government control of how parents raise their children.

[WalterBlack]

(10-09-2015 06:28 PM)eljeffster Wrote:  

As easy as it is to hate on this mother, I have a different take on the story. This may very well be a case where punishment is warranted, but it may also be a case of "just an accident". In today's world there is far too much Government intervention into the lives of parents in some Western countries (definitely the United States, and apparently the U.K.) Accidents, even deadly accidents happen to children. Not every child is meant to live to adulthood.

In the not so distant past my childhood was spent running around with the neighborhood kids in the woods when I was four and five years old. One kid fell out of a tree, another got tangled up in barbed wire, another stepped into a fire aunt hill, a few fights happened with punches to the face. . . and one of those kids was me.

Contrast that to today's uber-safety coddled society and ask yourself whether the certain accidents, and sometimes deadly ones are to much to pay for millions of children having a childhood.

I also note that the two year old in my day would have had other kids around to keep him out of the pond or pull him out first thing if he fell in. When we were a group of kids, we took responsibility and care for each other, especially the young ones.

This parent should most likely get punished, but it shouldn't be an excuse for more government control of how parents raise their children.

Not the same situation – a 4-5 year old is a lot more clued up than a 2 year old when it comes to ponds and water. Also, the kid was alone.

I don’t see how this case has anything to do with government getting involved in how people raise their kids.

The mother fucked up…you can’t let a 2 year old run around on its own anywhere near a pond or pool unsupervised. This death was easily avoidable.

[kaotic]

(10-09-2015 01:57 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

It was only a matter of time before this happened somewhere:

East Yorkshire mother jailed after son drowns in garden pond

(10-09-2015 02:15 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

[Akula]

Fuck I don't know. A child can drown very fast...it's one of the scariest parts of being a parent that they worry about. She could have just as easily been downstairs for a minute to get the baby forumula, or out front getting the mail, or whatever....just takes a few seconds or a minute to fuck up with a kid like this (unfortunately). Seems like she incriminated herself probably due to being so upset about her tragic & stupid mistake.

UK seems to be an ever-overreaching police state that deals harshly with this kind of stuff yet turns a blind eye to illegal & mass immigration and the issues that come of it, petty crime, etc. And they bend over backwards to welcome any old corrupt millionaire who's stolen untold billions from their Arab, African, Asian nation to buy a house there. But jail this woman in a heartbeat. This could just as easily be another way to add to "the State /gay parents need to start raising kids because normal biological families can't" storyline as anything else.

What a corrupt piece of shit modern "democracy" really is!!!

[Captainstabbin]

(10-09-2015 06:28 PM)eljeffster Wrote:  

As easy as it is to hate on this mother, I have a different take on the story. This may very well be a case where punishment is warranted, but it may also be a case of "just an accident". In today's world there is far too much Government intervention into the lives of parents in some Western countries (definitely the United States, and apparently the U.K.) Accidents, even deadly accidents happen to children. Not every child is meant to live to adulthood.

In the not so distant past my childhood was spent running around with the neighborhood kids in the woods when I was four and five years old. One kid fell out of a tree, another got tangled up in barbed wire, another stepped into a fire aunt hill, a few fights happened with punches to the face. . . and one of those kids was me.

Contrast that to today's uber-safety coddled society and ask yourself whether the certain accidents, and sometimes deadly ones are to much to pay for millions of children having a childhood.

I also note that the two year old in my day would have had other kids around to keep him out of the pond or pull him out first thing if he fell in. When we were a group of kids, we took responsibility and care for each other, especially the young ones.

This parent should most likely get punished, but it shouldn't be an excuse for more government control of how parents raise their children.

Exactly, when I was 2 I played with my brother and his friends (4-7) and accidents happened all the time but we learned how to take care of ourselves and each other. This was a tragedy but not necessarily neglect.

Being on Facebook is incidental, she could have been cooking or vacuuming and had the same thing happen.

[eljeffster]

(10-09-2015 06:37 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:28 PM)eljeffster Wrote:  

This parent should most likely get punished, but it shouldn't be an excuse for more government control of how parents raise their children.

Not the same situation – a 4-5 year old is a lot more clued up than a 2 year old when it comes to ponds and water. Also, the kid was alone.

I don’t see how this case has anything to do with government getting involved in how people raise their kids.

The mother fucked up…you can’t let a 2 year old run around on its own anywhere near a pond or pool unsupervised. This death was easily avoidable.

Your point is rational, the irrational mob/government is likely calling for "stricter rules" and "more involvement" for all parents to an isolated case.

As to your other points, the child was in the backyard of his own home and it doesn't detail what the pond was like, but yes two is generally to young to be unsupervised near water.

When society allowed kids to be more independent (like my childhood) the kid would have been with siblings or the neighborhood kids which would have been sufficient. I may have been 4-5 but there were both younger and slightly older kids.

[Sombro]

Do Darwin Awards still apply even when it's an innocent 2-year old who suffers for the idiocy of the irresponsible parent who shouldn't have reproduced in the first place?

Maybe we need a new award.

[Tigre]

I'm not convinced it's justified that any future child could be taken from her custody.

She's already going to be jailed for several years for criminal neglect. Her child died in infancy. Her marriage may not survive the trauma of it all and the incarceration.

My gut feeling is when she comes out of jail, she will have learned her lesson. If she was to become a parent again, she would be hyper-vigilant.

But if we take the sentencing judge at his word - she won't be able to raise children in the future either. If she wants to become a parent, her only option is to leave the country for a couple of decades and start a new life beyond the reach of her nation's government.

Without knowing all the circumstances and evidence that was brought, I'm wondering if that may be an overreach by the judge.

[Hannibal]

She looks like a real winner.

[Alsos]

"Maybe we need a new award."

Darwin By Proxy: The failure of a parent results in their child's death and thereby dooms their line to extinction.

[aphelion]

The way this article is written, it makes it sound like she was sending emojis while the tyke was screaming for help. Probably not the case really.

It's a horrible situation and I feel bad for her loss. Wish it didn't happen and she probably does too.

[Bacchus]

Female priorities in the 21st century:

1) Attention

2) Drama

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10,284) Survival of her progeny