[Hannibal]

A true sign of intelligence is being able to discover/create complexity and then break it down into it's simplest terms. Creation is the highest section of bloom's taxonomy for a reason. It takes everything underneath it to be able to create something.



A guy who can't explain a complicated topic in layman's terms likely doesn't know the topic himself. It's like showing your work, if you have a problem and you somehow figured out the answer but you can't explain how to get there, that's hardly proof of a solution. Get back to work.

It took a genius to discover calculus and break it down in layman's terms. Now anyone can learn it with enough work.

If you run into a guy who uses big words to appear smart, you're talking to a faggot with a dictionary and a lot of time on his hands.

[PolymathGuru]

The difference between smart and not smart is the difference between an RVF user and a RoK user.

[Fortis]

^

I can't even read ROK anymore. The articles have jumped the shark. And the comments? Forget the comments man. Luckily, those guys either join up and cool down or get banned within a week of joining.

Couldn't agree more with Polymath.

[Sooth]

ROK is an extremely valuable resource to us and even though many of the readers are passive and only read for entertainment, when we move the Overton window far enough they will be fighting by our side.

[Ibagemyoutagem]

I believe the smartest people have a low risk tolerance in all there actions, every action they do is basically socially correct and applauded . They are almost always "right".

[YoungAngel1]

I've met some dumb fuckers who are very articulate, pretty much they speak with a silver tongue. and I've met some smart fuckers who have no articulation whatsoever. constantly stumbling over their words, and sound dumb to society standards. I also find people who are more confident seem more smart. there are so many things that go into it. who knows

[EDantes]

Wisdom IMO is the ultimate form of intelligence.

Truth is most people, even those with "education" or degrees aren't really that wise.

The fact that a professor can spend 8+ years in a public university and still think that Marxism is a good ideology is an example.

Or the computer programmer geek who makes a nice $70,000 per year but thinks the reason he can't get a girlfriend is because he's "too nice".

Just some random examples.

[Walker]

(01-31-2016 04:58 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

(01-31-2016 12:29 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

On the other hand, I think there is a kind of ability to interact with the real world, to see how things work, to control yourself and get work done. Real smartness that is recognized by other people comes when you can harness your brainpower to accomplish real tasks, that are too complex or conceptually difficult for other people to do.

Raw brainpower alone doesn't enable this. A lot of people with high brainpower are dysfunctional, and are probably not widely recognized as smart. Smart people are the ones who can deliver solutions to hard problems.

For me, a large chunk of being "smart" comes to down to the ability to get what you want out of life.

I know plenty of people with higher IQs, who went to better schools, got more degrees, and excel at skills (like programming or engineering) that make my head spin.

But I can count on one hand the number of people I know who live the life of their dreams. I just so happen to be one of those people.

I run my own business. I have a sizable pile of fuck-you money in the bank, and a number of investments that should enable me to stop working entirely by ~40 (I'm in my mid-twenties). I wake up every day and do whatever the hell I feel like doing. I'm in the best shape of my life, I have a number of genuine friends from high-quality social circles, and the only time I'm without female companionship is when I choose to be. I fucking love my life, and the problems I do have are "good" problems, like trying to get rid of a stage-5 clinger after taking her virginity.

I could go on, but you get my point. Most of the "smart" people I know are up to their ears in debt, working jobs they hate, married to fat pigs they can't stand, living without any sense of purpose or joie de vivre.

Your average Mensa member might point to my degree from State U, or my SAT score, and claim they're smarter than me. And sure, by objective standards they may be more intelligent. But if you're not living the kind of life you yourself genuinely want to live, how smart can you really be?

I don't like this answer because it fails to account for people who get caught by a trap early in life that no one could reasonably get out of, and which has heavy long term consequences.

Smart kid grows up ugly and is mostly shunned by women, but then a cunning gold digger seduces him, and quickly sets up a half your stuff arrangement by early 20s.

Smart kid grows up with a much more malicious and violent than average school bully, and has no choice but to maim or kill him in self defense, derailing his education and staining his record under a zero tolerance policy.

Smart kid burns a bridge with an unlikeable family member or friend as a child, and the burned bridge holds a grudge which lasts until adulthood. He stalks smart kid through his adult life, gossiping to smart kid's classmates and colleagues and ruining smart kid's reputation.

Smart kid was pushed to join the corporate world in his adolescence without ever being taught how promotion works in that environment, and ends up forced into a role of productive and innovative but underpaid beta workhorse.

Smart kid was straight up born with a disfigured organ or a defective immune system and was fated to a life of being sickly or crippled before his life decisions could ever have a chance to matter.

etc.

Most of the smart people you knew who have lackluster lives have a struggle like that lurking in their past. Depending on the exact nature of the struggle, they might overcome it and become wealthy and independent later, or that might be physically impossible.

BTW "fuck you" money means you have so much money that by conservatively investing it, it outgrows your life expenses, such that no matter how young you are you never have to work again. If you're 25 and set to retire at 40 you're well above average financially but you're a long way from "fuck you" money. Also your life has plenty of time left to be derailed by some black swan shit.

[Walker]

(01-30-2016 10:19 PM)dispenser Wrote:  

Speed of perception.
Speed of comparison, i.e. recognition of similarities.

I like this answer the best and I struggle to come up with a better way of putting it.

[Vinny]

(01-30-2016 08:29 PM)F1l1pV Wrote:  

It's fairly common to see people talk about intelligence and being smart on this forum. I think being smart or intelligent has several different meanings and the definition of being " smart " is debatable. Some would say it's the ability of coming up with original and innovative ideas, or having good logical and critical thinking skills.

As the title suggests, what do you consider smart? / Define your idea of being intelligent.¨

Edit: maybe I should've put this in the Deep section?

In my opinion being smart is knowing facts and ways of life and implementing them in real life.
If you just know a lot and can not use it, you are impractical and merely book smart.
My 2 cents.

[Bazzwaldo]

For me an intellegent person is identifyed by their ability to understand things quickly, to join the dots at a faster rate than 'normal'
Highly intellegent people are different again, they have ephinies from both abstract and logical observation using critical thinking. Its this last piece that sees men traditionally dominate in the STEM fields.
Unfortunately today, feminist entitlement and political correctness sees women's numbers increasing in this field using that rate of understanding mentioned earlier plus shitloads of cramming, granted this is a generalisation, however they are not commonly known for critical thinking as there was no evolutuonary imperative for it on their part

[CynicalContrarian]

“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
― British historian, Henry Thomas Buckle

[Pride male]

To the guys who have spent time with East asians, are they really that smart?

[thedarkknight]

(02-17-2016 02:33 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

To the guys who have spent time with East asians, are they really that smart?

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[la bodhisattva]

Dr. Kahn.

[Rush87]

(02-02-2016 11:35 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

A true sign of intelligence is being able to discover/create complexity and then break it down into it's simplest terms. Creation is the highest section of bloom's taxonomy for a reason. It takes everything underneath it to be able to create something.



A guy who can't explain a complicated topic in layman's terms likely doesn't know the topic himself. It's like showing your work, if you have a problem and you somehow figured out the answer but you can't explain how to get there, that's hardly proof of a solution. Get back to work.

It took a genius to discover calculus and break it down in layman's terms. Now anyone can learn it with enough work.

If you run into a guy who uses big words to appear smart, you're talking to a faggot with a dictionary and a lot of time on his hands.

This post perfectly sums up the question. Simplifying a complex problem [On any level] is a sign of intelligence. The most successful people on planet earth make complexity appear simple.

[Pride male]

The ability to make lots of money.

[PolymathGuru]

(02-17-2016 02:33 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

To the guys who have spent time with East asians, are they really that smart?

No. They tend to be more studious and status oriented. They study so they can improve your status in life. Intelligence be damned.

[pot of smoke]

Anyone said Davis Aurini yet?

Also, Aurini's boy TheBechtloff

[pot of smoke]

what do you guys think of stefan molyneux?

[Speculation]

(04-14-2016 12:29 AM)pot of smoke Wrote:  

what do you guys think of stefan molyneux?

There's a thread on Stefan in this subform. Just search for it.