PS: Well, this could probably go into DEEP - I did not know and just put it where other TV series & Master thread was posted.
You are confusing HIS VALUE SYSTEMS with YOURS.
Whether you are a Priest or a Player or a Power Lifter or Porn Star or Business man..
There are some interesting Zen & Stoic lessons in there.
The fact that he does not choose to engage in fights right away in his stories in the Wild West versus how he used to Boil & Loose his cool as he was GROWING & LEARNING in China E.g. Seeing his parents killer etc. is control over emotions..
I am looking at this as INNER STRENGTH & CENTEREDNESS no matter what the outer storms send ones way..
How he deals with his "women" experiences in a fictitious scenario of Shaolin half white-chinese in the Wild West in EARLIER times is not something that APPLIES to us our life or our times.
As times & places change cultural externals change..
But inner lessons and inner weaknesses and nature of men & women exhibited in subtle dissection.. is what I like.. and how WE APPLY that to OUR LIVES will have their UNIQUE ways.
Time & places and people will change and be unique, but battling ones inner demons does not. How many people here on RVF have their own unique flavors of inner demons?
Anyone into meditation/ zen or martial arts would likely find something of interest here... Compared to modern TV shows
Quote: (02-11-2018 12:12 PM)questor70 Wrote:
This thread probably belongs in the Deep Forum....
Roosh was flirting with some of these concepts, but I do not feel that the philosophies espoused by this show are compatible with manosphere thought. I have watched this show quite a bit over the last couple years and it helps me manage red-pill rage and overall life-disappointment.
In a select few episodes Caine becomes tempted by poon and the advice from the flashbacks is closest to MGTOW. The one episode I'm aware of where Caine gets laid, she was just using him, reinforcing the idea to just remain celibate.
Other than to achieve inner-peace/self-actualization, Caine has one and only one life-goal, which is to find his brother. But the compulsion to find his brother seems to wax and wane as he largely wanders aimlessly from place to place. In some respects Caine could be seen as "alpha" as far as exhibiting the discipline required to learn all the tricks of Kung Fu, but from episode to episode you watch him shy away from using force up to the last possible moment, getting knocked around and beat up in a way that would brand him a beta to most.
He most often walks around like a hobbit without any shoes and barely has any possessions. He is closest to a Jesus or saint archetype, only reserving the right to whoop-ass when pushed hard enough. Most of the time people are just as baffled by his belief-system as they are prejudiced against him for his race (as they perceive him as a "chinaman"). The value-system in the old West is, for lack of a better word, objectivist, something the alt-right generally supports.
The show came about during the last gasp of liberal idealism in the early 70s. It was absolutely a social justice sort of show. One of the strongest episodes covered a rape trial, for instance. The big difference is that it's ultimately an appeal to develop positive qualities of character, compassion and forgiveness, whereas modern SJW fosters an us vs. them mentality, a game of scoring victim-points and banishing waves of men into the wilderness through shame.
The show demonstrates racism, sexism, bullying, greed, etc... but the bad guys are not painted as merely empty strawmen caricatures the way they are today. An attempt is made to understand why they went down this pathway and in some cases the bad guys turn over a new leaf and the victims forgive their abusers. This demonstration of compassion and forgiveness no longer exists in society today.
Carradine himself said that the ultimate message of the show was anti-revenge. This is why he tried to create a strong distinction between Caine and Bill (from Kill Bill). Kill Bill glorifies revenge where Kung Fu presents morality plays showing how revenge is ultimately self-destructive.
Beyond this, the show attacks the notion that a man should build an alpha empire. Something like Wolf or Wallstreet or Scarface are textbook cases of how to build status and translate cash it out into a pussy paradise. In existentialist thought, doing X, Y, Z just for pussy is actually a weakness as it reflects a dependence on a thing. "If I just get this, then I will be happy." The anti-climax of this is best described by another stoic (Spock) when he said "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
I think it would be very useful for people here to watch it, but be aware that it WILL challenge some key tenets of the manosphere value-system.
- I havent not see the rape trial episode as yet
- It is a different era so take what is useful and leave the rest
- How many Celebrities have you seen with Money, Empire & everything at their disposal but seem to destroy themselves and their lives?
Psychological issues and lack of inner grounding and anchor.
Life, business, women stuff will go up & down.. can you still be Centered?
Takeaway: The inner evolution is key..
- And it is a fact, I wanted a certain car, when I got it.. I never cared for it.. I wanted a certain fancy laptop.. got it.. its gathering dust.. used to love spending on the latest gadget.. now an older phone does not matter to me..
Now, gives me awareness of what really matters to me.. and let my possessions own me..
