[Barron]

(03-24-2015 02:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Angela's interview with me is now in the San Diego Art Institute:

http://sandiego-art.org/sdai-balboa-park...ela-washko

The San Diego City Beat declared it a "top pick":

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/artic...-more.html

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Take a journey into the mind of the pickup artist, the player. Is womanizing a learned behavior or a proclivity some guys are just born with? Authorized Mythologies: Two Performances on Men, Conquest Claims and Authority, seeks to explore this question in unexpected ways. Happening at 7 p.m. Friday, March 27, at the San Diego Art Institute in Balboa Park, the evening features Angela Washko's "A Monopoly on Truth: How I Interviewed the Web's Most Infamous Misogynist" and Nathaniel Sullivan's "A View From Above," which explores the mythology of basketball legend and notorious womanizer Wilt Chamberlain. Admission is $5.

I am art.

From the second paragraph:

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"Both performances are unveiling these men who are misogynists, and how they view women and how they relate sexual experience to them being awesome people," says Ginger Porcella, SDAI's executive director.

My libel alarms are going off, wonder if someone can video the entire production? This has misrepresentation written all over it, Roosh do you know any lawyers?

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"She's further exploring her ongoing project looking at Roosh," Porcella says of Washko's work. "In her performance, she's showing snippets of her two-hour discussion with Roosh and analyzing it with the public."

Would be awesome to get a ton of Roosh supporters in the crowd and turn the whole thing against her. Since she's obviously profiting from using Roosh's name in her "art" I think some public humiliation could do her a bit of good

[AnonymousBosch]

So, basically, Angela can only make a name for herself as an 'artist' - whatever that means anymore in a post-post-modern age - with the help of an accomplished, well-travelled, interesting man. Then, predictably, injects herself into the narrative, to make herself seem more interesting by association with him.

Female creatives: *Yawn*

[turkishcandy]

^That's why Roosh said he is art. Cause she is artist only through Roosh

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-25-2015 12:43 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

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"She's further exploring her ongoing project looking at Roosh," Porcella says of Washko's work. "In her performance, she's showing snippets of her two-hour discussion with Roosh and analyzing it with the public."

Would be awesome to get a ton of Roosh supporters in the crowd and turn the whole thing against her. Since she's obviously profiting from using Roosh's name in her "art" I think some public humiliation could do her a bit of good

This is an art project and she can essentially do whatever she wants with the interview - she could literally change it digitally.

Also profits from those small-scale art expos are very very limited. She is in sea of millions of other small-time artists around the world.

The art itself as a project is in my opinion stupid - it sort of fits in the feminist, SJW narrative, but the problem for those is that feminist and SJW narrative does not sell as much as anyone might believe. The art market is dominated by wealthy people, galleries and partly big museums - and those individuals and organizations don't want crap like that in their homes and galleries. Many famous art pieces are actually more Red Pill than it seems. While there is a strong tendency in the art world to focus on the negative, feminism and stark intellectualism do not go too well together. Also the financial art elite have little patience for crappy feminist artists.

This is one field the SJW cannot twitter their way in, since this takes real money and they usually have way to little for that. Also Larry the CEO and Jeff the billionaire hate SJWs and feminists in private, so why should they buy their shit?

[AnonymousBosch]

^ Yeah, I'd missed this thread previously.

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A Monopoly on Truth follows Washko's navigation of safe spaces/dark corners of the internet as she strategizes to create empathetic exchanges across aggressively polarized communities and ultimately gets lost somewhere in the midst of activism, empathy, obsession, and disgust.

With all that resume-padding-speak designed to gain public art grant money, you'd think she crossed the Rubicon.

She read some blogs, skyped with a dude on the internet, and attempted to get some girls to gossip / bitch about an ex-lover.

I'm impressed. This is truly an artistic achievement beyond compare. She deserves our applause.

[Lizard King]

She should cut to the chase and let Roosh bang her for her 'art'.

[Yatagan]

(03-25-2015 07:26 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

She should cut to the chase and let Roosh bang her for her 'art'.

She'd get to learn if he's as experienced as he claims first hand.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-25-2015 07:26 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

She should cut to the chase and let Roosh bang her for her 'art'.

I remember this one female artist who did a life-performance coming up no stage in front of the mayor and other dignitaries. She only had a robe on, then undressed in front of them stark-naked, sat down, spread her legs and then continued to masturbate herself in front of the dignitaries. There was quite a commotion among the crowd.

Later on I even met her - she was attractive enough. She did a few naked self-portraits of her always together with Hitler and we discussed selling her pics. She was quite sexually charged. Knowing what I know about Game - she was into me. I regret not making a move on her. Fuck - so many men miss out on pussy due to lack of Game....

Yeah - she might have fucked Roosh for art actually. But he should have proposed it to her, since it's a new idea. Maybe she would have started doing a new art project - fuck all prominent PUAs and well-known "chauvinists" - but then she likely would have needed to grow out her hair, otherwise quite a few might have said no to her art project.

[AnonymousBosch]

(03-26-2015 01:50 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Yeah - she might have fucked Roosh for art actually. But he should have proposed it to her, since it's a new idea. Maybe she would have started doing a new art project - fuck all prominent PUAs and well-known "chauvinists" - but then she likely would have needed to grow out her hair, otherwise quite a few might have said no to her art project.

If you can pop a chub for a masculine, short-haired woman with an annoying voice like that, you're a stronger player than I am.

[Ocelot]

(03-25-2015 02:16 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

So, basically, Angela can only make a name for herself as an 'artist' - whatever that means anymore in a post-post-modern age - with the help of an accomplished, well-travelled, interesting man. Then, predictably, injects herself into the narrative, to make herself seem more interesting by association with him.

Female creatives: *Yawn*

I don't know, can this really be described as feminist art if something isn't being shoved into, or pulled out of her vagina? I thought that was a staple of the form.

I'd say that at best, this is just standard Female Typist Syndrome, accidentally published in the wrong medium. That is, unless she's planning on doing a "performance art" piece later, where she shoves the interview transcripts up her vagina and then bleeds all over them, or something equally horrid.

[Suits]

(03-25-2015 07:52 PM)Seboist Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 07:26 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

She should cut to the chase and let Roosh bang her for her 'art'.

She'd get to learn if he's as experienced as he claims first hand.

And he'll get to learn about false-rape claims.

[Roosh]

Angela did an interview with an art site and she is mad at you guys for repeatedly saying that she wants to have sex with me. It turns out that you "framed" her.

http://hyperallergic.com/199218/what-hap...up-artist/

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I stupidly did not anticipate the amount of disconcerting responses I got to it. I am used to criticism, but this was something much different. I should have expected this, especially given the polarizing nature of my initial pursuit (the interviews with women). There was some interesting discussion about my approach — some appreciation that I didn’t outright shame him or argue during the interview, and also many questions about whether what I was doing was exploitative to Roosh (certainly fair and hopefully an interesting part of the project) … but it should not be surprising that I was not psyched about the conversations within the forum centered around whether or not forum participants would bang me.

[AnonymousBosch]

(04-23-2015 06:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

but it should not be surprising that I was not psyched about the conversations within the forum centered around whether or not forum participants would bang me.

I made the list.

Feminist logic:

- Attempting to track down a Guy's ex-girlfriends to interview them for 'research purposes' is normal.

- Discussing my (clear lack of traditional) sexual-attractiveness, (let alone artistic ability), is 'creepy'.



And for all the macho talk of her getting 'flirty' and being 'intimidated' by Roosh, never forget that this is a Feminist, and all Feminists are seeking the social power they lack due to being Fugly / Obese / Unpleasant / Moralistic / Dykeish.

As such, I'd expect these 'interviews' to be sexually-based, full of leading questions, weasel words and redefinition of terms in an effort to convince one of Roosh's ex-bangs that she was Legitimately-Raped by him, so she can claim a scalp and up her Social Status as a Goodperson far beyond what a vague, ill-defined rape story sobbed out in a womyn's power meeting can provide.

Remember, they're Cultural Marxists, and power is all: the ends justify the means. I would expect nothing less. Don't underestimate her.

I'd strongly-suggest the fire team start investigating her background, the way she is investigating Roosh's girlfriends - she's set the bar at that level. It might uncover something interesting.

[The Lizard of Oz]

This interview is funny as hell.

After a few paragraphs of low level Brooklyn blather about "ethnographic investigations" LOL, Angie and Ben get down to brass tacks and start talking about the subject they know in their heart of hearts matters more than any other... namely, RVF trolls, bans, and forum moderation in general:

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BV: You wrote that you wanted to do this piece to “break down his performance on the Internet and challenge the myth of objectivity that much of his community clings to, destabilizing his carefully crafted narratives by introducing other complicating voices.” This introduction of complicating voices is a really important tactic for intellectual growth, and one that Roosh and his community seem completely disinterested in. While you’re well-versed now in engaging with trolls, bringing in other voices, even anonymously — putting those perhaps unwilling or scared of this scrutiny into the limelight — is trickier. When did you realize you didn’t want to risk their involvement?

AW: So, after seeing that forum post pop up (it was actually Animal NY who alerted me to it after they’d discovered a lot of activity on the interview redirected from there), what became interesting to me about the introduction of complicating voices is that when questioning or dissenting voices are introduced into Roosh’s community, they are squashed. If someone says something Roosh disagrees with on his forum, he will ban them. If you go through the forum thread I mentioned earlier, there are a number of banned members (not necessarily banned for their contribution on that thread, but it is indicative of an ongoing practice of forum exile). In terms of social media and news, anyone who disagrees with him is subject to harassment and defamation. For the most part I don’t really respond to the trolling and harassment on Twitter. (I mean, I barely use Twitter at all and I’m certainly not going to use it exclusively answer to people united by an online forum debating whether or not they will have sex with me.)

Oh LOL!!

What Angie may not fully realize (but maybe she DOES, and if so I give her almost infinite credit) is that her phrase "ongoing practice of forum exile" truly hits the mark... I was half expecting to see a discussion of exactly WHERE these exiled "complicating voices" like Dash and Deb and bigbootyluvr go, and the relative merits of their chosen exile destinations.

Perhaps that should become the next focus of Angie's "project": an ethnographic investigation of the coping strategies and survival mechanisms of "RVF exiles", with an emphasis on the intersectionality properties of the NN and CMQ ecosystems and their unique role in sustaining these marginalized complicating voices. She would find an exceptionally fertile soil for her investigations, many a willing interlocutor, and more material than she could possibly know what to do with -- enough for a whole career, I'd reckon. No need to thank me, Angie.

[Roosh]

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with an emphasis on the intersectionality properties of the NN and CMQ ecosystems and their unique role in sustaining these marginalized complicating voices.

You fake having a PHD in ______ Studies better than the real thing.

[rpg]

Anybody else notice the red hair and black finger nail polish? Tell tale sign for every man alive to keep on walking.

[The Lizard of Oz]

That interview really is pure comedy gold. I'm sitting here chuckling...

Note how she takes a loving and relishing census of the WB's, with AB's dissent thrown in as a token outlier to disguise her obvious satisfaction:

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Roosh says, “WB [would bang] with long natural hair.” Foolsgo1d says, “If she grew her hair longer and didn’t talk so much I WB.” Shortest Straw (now banned from the forum) says, “WB as is. I just plain like her. I wonder if she realizes just how likable she is.” Turkish candy also says, “WB with long natural hair.” AnonymousBosch says “If you can pop a chub for a masculine, short-haired woman with an annoying voice like that, you’re a stronger player than I am.”

[Prophylaxis]

Just watched the whole thing.

Very candid interview with Roosh and props to the interviewer for allowing Roosh to elaborate. Also thought she seemed like a very genuine, understanding person.

Some of my favourite parts:

* Roosh's view on the role of a Father when rearing kids - "The day you see me strolling a pram, I'm probably on drugs". I agree - it's very unnatural for fathers to want to change diapers or nurture kids in the early stages. Having a stay-at-home dad while the wife works completely contradicts our biological imperative.
* When Roosh stated that currently in the US we have the "most educated, uneducated people living. You can get a Masters but still not know shit about how the world works." Also agree Roosh - experience is the only 'Masters' you'll ever need.
* When Roosh pointed out the inherent contradiction between homosexuality being caused by genes, and gender being dictated by the environment. Both are related. (ON a personal note, I believe homosexuality is caused by biology, with environment playing a minor role - I don't agree environment can make someone homosexual. Just my thoughts.)
* Men who are eager to please women in bed set a very high-expectation from the outset of the relationship. Men who are good in bed are both blessed/cursed - as women love being fucked by you, but there is always the risk she will forever see you as a "human dildo".
* I like how when the interviewer at the end asked Roosh to make a comment to the feminists who will be watching this video, Roosh simply tells them to "grow their hair long".
* Roosh flexed his bicep at the end.

All in all - thanks for sharing - was an awesome interview (I didn't think I would watch the whole 2 hours in one hit tbh). I think content via video works well for Roosh, and hopefully see more of it in the future.

[AnonymousBosch]

Went to art show expecting a Cathedral of Misogyny:



What I got:



What it feels like:



The idea that an artist could look at that and feel pride is utterly-baffling to me. It looks like a school science fair, complete with colouring-in competition on the left. This requires the tax dollars that could go towards genuine Feminist needs like Women's Refuges and Rape Crisis Counselling that would at least serve some useful function in society?

Lizard, I banged my way through many, many artsy girls in my 20' - been that, done that - and I do genuinely-hate her voice. I suspect she singled me out twice because I know how to irritate a woman as much as game her - I refused to take her little A/V Club project seriously as any kind of artistic endeavour whilst knowing she needs to be taken seriously as an artist, and am weary of the feminine need to inject themselves into any narrative. She uses "I" 20 times in the first few paragraphs of her interview alone and by the end of it, it's - as always for a woman - all about her emotional-reaction to what happened. Since this how any random woman off the street filters experience, what's the point of the exercise?

If she can't handle simply not being found sexually-attractive, wait until she steps out side her safe space and is eaten alive by real art critics.

[Suits]

^

[kbell]

There was no creativity in aligning the pages. The pages and screen are very similar hue and tone to the wall which should have been painted or covered in dark paper at least to get contrast. The contrast would be key to see the pages and projection clearer. I think going with a magazine layout with some key quotes that are enlarged to at least 10 times the size on a single sheet of lamented paper would be more impressive visually as well. The less written, except for important info the better. Nobody wants to read a bunch of shit in presentations.

Why is Devo in this?

Are the lamps supposed to represent patriarchy somehow?


Hopefully she didn't get an A for this. Terrible layout and presentation.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

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When I started BANGED, I began with a similarly overly ambitious and aggressive goal — to try to find women who have had relationships with the notorious author of “strategy guides for getting laid at home and abroad” in an effort to create a parallel narrative to his conquest stories (which often allude to specific-but-anonymous women). I wanted to hear their sides of the stories. So there wasn’t really any “courage” or intent to engage with him or his community in the beginning, but rather a more activism-oriented tactical media plan involving distributing a call for these women as far as I could (largely through mainstream media, Craigslist, and physical posting in cities he had been in, to broaden the reach) to solicit the women’s perspectives on their exchanges with him as a response to his perspective...

Roosh, did you know beforehand that she was going to attempt to reach your sexual ex-partners all around the world?

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200+ posts of his forum examined me — and I especially didn’t mean to exploit my collaborator who helped me shoot the interview (I should have edited out the portion of the video in which he expresses anger at the way I was addressed by Roosh throughout the interview).

Look - bunny - if you are reading this - most of us were not put off by you being a feminist or by your looks, which are far above average in comparison to most hardcore feminists. Also you were not behaving like a crazy confrontational harpy and seemed sweet enough.
Being assessed on your bangability is really nothing. Emotional walls must be paper-thin in order to not be able to stomach not being bangable by a bunch of "misogynists". Also the outright attacks did not come after your more or less courteous interview, but after you initiated the attempt to track down Roosh's girls via online tools being mindless and oblivious of many innate female psychological factors that we are all too aware around here, but somehow elude feminists.

The entire list is about as objective as interviewing ex-wives after divorces and trying to compile an honest personality profile of a man. This list would have faltered for many reasons.

Also our "attacks" on that little helper of yours were only directed at him, because he expressed interest at trying to beat up Roosh after having conducted a more or less tame interview. So what - is this social justice borg of yours going to kill everyone here for calling you bunny?

Someone of your male friends seems to have compiled a crazy-misogynist gif of Roosh cutting together everything he could to make the person look demented. Compared to many celebrity gifs this looks comparatively tame, but at least somewhat funny:




And here is the list of supposedly PUA-banged girls:

http://bangedproject.com/on-dating-a-pua/

Funny read, though most of them are rather not what one would define as master-level in Game. Many seem to be some part-time dabblers, some became their boyfriends for years and were actually shy using Game only to get to know the girl, some were actually positive and some were just plain hamster-stupid like this one:

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I've slept with a guy who was using PUA tactics on me all night, I knew what he was doing. I just deflected his silly neg hits and "confusion tactics" which, oddly enough, seemed to make him more interested in me.

What can I say, I was single at the time and he was actually really hot (which is so sad because I would have probably been more into him if he actually treated me like a human being.... so strange!!)

After sexytimes I got dressed in the bathroom and told him goodbye. He asked if I wanted his number. I told him no. He asked if I would give him mine... I told him I don't date guys who use PUA tactics. He looked pretty shocked.

Yeah - you go girl - you showed him! Fucked him all night after knowing him for a few hours (or one hour) and then not given him your number! That will show him. Go out and show all other PUAs your hate of Game with a similar pussy-dispensing tactic - that will teach them all to stop using Game on you!



But aside from the sex that the girls had the end reports are actually positive in many instances. The worst tells are about guys who are incongruent in their Game or rather incompetent. All others at least got plenty of "sexy-time" - heh.

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I am dating a pick up artist, I know because he told me all the techniques he did used pick me up, and the technique he uses to maintain attraction to me, and I always smile thinking about how I really like those things. I don't see anything inherently bad with pick up artistry, there are bad pick up artists who don't know what they're doing, but for the ones who know how to do it, the techniques actually work.

I guess that's what people disagree on. It’s the question of whether or not the result of the manipulation is in that person's interest. If the question is about manipulating someone to go into a boiling pot of hot lava, then it's obvious. If the question is about getting both people to agree to a sexual experience that they both will possibly enjoy, then the question of "whether it was a negative outcome" becomes a little more confusing. It raises the question of did she actually want it, or was she being forced against her will? Would she had still wanted it if the interaction had gone differently? For me these questions are looking at it the wrong way because, like you mentioned, it's the results you want to look at. Did she willingly have sex with him? Yes. Did she enjoy the sexual experience? Yes. The cause of that is irrelevant, and would be as silly as discussing if your partner manipulated you to cause an orgasm, and if it was justified.

[Benoit]

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After sexytimes I got dressed in the bathroom and told him goodbye. He asked if I wanted his number. I told him no. He asked if I would give him mine... I told him I don't date guys who use PUA tactics. He looked pretty shocked.

Women are such idiots. Reward a guy with sex for using "PUA techniques" then tell him they don't work.

No wonder he looked shocked.

I would be freaked out after the bang if a girl suddenly went cold and kicked me out, but it would be over thoughts of her crying regret rape...

[Roosh]

Jezebel group blog talks about the interview:

http://groupthink.jezebel.com/feminist-a...1699930608

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She initially started this project to give voice to the women who were on the other side of the pickup artist narrative. Eventually Washko found herself becoming a part of that narrative, as Roosh and his fans became aware of her project and made her a topic of discussion in online forums (I’m sure you can guess what that discussion looks like). She decided that her project would be incomplete without an interview of Roosh himself. You can watch the entire 2-hour interview at the link and read a transcript here (A warning- this charming gentleman really, really hates women. The faint of heart should proceed with caution).

Lots of butthurt comments too. This interview is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Grodin]

I have a feeling the author keeps a eye on this thread.

I was impressed with the interview for the most part. The project is novel in concept, trying to bridge between echo-spheres by interacting without a forced agenda, without a "gotcha" approach. However I don't think she completely executed this to her stated intent. The transcript itself was edited, with emphasis added and footnotes added to conflict with Roosh's responses without the opportunity for further dialogue. Subsequent interviews of the artist, and marketing of her project, have been much more geared to an agenda and this seems to betray the project's mission statement.