Quote: (07-20-2015 01:32 PM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:
I personally read many tweets of "all lives matter" that were making the point that cops were justified in the killing because they were afraid for their lives. Therefore "all lives matter" and the related "cops lives matter". While not all of the proponents of AllLivesMatter take this view, it is a sizable portion.
I didn't phrase it to be divisive and inflammatory, it's just the plain telling of what happened. Unarmed black man dies by cop, people say it was justified. I didn't mean that to say that they "want to see cops killing unarmed black people", but when the cops do, they support them. They believe that the cops are acting justly and protecting their lives and the lives of the peaceful citizenry.
If we want to get technical about it I shouldn't have said "it has been co-opted by people who support the police in their killing of unarmed black people."
But should have said "it has been co-opted by people who support the police when they killed unarmed black people."
This is another form of dogmatism. It is not a priori known whether the police officer was wrong or not. What matters are the facts of each individual case. Supporting cops during these incidents doesn't necessarily mean you support the killing, often it means supporting them in the face of a liberal media that absolutely loves to jump to conclusions in anything regarding black/white relations and where the black person is automatically regarded as a victim.
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I agree both livesmatter campaigns to be red herrings. They are silly and lead to something as retarded as booing the phrase "All Lives Matter." While I believe there are race issues in this country, I don't think the SJW's or liberals are doing a single useful thing to address it and make it better. They are just making it a divisive campaign issue instead of fixing the problems.
I just posted to point out AllLivesMatter would get booed in that crowd because it's the catchphrase of the opposition. Not because they don't agree with the sentiment. Under either interpretation of AllLivesMatter it's politically stupid to say that in a group full of people who embrace identity politics and don't think the cops were justified in these sensationalized cases.
Yes, what matters is changes in policy (eg, the "War" on Drugs), not identity. To address race issues you need to address the things that produce the disparities, not bitch and moan SJW style which just causes division and distrust.