[Kristoph]

Call me crazy but I always thought there was something kind of sexy about her, even her 2D vacant awkward personality. I banged a girl once just because she reminded me of her, with her monotone and vapid dead eyed disposition and skinny frame.

I used to think Stewart was hotter than I do now, but she's still a pretty attractive girl underneath the androgyny.





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Maybe it's just me. Granted, I wouldn't wanna spend any time in her company with clothes on.

[eljeffster]

Look at this scene from "Iron Cowboy" (No homo)

Burt Reynolds doing his manly shit shirtless with a chest full of hair. Woman doing her woman's work.

This was in the late 1960's. Then we eventually got into that whole Metro-Sexual thing where all men are now expected to shave their chest hair. Then hipsters and gay men decided that beards were "ironically" cool (but still want to shave all chest hair.)

So now chest hair is often seen as a turn off and having a beard makes you hipster or gay.

Hollywood is now full of sexually ambiguous stars promoting a sexually ambiguous reality.

PS We would have heavy rainstorms where I was as a child and always had really cool rainbows afterwards. Now I can't even say the word "rainbow" without the thought getting spoiled by its gay reference. Thanks for spoiling my childhood.

[samsamsam]

(06-15-2015 12:49 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 12:41 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Amazing. Miley Cyrus. Kristen Stewart. Justin Bieber look like identical male triplets. (I know that's a pic of Bieber but the above street walk of Kristen still looks like Bieber.)

Chicken or the egg. Did Cyrus and Stewart copy Bieber or did Bieber copy them?

Who knows, but it looks like a race to look as asexual or gender neutral as possible.

This is all the start of an alien invasion - capturing the ones who are thought, I mean entertainment leaders.

[Eskhander]

The haircut gave it away, let's face it

[Snowplow]

(06-15-2015 01:15 PM)Kristoph Wrote:  

I love when bitches give you that look.

[MrXY]

(06-15-2015 07:29 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I learned in an evolutionary sexuality course that women don't necessarily have a sexual orientation. I forget the details, but this plasticity has been adaptive.

I's a complicated mechanism, and although 95% of women would identify themselves as straight, many of them will attempt or consider something with their own sex at some point.

Not surprising news for most of us. I've seen plenty of chicks makeout with each other and of course there are threesomes happening every so often.

I think you can often tell that a man has not a lot of experience with women if he reacts with shock and surprise that a particular girl has had sex with girls, sees girls kissing, etc. Men who have dated a lot of women know how much secretive sex goes on between them.

Just from my own recent experience:

The hot girl I banged two nights ago for the second time told me that she has hooked up with girls many times and is currently "dating" a girl she sees fairly often.

One of my current harem members has had sex with women on occasion and kissed them much more often and says she "loves kissing girls."

Another harem member told me that when she watches porn, it's almost always lesbian porn.

A former harem member who I am still friends with actually had a live in lesbian lover after her divorce whom she met at work. Said she never would again though because women are too crazy.

A married fuck buddy told me she's never done it with a girl but fantasizes about it sometimes and would like to try it.

A girl I dated for several months a couple of years ago had a toy chest which included strap ons she used on girls.

Another girl I dated around the same time was a cute little blonde. One day she wanted to show me a pic on her phone and I noticed a she scrolled through the gallery that she had a bunch of lesbian porns in there.

I could go on with this but you get the point-it's extremely common to the point I consider it to be really just normal female sexuality. All the women I mentioned are middle class professional types, not any sort of freaky alternative or damaged girls.

I think the average beta guy really has no idea about this because he never gets intimate with enough women to have them admit this. Also, almost all these women identify as straight; a girl who calls herself bi is really just doing it for the attention. I've found that women will readily discuss this with you if present yourself as a cool, sexual man who is nonjudgemental. They don't feel guilty about having had sex women at all, but they don't want to have a man shame them about it or spread gossip.

I agree with the evolutionary theory; I think it has to do with reinforcing female bonds within small social groups. The offspring of a woman who has several close female friends/lovers is much more likely to survive due to the mutual assistance they provide each other than the offspring of a woman who is not popular and has not cultivated those emotional bonds.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-15-2015 03:21 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 07:29 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I learned in an evolutionary sexuality course that women don't necessarily have a sexual orientation. I forget the details, but this plasticity has been adaptive.

I's a complicated mechanism, and although 95% of women would identify themselves as straight, many of them will attempt or consider something with their own sex at some point.

Not surprising news for most of us. I've seen plenty of chicks makeout with each other and of course there are threesomes happening every so often.

I think you can often tell that a man has not a lot of experience with women if he reacts with shock and surprise that a particular girl has had sex with girls, sees girls kissing, etc. Men who have dated a lot of women know how much secretive sex goes on between them.

Just from my own recent experience:

The hot girl I banged two nights ago for the second time told me that she has hooked up with girls many times and is currently "dating" a girl she sees fairly often.

One of my current harem members has had sex with women on occasion and kissed them much more often and says she "loves kissing girls."

Another harem member told me that when she watches porn, it's almost always lesbian porn.

A former harem member who I am still friends with actually had a live in lesbian lover after her divorce whom she met at work. Said she never would again though because women are too crazy.

A married fuck buddy told me she's never done it with a girl but fantasizes about it sometimes and would like to try it.

A girl I dated for several months a couple of years ago had a toy chest which included strap ons she used on girls.

Another girl I dated around the same time was a cute little blonde. One day she wanted to show me a pic on her phone and I noticed a she scrolled through the gallery that she had a bunch of lesbian porns in there.

I could go on with this but you get the point-it's extremely common to the point I consider it to be really just normal female sexuality. All the women I mentioned are middle class professional types, not any sort of freaky alternative or damaged girls.

I think the average beta guy really has no idea about this because he never gets intimate with enough women to have them admit this. Also, almost all these women identify as straight; a girl who calls herself bi is really just doing it for the attention. I've found that women will readily discuss this with you if present yourself as a cool, sexual man who is nonjudgemental. They don't feel guilty about having had sex women at all, but they don't want to have a man shame them about it or spread gossip.

I agree with the evolutionary theory; I think it has to do with reinforcing female bonds within small social groups. The offspring of a woman who has several close female friends/lovers is much more likely to survive due to the mutual assistance they provide each other than the offspring of a woman who is not popular and has not cultivated those emotional bonds.

"I think it has to do with reinforcing female bonds within small social groups."

I think it has to do with women robotically copying everything Hollywood tells them to do, from buying certain handbags, to having a "gay bestie," to participating in lesbian hook-ups.

How old are these girls you speak of? I ask because this seems a generational thing. Back in my day, before Hollywood openly promoted all things gay, women rarely did this.

I spoke to enough women between the ages of 16-26 during the late 1980s and mid-1990s to know what they did do and it wasn't hooking up with their friends. The only woman I know who was into this went to an all-girls college (Goucher University), where that was par the course. It did not have a positive effect on her, to put it mildly.

This is why I think mass media is so damaging to women. It pushes them into behaviors that can have profound effects on their lives later on. We already know multiple partners in women increases the risk of divorce. My guess is that multiple partners with multiple genders send that risk through the roof.

Enjoy the stories of girls hooking up with other girls when you're young. But don't be surprised if those same girls turn your life upside down when they're supposedly "mature" wives and mothers.

All this is why, I think, what Kristen Stewart and stars like her do is relevant to our lives. We deal with the ripple effects of their behavior and the media's celebration of it.

[MrXY]

I disagree that the media or the Cultural Marxists are causing this behavior. Exacerbating it somewhat yes, and making it more open, definitely, but not creating it.

The woman I mentioned ranged from 27 to 45, mostly mid 30's to early 40's. So their formative years were before the media push of the last few years to make lesbianism trendy.I recall stories from college in the 80's about sorority sisters and dormmates getting it on. My roommate had a female friend who found out after she went off to college that her three best friends in high school sometimes had sleepovers to which she was not invited which turned into lesbian threesomes. And so on.

Women's sexuality is on a spectrum much more so than men's, and in the right context a large percentage of them will act on it to some degree.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I think she fucked so many producers, directors and money men above that she is all fucked up. She tests out the lesbian thing thinking that women are the better human beings - maybe it's even a PR stunt. Johnny Depp's girlfriend Amber Heard did it too for years. I doubt that Johnny Depp would actually date a real lesbian.

If all those actresses were not spending so much time on casting couches and coke-orgies with Hollywood big-shots, then they would not have to start fake dating a lesbian.

[KorbenDallas]

I think Days of Broken arrows and MrXy might both be right. I've been with girls in the states who have absolutely no interest in kissing another girl or whatever and been with a girl abroad who never watched Tv, could speak just ok english, and liked to kiss her best friend and do threesomes with her.

Maybe 80s culture in America at Days time women simply didn't do this, or the "herd" was strongly against it. I don't know.

In my experience, girls are very sexually active unless they are an exception for some reason. And that sexual activity includes other girls. And even the exceptions eventually have a bunch of sex once they finally lose their virginity when they hit 19 or 20.

[Kieran]

Kristen Stewart has always looked like a lesbian / bisexual - can't say I'm surprised to hear this at all. I watched that film where she is PA to some actress, and another where her mother has Alzheimer's, and it was pretty obvious.

[iknowexactly]

(06-15-2015 11:22 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 06:25 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

It's a completely staged shot which means 100% of the leaked info is publicity shit.

Look at the coffee shop branding strategically concealed.

I'm not disputing this but how does the motivation for that concealment work?

[CactusCat589]

I don't really get it either. I don't know why knowing she is a lesbian is supposed to make me buy tickets to her movies. As long as the top directors continue not casting her and she stays out of the movies I have high expectations for, she can be gay till the cows come home.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-16-2015 04:39 AM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

I don't really get it either. I don't know why knowing she is a lesbian is supposed to make me buy tickets to her movies. As long as the top directors continue not casting her and she stays out of the movies I have high expectations for, she can be gay till the cows come home.

Being lesbian cuts down roles for women tremendously. Both women and men stop wanting to see an actress in romantic roles - the main bread and butter for Hollywood girls in their 20s and 30s. I guess that's why Anne Heche became heterosexual again some time ago.

[realologist]

(06-15-2015 03:21 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(06-15-2015 07:29 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I learned in an evolutionary sexuality course that women don't necessarily have a sexual orientation. I forget the details, but this plasticity has been adaptive.

I's a complicated mechanism, and although 95% of women would identify themselves as straight, many of them will attempt or consider something with their own sex at some point.

Not surprising news for most of us. I've seen plenty of chicks makeout with each other and of course there are threesomes happening every so often.

I think you can often tell that a man has not a lot of experience with women if he reacts with shock and surprise that a particular girl has had sex with girls, sees girls kissing, etc. Men who have dated a lot of women know how much secretive sex goes on between them.

Just from my own recent experience:

The hot girl I banged two nights ago for the second time told me that she has hooked up with girls many times and is currently "dating" a girl she sees fairly often.

One of my current harem members has had sex with women on occasion and kissed them much more often and says she "loves kissing girls."

Another harem member told me that when she watches porn, it's almost always lesbian porn.

A former harem member who I am still friends with actually had a live in lesbian lover after her divorce whom she met at work. Said she never would again though because women are too crazy.

A married fuck buddy told me she's never done it with a girl but fantasizes about it sometimes and would like to try it.

A girl I dated for several months a couple of years ago had a toy chest which included strap ons she used on girls.

Another girl I dated around the same time was a cute little blonde. One day she wanted to show me a pic on her phone and I noticed a she scrolled through the gallery that she had a bunch of lesbian porns in there.

I could go on with this but you get the point-it's extremely common to the point I consider it to be really just normal female sexuality. All the women I mentioned are middle class professional types, not any sort of freaky alternative or damaged girls.

I think the average beta guy really has no idea about this because he never gets intimate with enough women to have them admit this. Also, almost all these women identify as straight; a girl who calls herself bi is really just doing it for the attention. I've found that women will readily discuss this with you if present yourself as a cool, sexual man who is nonjudgemental. They don't feel guilty about having had sex women at all, but they don't want to have a man shame them about it or spread gossip.

I agree with the evolutionary theory; I think it has to do with reinforcing female bonds within small social groups. The offspring of a woman who has several close female friends/lovers is much more likely to survive due to the mutual assistance they provide each other than the offspring of a woman who is not popular and has not cultivated those emotional bonds.

Your post is exactly what I've noticed too. That's why I think when trying to get a threesome with the girl you should plant the seed about it being her friend. She has already had a sexual act with her or thought about it before.

They have a bond and the sexual act will only strengthen it and you get a threesome out of it. I outlined in this post.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-47554.html

[zombiejimmorrison]

Australian statistics sourced from studies, show that homosexuality has gone up among all sexes. This is a country that already accepted gays and parades 10 years ago. A tiny increase for men. The jump in female bisexuality and lesbianism is telling though, 10 years ago it wasn't trendy, now that it is the hamster is doing its best to fit in.

Quote:

2003
The then largest and most thorough survey in Australia was conducted by telephone interview with 19,307 respondents between the ages of 16 and 59 in 2001/2002. The study found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as homosexual and 0.9% as bisexual. For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as lesbian and 1.4% as bisexual. Nevertheless, 8.6% of men and 15.1% of women reported either feelings of attraction to the same gender or some sexual experience with the same gender. Overall, 8.6% of women and 5.9% of men reported some homosexual experience in their lives; these figures fell to 5.7% and 5.0% respectively when non-genital sexual experience was excluded. Half the men and two thirds of the women who had same-sex sexual experience regarded themselves as heterosexual rather than homosexual.

Quote:

2014
An update on the above study; it employs the same methodology, has a larger sample (20,055 respondents), and a broader respondent age range (16-69). The study found that 96.7% of the entire sample (or 96.9% of the men and 96.5% of the women) identified as heterosexual, a drop from the 2003 findings (97.5%). Homosexuals accounted for 1.9% of the male population and 1.2% of the female population, a non-significant difference between the sexes. Bisexuals accounted for 1.3% of the male population and 2.2% of the female population. Women were significantly more likely than men to identify as bisexual, and less likely to report exclusively other-sex or same-sex attraction and experience. Similarly, more women reported same-sex experience and same-sex attraction. Nine percent of men and 19% of women had some history of same-sex attraction or experience. More women identified as lesbian or bisexual than in 2001–02. Homosexual/gay identity was more common among men with university education and living in cities, and much less common among men with blue-collar jobs. Both male and female bisexuality were more common among respondents under the age of 20. Male bisexuality was also over represented among older men.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-16-2015 07:25 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  

Australian statistics sourced from studies, show that homosexuality has gone up among all sexes. This is a country that already accepted gays and parades 10 years ago. A tiny increase for men. The jump in female bisexuality and lesbianism is telling though, 10 years ago it wasn't trendy, now that it is the hamster is doing its best to fit in.

Quote:

2014
Homosexuals accounted for 1.9% of the male population and 1.2% of the female population, a non-significant difference between the sexes. Bisexuals accounted for 1.3% of the male population and 2.2% of the female population. Women were significantly more likely than men to identify as bisexual, and less likely to report exclusively other-sex or same-sex attraction and experience. Similarly, more women reported same-sex experience and same-sex attraction. Nine percent of men and 19% of women had some history of same-sex attraction or experience.[b]

1.2% vs. 1.9% is a huge difference pointing to other reasons for homosexuality. Interestingly enough almost 50% of homosexuals were sexually molested or abused during childhood. Trauma can turn you gay.

It can do the same for women, but it often makes them more slutty, cold and crazy.

Lots of women like to watch lesbian porn and have lesbian experiences. But I noticed that in traditional countries like Poland it is rather rare and most women have an almost violent reaction to it. Still - I estimate that some 5-10% of women even in such places had same same-sex experiences, but would likely not identify as bisexual. Women are far more likely to enjoy some pussy while being straight than men do.

[Belgrano]

(06-16-2015 07:38 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

1.2% vs. 1.9% is a huge difference pointing to other reasons for homosexuality. Interestingly enough almost 50% of homosexuals were sexually molested or abused during childhood. Trauma can turn you gay.

It can do the same for women, but it often makes them more slutty, cold and crazy.

Concerning Anne Heche, that would support your theory:

Quote:

To say that Heche’s family life lacked joy is putting it mildly.
Heche was sexually abused as a child by her father, Donald, a Baptist minister and church organist.

He was an unsuccessful serial entrepreneur and a closet homosexual who died of Aids in 1983, shortly after revealing his sexuality to his family.

Three months later her brother, Nate, died in a car accident that some have speculated may have been suicide. Her sister Cynthia had died by then of a heart defect. Her sister Susan died of brain cancer in 2006.

[catoblepa]

she should be credited for staying pale. any woman with a complexion lighter than medium brown should avoid sun exposure like the plague.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I'm most interested in the way the media is normalizing/pushing all this. Maybe I should start a new thread, but it seems "Orange is the New Black" is yet another way the media is glorifying lesbianism and "gender fluidity."

I just saw the below meme on a female friend's Facebook page. The woman pictured stars in that show. There is no way that the average woman would have been parroting this stuff twenty years ago.

As with preachers, the media is reshaping people's beliefs, except they're doing it with media, not sermons. Since women are the primary consumers of media (and more likely to believe advertising), it affects them more.

   

[Socrates]

(06-17-2015 09:52 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I'm most interested in the way the media is normalizing/pushing all this. Maybe I should start a new thread, but it seems "Orange is the New Black" is yet another way the media is glorifying lesbianism and "gender fluidity."

Seriously, every single day there is at least one or two articles bubbling up pushing this garbage. Just this morning:

How Stars Like Cara Delevingne, Kristen Stewart, & Miley Cyrus Are Leading the Gender Fluid Movement for Millennials

and

Miley Cyrus brings agender date to amfAR gala

That Miley article ends with

Quote:

Cyrus arrived at the red carpet with photographer, poet and former contestant on Oxygen's "The Glee Project," Tyler Ford. She posted a photo of Ford on Instagram prior to the event saying, "Tyler is a queer, biracial, agender person, whose pronouns are they/them/theirs."

I think I no longer know what "queer" means, for how can one be "agender" and "queer" at the same time? To be queer, don't you have to have a gender to be queer with? Or for? Fuck I'm lost here. There's a pic of them on the red carpet and Tyler is wearing a dress.

I've had a yahoo email address that I've used almost as long as yahoo has been around. It's the garbage one I use to sign up for crap and purchase things etc. Today I am thinking about ditching it once and for all just so I don't have to ever go to the yahoo.com domain ever again.

[Troll King]

^^^

That's the thing that confuses me about this stuff. Why are so many celebrities behind this? Are they just attention whoring? Maybe, but even if that is one of their motivations then there is still the fact that there is a lot of money behind all of this stuff.

I know Hollywood attracts and creates a lot of damaged individuals. I also know that actresses tend to be fucking crazy. I don't know if spending hours upon hours pretending to be someone or something you are not makes them crazy or if crazy people are simply attracted to that type of stuff in much higher numbers.

But either way, how do they get so much wealth. Nothing happens in Hollywood for free. I can see certain actors/actresses getting behind a cause for the publicity or maybe because it affects them personally - like having a family member with a medical condition like autism like Jenny McCarthy - but how do gays and trannies make so much money? These people, gays, lesbians, and trannies, combined make up less than 3 percent of the population but seem to have an incredibly cash flow that puts them in the .01 percent or higher?

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-17-2015 10:42 AM)Socrates Wrote:  

(06-17-2015 09:52 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I'm most interested in the way the media is normalizing/pushing all this. Maybe I should start a new thread, but it seems "Orange is the New Black" is yet another way the media is glorifying lesbianism and "gender fluidity."

Seriously, every single day there is at least one or two articles bubbling up pushing this garbage. Just this morning:

How Stars Like Cara Delevingne, Kristen Stewart, & Miley Cyrus Are Leading the Gender Fluid Movement for Millennials

and

Miley Cyrus brings agender date to amfAR gala

That Miley article ends with

Quote:

Cyrus arrived at the red carpet with photographer, poet and former contestant on Oxygen's "The Glee Project," Tyler Ford. She posted a photo of Ford on Instagram prior to the event saying, "Tyler is a queer, biracial, agender person, whose pronouns are they/them/theirs."

I think I no longer know what "queer" means, for how can one be "agender" and "queer" at the same time? To be queer, don't you have to have a gender to be queer with? Or for? Fuck I'm lost here. There's a pic of them on the red carpet and Tyler is wearing a dress.

I've had a yahoo email address that I've used almost as long as yahoo has been around. It's the garbage one I use to sign up for crap and purchase things etc. Today I am thinking about ditching it once and for all just so I don't have to ever go to the yahoo.com domain ever again.

Yahoo is the worst with this because of their "Shine" section, which is a bullhorn for empty-headed pop feminists.

I have a Yahoo email account for junk too. I also couldn't stand having to go through their main page to get to my email. There is a way to get to email without having to go through the main Yahoo page.

What I did was removed the main Yahoo page from my favorites. Then I logged into email and it pulled up the page where my emails are. Then I added that page specifically as a favorite.

Now, using that favorite, I can log into email without ever having to look at Yahoo's main page.

[Ziltoid]

(06-17-2015 09:52 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

You know what would be an even more compelling sign that you're not straight?
Being attracted to a woman that doesn't look like a man.