[Patriarch]

(08-25-2015 11:47 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Best part of that trailer was the fact they've given back Max's Australian accent.

Spoilers: Max undergoes a sex change in the opening scene. His catchphrase whenever he kills someone becomes "Call me Maxine."

[Paracelsus]

(08-26-2015 12:36 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 11:47 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Best part of that trailer was the fact they've given back Max's Australian accent.

Spoilers: Max undergoes a sex change in the opening scene. His catchphrase whenever he kills someone becomes "Call me Maxine."

[Swooper]

I came into this thread pleasantly surprised by Germanico and Oswaldo's posts about how this is NOT a feminist movie and promptly watched it. It wasn't one of my favorites (thought a lot of the things were just grotesque and I still don't like furiosa one bit) but it was an enjoyable action flick. Max was actually a reasonable strong, silent, 'gets shit done' kinda dude.

[General Stalin]

I gotta say a lot of the blind "Welp, not watching this film then" declarations are absurd in this thread. It was a fantastic action flick hands down and if you abstained from it then you're missing out. Max wasn't the focus of the movie, but his character was the most intriguing and the most dominating. Reminded me a lot of Riddick in Pitch black. While it was a "Riddick" movie, he wasn't exactly the main focus but his character's presence and actions defined the film.

Once again, awesome flick. Hell, even Maddox liked it and he hates everything:

http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cg..._hell_yeah

[MMX2010]

I saw this movie last week. I've never seen any of the other Mad Max movies.

If the water (which is a symbol strongly associated with femininity and womanhood) is presumed to be infinite, then the movie is about the just destruction of a selfish, controlling, power hungry asshole man.

But if the water is presumed to be finite, then the movie is about the tragic unfair destruction of a benevolent alpha male.

[Mage]

I watched this movie a couple weeks ago (for free of course) and I must say that this was really falsely advertised as feminist move. And I admit I believed this misinformation until i saw it and had to change my opinion.

Sure there was a strong female characters there but their power was naturalistic, they didn't ever empower men physically or something like that. Mad Max still played the role of savior without whom the ladies would be lost.

This plot is much less feminist them many other movies where a man kicks ass for sake of some woman with a questionable character. In this movie Mad max fallows his own interests first and and only helps the women because it is mutually beneficial, not because he wants cater to them. Definitely this movie is much less feminist then lets say Mission Impossible II or Expendables or many other action movies who also feature ass kicking women and men who play captain-save-a-hoe in situations when they really shouldn't care about some woman they barely know and should put their mission above that.

So over while this movie is definitely not red pill it is also surely not more feminist then any other contemporary product of Hollywood.

In terms of action this movie is really great, action is almost non stop and even despite that the story and plot doesn't suffer from overabundance of action and the plot is also decent.

Now the question that remains is why and how did this movie was labeled as a feminist movie? Was it incompetence of reviewers? Was it false advertisement move from producers who wanted to get SJW approval while still producing a movie normal people can enjoy? Or was it actually some plot to cause manosphere look paranoid and ridiculous?

[Rush87]

Devils advocate: The man surveyed current society, re-evaluated the market and just made tens of millions of dollars along with reviving his career in the notoriously socialist film industry.

[Hades]

I didn't think it was especially feminist either, and that might be a bad sign.

Maybe we should claim a subversive victory and start blowing up twitter with "Thanks for the half million dollars Warner Bros., if you want us to trash talk the next Mad Max movie into an even bigger blockbuster we'll be happy to take your money."

[AnonymousBosch]

They'll never stop flogging the narrative. It was named as the Best Film of 2015 by the SJW's over at the Onion's AV Club because Feminism!, and I just noticed an article on News.Com about 'The Aussie Box Office Hits of 2015', coupled with a picture of Tom Hardy in this film.

Except it wasn't a hit. What the article actually said was that Mad Max was the Top Australian Made film of the year, (though it's leads weren't Australian, investment was only guaranteed by American involvement, and it was shot in Nambia).

Mad Max is an Australian Icon, but here's what Australian Audiences actually chose to watch this year instead of the film everyone I know who saw it shrugged off dismissively as 'not being very good':

THE AUSTRALIAN BOX OFFICE TOP TEN FOR 2015

1. Jurassic World - $52.9 million
2. Fast and Furious 7 - $43.3 million
3. The Avengers: Age of Ultron - $40.1 million
4. Minions - $32.8 million
5. Inside Out - $31.1 million
6. Pitch Perfect 2 - $28.1 million
7. The Martian - $26.8 million
8. Fifty Shades of Grey - $23.7 million
9. Spectre - $22.4 million
10.Cinderella - $22.2 million

A movie based on a centuries old fairy tale about a pretty girl finding and marrying a handsome, wealthy Prince was far more popular than Mad Max.

A movie about a mediocre girl finding and getting reamed out by a handsome, wealthy 'Prince' was even more popular than that.



I have no bloody idea what Minions is - looks like a cartoon of some sort, but they're the new ubiquitous car decoration for your Aussie Basic Bitch, and seem to have consigned Fragipani Stickers to the dustbin.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I'm very glad to hear that the general public didn't swallow the hook on Mad Max, unlike it sadly did with Star Wars.

[Dr. Howard]

Saw it, thought it was good. I felt like there were some 'hints' of feminism but didn't want to break my tv with the blatant pandering seen elsewhere. The main feeling that I got was "oh, look at the main guy and the war boys...all they want to do is have men in charge and its all gone to shit" vs. "look how far the world has fallen since the old grandma short hair lesbians have started to die off" and "hey super hot bitches, your lives will be better off if you follow the old lesbians than the men"

Was it a dominant theme? No. Was it the best 2 hours of post apocalyptic car chases I have seen in a long time, perhaps ever? YES! I loved how 90% of the movie occurs on vehicles, like some sort of dystopian version of the movie speed.

[Malo]

^ Agreed.

As I was just bitching about the new Star Shit movie in the other thread, I have to say I really loved Mad Max.

Maybe this movie has a feminist agenda and maybe it doesn't.. I really enjoyed the movie, was awesome plain and simple.

[Yurtley]

I finally saw this film a couple weeks back, since a good friend of mine had really liked it.

It's not a bad action film..

But the dialogue is just insulting.
In the first ten minutes we already have the cringiest lines delivered from Immortan Joe's harem and his old hag wife.

"Our sons shall not be warlords!"
"They are not your property!"
"We are not objects!"

I'm sitting there watching this happen thinking, "Okay I get it, they're all strong, tough and independent women in the post apocalypse standing up to the man that's in charge". The man in charge happens to lead a band of men obsessed with painting themselves white, love cars(which makes sense), and believe if they perform well for their leader, that they'll go to Valhalla.
The writers could've made these guys obsessed with painting themselves in mud, they could've included minorities as part of the bad guys, hell they could've made their religion something like Hinduism, or Buddhism. But they deliberately made them all white men who long for Valhalla.

There were certain elements to the film that I thought were awesome too though,

1) When Immortan Joe and friends are chasing Furiosa and friends, they have a vehicle entirely dedicated to making war music. And it wasn't just the standard old war drums, it was a dude playing guitar, and when his vehicle was attacked it changed the score of the film. That was great!

2) Camera work was alright. I found it really jarring at the start of the film, the way that the camera wasn't just shaky but it moved in a very manic way. After awhile I got used to it and even appreciated it more during the later action scenes.

3) The pacing of this film was perfect. There was some downtime, like when they're in the swampy area, and when they find the geriatrics, but a little break in the action doesn't hurt. The fight scenes in general, made me completely forget the crappy dialogue and pull me into what was happening.

Basically, I think there's a good movie buried here. If you can look past the dialogue and some other groan inducing stuff, its a fun film.

The best part was with the geriatrics though.
I've never laughed as hard at a movie than when the tough desert grannies showed up on bikes with guns.

[TheOnceAndFutureKing]

time for a bump.

in an ideal world free of SJW shit, I would have the sequel have Mel Gibson playing an aging Max trying to find purpose in the wasteland.

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-13-2018 12:38 AM)TheOnceAndFutureKing Wrote:  

time for a bump.

in an ideal world free of SJW shit, I would have the sequel have Mel Gibson playing an aging Max trying to find purpose in the wasteland.

An aging Max yes.
Wandering aimlessly.
Get's on the wrong side of a 'normal' family. Kidnaps their daughter as leverage to get away unscathed.

Girl is scared. Max is annoyed.
Then over the course of the film the young girl is able to remind Max of what it is to be human.

Max decides to return the girl to her family.
Yet has to protect the family & the young girl from bandits.

Max dies as a result.
The family buries Max out of... tradition if nothing else.

The wasteland carries on...
---
At least I could have pitched that script idea I had ~10 or so years ago if it wasn't now for Logan.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=furyroad.htm

Mad Maxine made 358 mio. $ and that is a slight loss. They invested 50 mio. + $ in marketing on top of the 150 mio. $ of production. So they required at least 400-500 mio.$ for breakeven.

And honestly if they had put Mel Gibson in there, had real masculine themes in addition to the new Mad Max who could take over for a trilogy - then yes, they should have made 600-900 mio. $ easily enough.

The movie was well-made, but if you really think that men enjoy bullshit gender-politics, feminism, super-women without a hand being the bosses of hundreds of more deserving men, super-grannies fighting 300 pounds pure-muscle men etc - then you are absolutely deluded. That shit cost them 200 mio. $ + and I think it is even possible that Mel Gibson refused the part. A conservative masculine guy like Mel would never accept a shitty script like that. It does not matter that the movie was done well and the entire world is fascinating enough. That is what made them make 350 Mio. $ in the first place.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

How on earth did the movie manage to make just $358 million? Putting aside the bullshit SJW rave reviews of the movie, it was genuinely well-loved by the public and even the forum members here went to see it, liked and recommended it to others. I don't get it. It seemed like a very popular movie.

[CynicalContrarian]

(02-13-2018 04:43 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

How on earth did the movie manage to make just $358 million? Putting aside the bullshit SJW rave reviews of the movie, it was genuinely well-loved by the public and even the forum members here went to see it, liked and recommended it to others. I don't get it. It seemed like a very popular movie.

Neither a Star Wars, Marvel nor a DC property?
In fact, it seems in it's opening weekend it had plenty of competition from Pitch Perfect 2 & Avengers: Age Of Ultron.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Movie was fucking awesome. One of the few in living memory that I walked out of the cinema feeling great about having watched.

Women try to escape.
Fuck it up.
Superdude has to save them from hardcore dudes, repeatedly.
Crackpot grannies arrive.
Crackpot grannies get massacred nearly instantly.
Superdude still saves the day.
Hardcore dude turned superdude sacrifices self to save feckless bitches.
Superdude has to give superdude blood to save another feckless bitch.
Superdude could become lazy king. Not even interested.
Would rather wander wastes like a badass and get into more adventures than stay and fuck feminists.

Matriarchy BTFO.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Heh - we can differ on that movie Leonard.

But the matriarchy won of course afterwards. Doubtful that he could have taken command, since no one knew him later.

Either way - one should really compare it to the first 2 Aliens movies or the terminator ones to see the difference between well created female characters and the propaganda of mystical super-bitches like in Mad Maxine.

But as I said - the opinions were divided here as well. Some liked the Mad Max themes well enough to brush aside all the agenda points put in.

[Paracelsus]

Look, it has giant chop shop cars and dune buggies, supermodels with chastity belts and fairly sheer clothing, and a dude playing thrash metal on the hood of a semitrailer. Don't overthink this shit, Giant Postapocalyptic Fucking Car Fu, your argument is invalid.

[Aurini]

(02-13-2018 05:14 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(02-13-2018 04:43 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

How on earth did the movie manage to make just $358 million? Putting aside the bullshit SJW rave reviews of the movie, it was genuinely well-loved by the public and even the forum members here went to see it, liked and recommended it to others. I don't get it. It seemed like a very popular movie.

Neither a Star Wars, Marvel nor a DC property?
In fact, it seems in it's opening weekend it had plenty of competition from Pitch Perfect 2 & Avengers: Age Of Ultron.

Don't underestimate Clarey's RoK article; I've been reading between the lines out of what I hear coming from Hollywood, and his article was enough to tip that movie into the red.

If only we could do the same thing with Star Wars fans - but the soy is strong there.

[Malone]

I'm 100% in agreement with Leonard here. This was a feminist movie subverted.

Stupid bitches have a stupid plan: Let's flee our pampered lives as the warlord's wives and escape to the place one of his other slaves came from. She says it's really great!

They smuggle into her war rig, and she takes them out into the desert. She barely gets away after betraying and killing her own command. Max has to save her ass.

They find the grannies, who have taken "The Green Place" and fucked it up somehow. They're now wandering the desert trying to lure travelers to their death. They talk a good game but can't fight for shit.

The plan is then "go back!" - another stupid plan. Max makes it work again, along with the other man.

They get back and immediately let a bunch of scrubs in with them as well as dumping their precious water into the sand.

Max peaces out.

Fast forward 6 months: 80% of them dead. New warlord in place.

[RatInTheWoods]

Sorry but the symbolism of the alpha bitch using Mad Max as a rifle tripod is clear for all to see.