[ONE A DAY]

Fisto,

I sent you a PM.

[BallsDeep]

I too am interested in this whole microbiome thing and am intrigued to see how your journey into the Amazon helps to restore it.

I'd like to thing my microbiome is in good shape but I really have no idea. I've been doing a lot of the health tips discussed on this forum including:

Baking soda instead of deodorant
Drinking Fluoride-free water only
Haven't taken an antibiotic or tylenol in 10+ years
Drinking a good amount of ACV and bone broth

But yet I do suffer from lethargy. Doing those colon cleanses in SEA had helped restore my energy levels in the past, but they're expensive and IMO not the full solution. The master cleanse has been less effective.

I'll developing be following this thread with hopes that you're on to something.

[Duke Castile]

Buster, the trouble is that 100s of strains get wiped out at a time. Probiotics, fermented foods, etc only replace 4 or 5 strains compared to the 100s you lost.

BallsDeep, it's possible you've never replaced the strains you need in order for the food you eat to be made useful to you by the bacteria in your gut.

[Veloce]

Damn.

Ayahuasca. Fecal matter transplant. Curing cancer. Banging Latinas.

This is some next level shit. I assume you'll be doing the yage with a shaman or guide, I can't wait to hear about your experience. Psychedelics can provide incredible treatment.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(03-24-2015 08:02 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 07:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Well, my uncle was just informed that he should expect to live several more years with chemo therapy.

In other words, I am no longer on a time sensitive mission.

Shit is falling into place! (that's a fecal matter transplant joke).

You can still go and help cure my diverticuli and give some jungle love to the female recipients down there.

Go there it's calling you.

Mech if you have diverticulosis you should go to your gastroenterologist and have him write you a prescription for this exact probiotic:

VSL#3

It's by far the best one out there, and it will very likely resolve your diverticuli. You take one packet each day mixed into some food -- like yogurt, or juice or whatever.

[burownidl]

(03-23-2015 09:44 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Have you considered on going on a multi-day fast? Like 3 days. I believe it's been recently shown that it can reset your immune system.

I'd be more concerned about your health than banging girls; I mean there is no doubt you will be successful.

Ive read fasting helps kill off cancer cells as well. Below is an article I pulled from leangains. Its pretty good. There's a section named "Cell proliferation and cancer".
http://www.lift-heavy.com/intermittent-fasting/

Also, have you thought about going to Colorado and getting Cannabis oil?

[Duke Castile]

(03-25-2015 08:09 PM)gps1976 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 09:44 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Have you considered on going on a multi-day fast? Like 3 days. I believe it's been recently shown that it can reset your immune system.

I'd be more concerned about your health than banging girls; I mean there is no doubt you will be successful.

Ive read fasting helps kill off cancer cells as well. Below is an article I pulled from leangains. Its pretty good. There's a section named "Cell proliferation and cancer".
http://www.lift-heavy.com/intermittent-fasting/

Also, have you thought about going to Colorado and getting Cannabis oil?

No, I haven't thought about it, what good is it?

[Atlantic]

I have lived with some hippie folk before who swore by Apricot kernels as anti-cancer treatment. They had a friend fight cancer by eating hundreds over the space of several weeks.

http://www.anticancerinfo.co.uk/apricot_kernels.html

[newgame]

(03-25-2015 08:23 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

I have lived with some hippie folk before who swore by Apricot kernels as anti-cancer treatment. They had a friend fight cancer by eating hundreds over the space of several weeks.

http://www.anticancerinfo.co.uk/apricot_kernels.html

I've heard the same thing, but before trying that you should look into cyanide content of Apricot kernels.

[Sandman]

Interesting to reflect that when we are born our gut is sterile

I wonder what the research days about people with colostomies and their biomes

Fisto, what's the downside to getting at least s diagnostic work up for the common causes of chronic fatigue? Sorry if you've already done that and I missed it.

Does your fatigue change when you get oceans of sleep?

There was an Ayahuasca conference in NYC this past Saturday or the Saturday before. May be interesting to see what the biggest controversies are. I've tried it in the amazon and when I've been in CO and its good medicine but harsh sometimes.

[Laurifer]

I cycled Azithromycin on and off for probably close to 2 years. I never thought about what it did to my gut bacteria until only a few months ago, but I thought as long as I consumed probiotics it would be restored easily. How fucked am I?

[Duke Castile]

(03-25-2015 11:00 PM)Sandman Wrote:  

Interesting to reflect that when we are born our gut is sterile

I wonder what the research days about people with colostomies and their biomes

Fisto, what's the downside to getting at least s diagnostic work up for the common causes of chronic fatigue? Sorry if you've already done that and I missed it.

Does your fatigue change when you get oceans of sleep?

There was an Ayahuasca conference in NYC this past Saturday or the Saturday before. May be interesting to see what the biggest controversies are. I've tried it in the amazon and when I've been in CO and its good medicine but harsh sometimes.

No, I'm always tired. More sleep doesn't really change things. If I get less sleep then I'm really bad off.

This is the conclusion I've come to after years of self experimentation.

[Duke Castile]

(03-25-2015 11:31 PM)Laurifer Wrote:  

I cycled Azithromycin on and off for probably close to 2 years. I never thought about what it did to my gut bacteria until only a few months ago, but I thought as long as I consumed probiotics it would be restored easily. How fucked am I?

That's an antibiotic called a Zpack, it's like napalm, destroys everything good and bad.

I would imagine you're not too well off.

How do you feel? Do you have a lot of gas? Are you bursting with energy throughout the day?

Do you wake up thinking "fuck yeah" or do you always wish you could sleep 8 more hours?

2 years is a long time to be on that antibiotic.

[Big Nilla]

May not be relevant, but perhaps look into removing mercury/silver fillings, if you have any.

[Buster]

Quote:

Posted by Veloce - Yesterday 02:18 PM
Damn.

Ayahuasca. Fecal matter transplant. Curing cancer. Banging Latinas.

I guess you need to add wet nursing several of those Latinas to the list. There could be worse ways to work on a cure for your condition!

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.v...icrobiome/

"Mother’s microbial milk

“The overwhelming dogma before the microbiome world really started was that milk was sterile, that the only time you could culture an organism out of milk was when a woman had mastitis,” an infection of the breast tissue, said Mark McGuire, a milk researcher at the University of Idaho. So when Complutense University’s Rodríguez first began examining breast milk in the 1990s and found evidence that it served as a potential source of microbes in infant feces, many people didn’t believe him. They assumed that his samples were contaminated, “maybe from the mother’s skin or maybe the mouth of baby,” he said, but the bacterial strains he found in breast milk didn’t exist in the mouth or on the skin. And later, his group confirmed that these breast-milk bacteria were finding their way into the infant gut.

In 2011, McGuire’s team characterized the microbiome of human breast milk from 16 women. “It’s quite a diverse [microbial] community,” McGuire told The Scientist. The most abundant bacteria were Streptococcus, Staphylococcus, Serratia, and Corynebacteria, although each woman’s sample was different. “It was very personalized,” said McGuire. “Part of that personalization means she’s sampling her environment and providing that environment to her offspring, and maybe that’s a way to train the immune system and help the infant expand what it’s going to be exposed to early in life.”

[Sandman]

Fisto, you may already know, but just FYI, the differential diagnosis for fatigue is:

thyroid, B12, testosterone, adrenal supression, lyme, hepatic and renal issues : easy quick lab tests

sleep apnea, myasthenia gravis, depression: relatively straitforward to rule out

Harder to evaluate; copper/lead levels, sick building/mold , etc.

PM me if I can help more with relayed insights

[Duke Castile]

(03-26-2015 03:03 AM)Sandman Wrote:  

Fisto, you may already know, but just FYI, the differential diagnosis for fatigue is:

thyroid, B12, testosterone, adrenal supression, lyme, hepatic and renal issues : easy quick lab tests

sleep apnea, myasthenia gravis, depression: relatively straitforward to rule out

Harder to evaluate; copper/lead levels, sick building/mold , etc.

PM me if I can help more with relayed insights

Yeah I had all the labs done and my doctor was looking at me like I'm dumb.

I look great but I don't feel great.

Depression has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember but I'm starting to think of it as more of a symptom of a damaged microbiome and not an independent illness.

Again, the big theme with all these illnesses are that the mitochondria in the cells, for whatever reason, aren't functioning to capacity, including depression.

[rottenapple]

Already lots of interesting info in this thread, I'll keep following this and Fisto hope to see you of course as well as other members. I'll be the resident Rooshv'er this year around in Quito, so everyone passing by let me know.

I intent to learn a lot more about the indigenous way of life and its effect of health. It seems possible that even through my job I will visit indigenous communities in the amazon. Furthermore I'll self experiment a lot with stuff I am getting from the same groups, I'm talking about Sangre de drago, jugo de Sandia, Cactus juice, Uno de Gato, ... Pure and straight from the amazon through local contacts. Nevertheless a fecal matter transplant may even be on the table as a lot of Fisto's theory makes sense to me, but I'll let him to the pioneering in this domain.

And yes latinas... many of them. 3 hours after my flight arrived, I already broke my condom and unknowingly came inside a girl that is atleast a 9. This year will be intense, thats for sure.

[Fortitudinal]

Hey Fisto, you may find this amusing: Martin Luther King was a big fan of poop. If I recall correctly he called it 'the greatest medicine the Lord gave man' or something along those lines. . .

Interesting what you will learn wandering the Atlanta airport . . .

[Renton1875]

(03-25-2015 08:11 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 08:09 PM)gps1976 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 09:44 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Have you considered on going on a multi-day fast? Like 3 days. I believe it's been recently shown that it can reset your immune system.

I'd be more concerned about your health than banging girls; I mean there is no doubt you will be successful.

Ive read fasting helps kill off cancer cells as well. Below is an article I pulled from leangains. Its pretty good. There's a section named "Cell proliferation and cancer".
http://www.lift-heavy.com/intermittent-fasting/

Also, have you thought about going to Colorado and getting Cannabis oil?

No, I haven't thought about it, what good is it?

This may be what gps1976 was alluding too:

Interesting stuff, well worth viewing!

Went to an evening with the film maker of the first one(project storm) in Glasgow last year.

Prince of Pot, Marc Emery, was also present, one of his first public apperances after his incarceration, for selling/shipping seed's, in the US.

Big Pharma now trying to jump on the band-wagon, unfortunately with synthesised shit!
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Hear what your saying about all the shit we unknowingly consume, injest nowadays Fisto!

Suffered chronic fatigue, depressive periods, gut probs, etc. Put mine down to stressfull incidents, adrenals going crazy, burning candles at both end, whole load of shit really!

Would advise reading my post, #604, on the ACV thread, may help you out with some of your problems! It did me!
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7518-page-25.html

Hope this helps.

[Aliblahba]

(03-26-2015 11:55 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

I look great but I don't feel great.

Depression has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember but I'm starting to think of it as more of a symptom of a damaged microbiome and not an independent illness.

Again, the big theme with all these illnesses are that the mitochondria in the cells, for whatever reason, aren't functioning to capacity, including depression.

I know what's wrong with you, but you won't fucking listen to your brother-in-arms.

[rottenapple]

(03-26-2015 05:41 PM)Salty Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 08:11 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 08:09 PM)gps1976 Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 09:44 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Have you considered on going on a multi-day fast? Like 3 days. I believe it's been recently shown that it can reset your immune system.

I'd be more concerned about your health than banging girls; I mean there is no doubt you will be successful.

Ive read fasting helps kill off cancer cells as well. Below is an article I pulled from leangains. Its pretty good. There's a section named "Cell proliferation and cancer".
http://www.lift-heavy.com/intermittent-fasting/

Also, have you thought about going to Colorado and getting Cannabis oil?

No, I haven't thought about it, what good is it?

This may be what gps1976 was alluding too:

Interesting stuff, well worth viewing!

Went to an evening with the film maker of the first one(project storm) in Glasgow last year.

Prince of Pot, Marc Emery, was also present, one of his first public apperances after his incarceration, for selling/shipping seed's, in the US.

Big Pharma now trying to jump on the band-wagon, unfortunately with synthesised shit!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hear what your saying about all the shit we unknowingly consume, injest nowadays Fisto!

Suffered chronic fatigue, depressive periods, gut probs, etc. Put mine down to stressfull incidents, adrenals going crazy, burning candles at both end, whole load of shit really!

Would advise reading my post, #604, on the ACV thread, may help you out with some of your problems! It did me!
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7518-page-25.html

Hope this helps.

Yeah those posts were insightful Salty, for me candida as well but in combination with other stuff probably (because candida fucked up many things or vice versa). I think we are all pretty much in the same boat here, as well as millions of others in western society.

Bad food + toxic environment + sometimes antibiotics = acid level and types of micro bacteria are distorted = fucked up gut, a base for candida, worms, parasites, etc. = bad energy levels, foggy brain, allergies, eczema, reduced libido, bad digestion, ... and in long term or more serious cases chronic fatigue syndrome, fybromalgia, diabetes, various types of cancer, ...

Solutions: paleo diet, lifting & exercise, if you can move, go outside western world, supplementing with good stuff like ACV and others and if all those dont do the trick, well maybe fecal matter transplant can be the ultimate cure. But i do wonder on the effects on personality and character it can have. Interesting shit.

[worldwidetraveler]

It's a very interesting topic.

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/03/2...427396295/

Quote:

To further test the link between mind and stomach, researchers at LSU decided to study the effects of an obesity-related microbiota on a healthy, non-obese mouse. In other words, healthy mice were injected with microbiota transplanted from the guts of obese mice -- mice subsisting on high-fat diets.

Once subjected to the high-fat microbiota, the mice exhibited a number of behavioral changes -- an uptick in anxiety, impaired memory, repetitive behaviors and more. Researchers also observed physiological symptoms, including inflammation of the digestive system and brain.

I definitely want to look more into this when I get a chance. Thanks for bringing this up, Fisto. I don't think I would have heard anything about this otherwise.

[Duke Castile]

(03-26-2015 06:37 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

It's a very interesting topic.

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/03/2...427396295/

Quote:

To further test the link between mind and stomach, researchers at LSU decided to study the effects of an obesity-related microbiota on a healthy, non-obese mouse. In other words, healthy mice were injected with microbiota transplanted from the guts of obese mice -- mice subsisting on high-fat diets.

Once subjected to the high-fat microbiota, the mice exhibited a number of behavioral changes -- an uptick in anxiety, impaired memory, repetitive behaviors and more. Researchers also observed physiological symptoms, including inflammation of the digestive system and brain.

I definitely want to look more into this when I get a chance. Thanks for bringing this up, Fisto. I don't think I would have heard anything about this otherwise.

This same thing happens in human beings. I read about one person that was given a fecal matter transplant from an obese person and gained 35 pounds.

These bacteria control you in ways you'd never think.

What you choose to eat is a big part of it.

Unfortunately fatties can actually make the argument that they are fat because of DNA, except it isn't their own.

[Laurifer]

(03-26-2015 12:06 AM)Fisto Wrote:  

That's an antibiotic called a Zpack, it's like napalm, destroys everything good and bad.

I would imagine you're not too well off.

How do you feel? Do you have a lot of gas? Are you bursting with energy throughout the day?

Do you wake up thinking "fuck yeah" or do you always wish you could sleep 8 more hours?

2 years is a long time to be on that antibiotic.

Damn, I'd honestly have to say I'm more prone to sluggishness.

All of the discussion on this forum about testosterone and vitality can make one a bit paranoid about whether or not their test levels are optimal, and perhaps make one prone to unknowingly exaggerate their negative symptoms . So in that sense, I wonder if I have less than optimal test, if the antibiotics really fucked with me, or if I'm perfectly fine.

If it means anything I think I took it 3 days on, 3 days off. Perhaps this was to keep my natural immune system intact?

Thanks for the thread, I'll start looking into this more.